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The most profound photo I've seen for a long time.... (Original Post) Heartstrings May 2018 OP
Don't have one of these things CountAllVotes May 2018 #1
Nope that is the users choice. I make sure to put my phone away. I don't mess with it while Kirk Lover May 2018 #3
In-laws came to visit from abroad CountAllVotes May 2018 #42
Looks like everyone's having a great time. WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #2
Not everyone is taking a picture. dhol82 May 2018 #4
It ain't real unless it's on a 'lectronic screen. Mike Rows His Boat May 2018 #6
people see what they want to see in this photo. WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #18
At least they aren't all dragging around big video cameras or DSL cameras with telephoto lenses hlthe2b May 2018 #5
Yes, it is so much more intimate when you only use your phone. dhol82 May 2018 #7
I betcha she has a phone, too LakeArenal May 2018 #8
I've got a flip phone. Comatose Sphagetti May 2018 #9
They won't be supported for long. rickford66 May 2018 #38
I fear you are correct. Comatose Sphagetti May 2018 #46
By staring at celebrities instead of taking pictures of them? oberliner May 2018 #10
Point is... Heartstrings May 2018 #12
smh.. Yes, the Point is.. she's in the Cha May 2018 #47
Smart lady knows how to take a picture. Cracklin Charlie May 2018 #11
I love it. One person is taking in a memory. MineralMan May 2018 #13
When I used to travel in Europe and Mexico, I always just bought postcards instead of taking tblue37 May 2018 #17
Yup. Me, too. I record memories, not video. MineralMan May 2018 #19
I also keep a travel journal with details of the day that I put in a journal Grammy23 May 2018 #26
What a good idea! MineralMan May 2018 #28
I pride myself on having a good memory, especially for minor details. Grammy23 May 2018 #34
Bon Voyage! MineralMan May 2018 #35
My dad would complain about a photo without one of us in it. Hassin Bin Sober May 2018 #45
Why can't they do both. Look then snap? Hassin Bin Sober May 2018 #43
A "young people and there darn technology" thread? Seriously? Tarc May 2018 #14
The dude upfront with his phone has a grey beard not young imo lunasun May 2018 #30
Sweet. lamp_shade May 2018 #15
People don't have celebratory occasions any more--just photo ops. nt tblue37 May 2018 #16
What does it say about the person LakeArenal May 2018 #20
I'm sure they were taking pictures the ENTIRE time too Blue_Adept May 2018 #21
Exactly. KatyMan May 2018 #25
It's because we're in outrage culture mixed with superiority complexes that must be fed Blue_Adept May 2018 #27
Well, I remember a very touching ceremony I attended a few years ago. MineralMan May 2018 #29
Exactly. DangerousRhythm May 2018 #41
This is a wonderful picture..Thank you.. Heartstrings...for posting this. Incredible beyond words!! Stuart G May 2018 #22
You're welcome Stuart G! Heartstrings May 2018 #23
Its insidious LiberalLovinLug May 2018 #24
I attended a phone/ camera / smart watch free music concert in April . No one suffered lunasun May 2018 #31
Remember a story. . . Collimator May 2018 #32
Thanks for that story and your reflections. KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #44
Future generations will remember the backs of phones and cameras instead of actual events. appleannie1943 May 2018 #33
I see that photo as very humorous and so typical of our times lunatica May 2018 #36
Last summer we had an eclipse party. TNNurse May 2018 #37
The thing is, even though phone cameras have improved a lot TexasBushwhacker May 2018 #39
Yes. MissB May 2018 #40
Good point, obviously, but thank the same goodness for those recording the event greyl May 2018 #48

CountAllVotes

(20,867 posts)
1. Don't have one of these things
Mon May 28, 2018, 01:13 PM
May 2018

and don't want one of these things.

They isolate you whether you realize it or not as life goes marching by.



 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
3. Nope that is the users choice. I make sure to put my phone away. I don't mess with it while
Mon May 28, 2018, 01:21 PM
May 2018

walking or in the elevator or out with others. I mute it most of the time.

It has been indispensable this phone....but it's this extreme usage that is quite annoying, but again that is the users choice.

CountAllVotes

(20,867 posts)
42. In-laws came to visit from abroad
Mon May 28, 2018, 08:30 PM
May 2018

The whole time they were here I felt as if I was competing with the phone for their attention. It was rude to say the least.

There is a time and a place for everything IMO.



hlthe2b

(102,128 posts)
5. At least they aren't all dragging around big video cameras or DSL cameras with telephoto lenses
Mon May 28, 2018, 01:23 PM
May 2018

like they did when I was growing up...

I agree the simple experience of "being there" gets lost with all that, but these distractions have been around for some time... Only the technology has changed.

rickford66

(5,521 posts)
38. They won't be supported for long.
Mon May 28, 2018, 04:25 PM
May 2018

I just got rid of my phone and found out some of the features weren't even working, like the backups.

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
12. Point is...
Mon May 28, 2018, 02:10 PM
May 2018

We don't know what she's looking at, could be her grandchild in a parade, but she's enjoying viewing it first hand rather than through a phone.

