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(12,608 posts)Stuart G
(38,414 posts)walkingman
(7,593 posts)lastlib
(23,208 posts)you're welcome.
walkingman
(7,593 posts)brooklynite
(94,495 posts)Our democratic institutions may be at risk, but it has definitely not "come".
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)The Rump is fascism; what he desires is fascism. Whether or not he wins and turns the nation completely fascist is up to us.
VOX
(22,976 posts)All three branches of government are currently under one-party rule, and the executive branch has a greater concentration of power (shifting toward authoritarian rule) which it deliberately and doggedly uses to destroy the boundaries of those branches; the end result of which is a chief executive who can pressure the judiciary, or the congress, or law enforcement.
Some common characteristics of fascism include opposition to parliamentary democracy; opposition to political and cultural liberalism; and totalitarian ambitions. The Trump administration has more than signaled its position in these diagnostic areas.
The trappings of fascism are evident on a daily basis: the cult of personality, built around a hollow man with no intellect or scruples; militarism on a grand scale, with the threat of military action (including nuclear weapons); extreme xenophobia, the demonization of immigrants and POC; a flood of private and corporate monies designed to buy favor; and a radical flouting of established law.
Fascism is here. And the longer it is in power, the deeper its roots will sink.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)accept it or do we prevent its creep?
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)lastlib
(23,208 posts)bdamomma
(63,836 posts)base may because they don't know better but we are the MAJORITY, we will not stand for this crap.
sky rot
(43 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)trof
(54,256 posts)It Can't Happen Here is a semi-satirical 1935 political novel by American author Sinclair Lewis,[1] and a 1936 play adapted from the novel by Lewis and John C. Moffitt.[2]
Published during the rise of fascism in Europe, the novel describes the rise of Berzelius "Buzz" Windrip, a politician who defeats Franklin Delano Roosevelt (FDR) and is elected President of the United States, after fomenting fear and promising drastic economic and social reforms while promoting a return to patriotism and "traditional" values.
After his election, Windrip takes complete control of the government and imposes a plutocratic/totalitarian rule with the help of a ruthless paramilitary force, in the manner of Adolf Hitler and the SS. The novel's plot centers on journalist Doremus Jessup's opposition to the new regime and his subsequent struggle against it as part of a liberal rebellion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Can%27t_Happen_Here
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)I envision the Rump as the sole actor who steps away from the chorus in an ancient Greek play. The chorus never gets another separate line for the rest of the play. It's all the Rump and the chorus joining in to add to the Rump's lines. That's not tragedy; that's farce.
murielm99
(30,733 posts)I reread it when Dubya stole the election. It is even more relevant now.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)Paul Ryan, Jason Chaffetz and others have been driving us in this direction for years.
lostnfound
(16,171 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Fascism and I don't get along you see.
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)However, Reagan said:
"If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism."
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ronald-reagan-fascism-liberalism/
Proof that his senility was kicking in during the 1970s.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)quote to Lewis. So here is something strange. Was this the beginning of the "quote"?
In his book, It Cant Happen Here (1935), Sinclair Lewis wrote, When fascism comes to. America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying the cross. https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/07/28/flag/
VOX
(22,976 posts)Its easy to see how the quote is so often attributed to him:
https://english.illinoisstate.edu/sinclairlewis/
From It Can't Happen Here: "But he saw too that in America the struggle was befogged by the fact that the worst Fascists were they who disowned the word 'Fascism' and preached enslavement to Capitalism under the style of Constitutional and Traditional Native American Liberty."
From Gideon Planish: "I just wish people wouldn't quote Lincoln or the Bible, or hang out the flag or the cross, to cover up something that belongs more to the bank-book and the three golden balls."
There was also a play by Sherman Yellen called Strangers in the late 1970s which had a similar quote, but no one, including one of Lewiss biographers, Richard Lingeman, has ever been able to locate the original citation.