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
13. I love it. One person is taking in a memory.
Mon May 28, 2018, 02:17 PM
May 2018

The rest are taking pictures. You see it everywhere. Here's a group of tourists at Buckingham Palace. They're seeing the huge palace on little 4-5" screens, when the palace is right there to take in and store in their memories. You can buy beautiful postcards of every major landmark right there, but you're taking a little digital photo of it, instead of actually seeing it. Amazing!

tblue37

(65,227 posts)
17. When I used to travel in Europe and Mexico, I always just bought postcards instead of taking
Mon May 28, 2018, 02:31 PM
May 2018

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pictures of the places I visited. The postcards were much better photos than I could produce, and it was cheapr than having multiple rolls of film developed. The only pics I took were of people I was with.

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
19. Yup. Me, too. I record memories, not video.
Mon May 28, 2018, 02:37 PM
May 2018

I capture experiences, not photos. That way, when I think back on the trip, I have a very clear picture of what I saw and experienced.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
26. I also keep a travel journal with details of the day that I put in a journal
Mon May 28, 2018, 02:57 PM
May 2018

Selected for that trip. Some of the best times I have had is reading our travel journals with my niece. She and our spouses have made many trips together including an Alaskan cruise, NYC. At Christmas, New England for leaf peeping season, Yellowstone and Italy, France, Belgium and Amsterdam. Reading those details brought back memories that had slipped a bit. I included especially good meals we enjoyed, interesting people we met or saw and encounters that we wanted to remember. There was much laughter remembering some of our escapes here in the US and in Europe.

If there was one thing I would tell anyone to do when they travel it is to keep a journal. Just a few notes jotted before bedtime will give you a view of the trip that will be priceless in the years to come.

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
28. What a good idea!
Mon May 28, 2018, 03:00 PM
May 2018

Thanks!

I've been fortunate to have an excellent memory. I can replay almost everything from my life in considerable detail, so I've never kept journals. But, they're an excellent idea and can capture emotions as well as the details of an experience.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
34. I pride myself on having a good memory, especially for minor details.
Mon May 28, 2018, 03:15 PM
May 2018

But I was surprised at some of the details I had forgotten. We laughed until tears ran down our faces as we read my impression of trying to cross a busy street in Florence, Italy. Those memories are precious and made even richer by reading my impressions at the time. The food descriptions are another fun thing to recall, especially the European trips that were filled with new edible experiences. The four of us (my niece, her husband, my husband and moi) have a river cruise scheduled in France in October and you can be sure a travel journal will be tucked in my carry-on!

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,311 posts)
45. My dad would complain about a photo without one of us in it.
Mon May 28, 2018, 08:36 PM
May 2018

He would say why not just buy a postcard?

LakeArenal

(28,803 posts)
20. What does it say about the person
Mon May 28, 2018, 02:40 PM
May 2018

Taking pictures of people taking pictures? Then gets it out there as a judgement on people taking pictures?

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
21. I'm sure they were taking pictures the ENTIRE time too
Mon May 28, 2018, 02:42 PM
May 2018

I love "back in my day" posts.

You can be in the moment 99% of the time but get a picture snapped of you when you're capturing a moment yourself? And you're the poster child for what's wrong with society.

KatyMan

(4,178 posts)
25. Exactly.
Mon May 28, 2018, 02:56 PM
May 2018

Why can't people enjoy an event in their own way? What if it's a float in a parade with their kids on it? Why be so judgemental?

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
27. It's because we're in outrage culture mixed with superiority complexes that must be fed
Mon May 28, 2018, 02:59 PM
May 2018

Having been involved with online stuff since the 80's on the old BBS system (110 baud!) I've seen so much online culture that this was its arc to be sure. And it's reminding me why I'm pulling further and further away from it all.

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
29. Well, I remember a very touching ceremony I attended a few years ago.
Mon May 28, 2018, 03:05 PM
May 2018

It was the transfer of a samurai sword taken by a US soldier after WWII. The ceremony returned the sword to the original owner's family. I attended it because it was such a touching story, and the local newspaper wrote about it. So I went to the ceremony.

Sadly, I did not get to see the actual transfer. A woman in the row of seats ahead of me was holding up an iPad, right in front of my field of vision, as she recorded what happened as a video. Her iPad completely blocked my view of the ceremony.

So, I did not get to enjoy the event, because someone else was selfishly recording it. How about that? Sometimes things are not just about what one person wants. Life is funny that way.

DangerousRhythm

(2,916 posts)
41. Exactly.
Mon May 28, 2018, 08:13 PM
May 2018

I hate when people try to tell me how I should enjoy something. I like taking pictures. "Be in the moment" is a stupid phrase I'm beyond tired of hearing because I AM in the moment and capturing something which I love or which I am enjoying. My memory isn't the best sometimes and a photo helps bring those feelings back.

I especially notice this being said about concerts. Well, I can tell you that about 95% of the time I'm behind someone who's very tall and all I have from my own eyes is a view of their armpits or their hats, being barely 5' tall. It's hard to "be in the moment" when you can't even see what's happening on the stage. I can get great photos, though, and sometimes I actually can see what's happening through other people's cameras and I appreciate them. I've been into photography since the 80s and it brings me endless enjoyment to be able to capture something fleeting.

Just let people enjoy things the way THEY want to enjoy it. It doesn't cost anything to keep out of people's business.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
24. Its insidious
Mon May 28, 2018, 02:54 PM
May 2018

I remember being out and there was some gorgeous scene in front of me and I reached in my pocket and to my shock and horror, I realized I had forgotten to bring my iphone! But then as I had to give up on the idea of recording the image for later, and was FORCED to have to take it in where it was only me and the scene, I remember how I became self aware of how much I was getting out of the beauty in front of me in stead of fumbling for my camera.

Face it, how much time is actually spent later fawning over the picture one takes days later? We seem to think we can not only capture the image, but the whole experience, and save it for later. When all you have is one chance to actually experience it completely.

There are some moments that we should record for posterity. But everyone should pause in moments like this to choose what they really want. A great experience or try and be an amateur photographer, and archivist that will give you only a small percent of the feeling and emotion and experience of simply living the moment.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
31. I attended a phone/ camera / smart watch free music concert in April . No one suffered
Mon May 28, 2018, 03:13 PM
May 2018

Except one Yondr pouch laying on the floor I saw at the end
someone had cut it open anyway

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/how-yondr-is-creating-phone-free-concerts-w517177
As comedian Dave Chappelle, a Yondr enthusiast recently told an audience, "You all need a break from that shit.
His show is also ph free
Yondr
Yondr's pouches, used by Jack White, Haim, Chris Rock and more. Yondr
Yondr provides its own staff for events. Justin Timberlake recently used it for an album-listening party, and promoters who'd never heard of Yondr last year are starting to accept it as a requirement for working with certain artists. "You're not hiring the coat-checker to do it," says Andy Cirzan, a vice president for Chicago's Jam Productions. "This is a tried-and-true method from a company that has thought it through." Dugoni, who also works with schools to wean students away from intensive phone use, repeats the word "experience" to describe device-free concerts.

Collimator

(1,639 posts)
32. Remember a story. . .
Mon May 28, 2018, 03:14 PM
May 2018

. . . about a bunch of people situated in a premo sweet suite at a football stadium. The adults were watching the game playing out through the window of their suite. The kids had their backs turned and were watching the game on the TV screen on the back wall.

Why the screen was even there is a question. But since there was a large spread of food at the back of the seating box, I quess it would be easier to look up at a screen while putting snacks on a plate if you suddenly heard cheering than to whip your head around and risk flinging steamed shrimp or whatever as you turned to catch a play.

BTW, no one is exactly heaping stern judgment upon those choosing to take pictures. The OP is just making a point. Photos and video of a given occasion can certainly be nice and useful. But living in the moment-- truly being immersed in a sensory experience is what it means to be alive.

I have felt more fully alive mourning a friend at the top of my lungs in private then many people whose focus is divided between recording something to show others rather than feeling it to the depths of their being when it is really happening.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
44. Thanks for that story and your reflections.
Mon May 28, 2018, 08:36 PM
May 2018

I relate entirely to what you said about mourning and had similar overwhelming experiences alone out in the wild with nature.

In my years of travel, I typically just took a few key shots with a small pocket camera - places like the Oregon coast and the high desert in Wyoming. Years later, those serve as memory triggers to help my old mind recall the good stuff, and bring a few tears as well.

.........

appleannie1943

(1,303 posts)
33. Future generations will remember the backs of phones and cameras instead of actual events.
Mon May 28, 2018, 03:15 PM
May 2018

She is seeing the whole thing, they are seeing a snapshot.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
36. I see that photo as very humorous and so typical of our times
Mon May 28, 2018, 03:19 PM
May 2018

It’s a perfect catch of our transitional times.

I like it very much. It’s sweet.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
37. Last summer we had an eclipse party.
Mon May 28, 2018, 03:23 PM
May 2018

I took some photos of our friends, but during the event I put the camera down and watched and felt and enjoyed.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,144 posts)
39. The thing is, even though phone cameras have improved a lot
Mon May 28, 2018, 05:17 PM
May 2018

over the last few years, the pictures people take with them at events like this are usually shitty. As long as I have a memory, I'll be that old lady. I would like to switch back to a flip phone, but I need the GPS on my smart phone.

MissB

(15,803 posts)
40. Yes.
Mon May 28, 2018, 05:24 PM
May 2018

My kid took a picture last week of people taking pictures of the Mona Lisa. Yeah, he also got a picture of the Mona Lisa but the subject of the photo of people taking pictures.

Like this one, it reminded me of people just relying on their phones rather than engaging in the works around them.

As I sit here typing in my phone.....

greyl

(22,990 posts)
48. Good point, obviously, but thank the same goodness for those recording the event
Tue May 29, 2018, 01:39 AM
May 2018

so those who weren't there might witness it later.

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