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Our First Lady is MIA (Original Post) dlk May 2018 OP
She is devoting more time to her pizza parlor child sex ring, per Alex jones dameatball May 2018 #1
She'll come back as Melanie Dennison. Solly Mack May 2018 #2
++++ The Polack MSgt May 2018 #101
Give the money to his victims. Solly Mack May 2018 #110
Or Melanija Knavs? George II May 2018 #107
Nah. She was born that. Solly Mack May 2018 #109
Our third lady? pwb May 2018 #3
Fourth lady. You forgot Ivanka. Still In Wisconsin May 2018 #12
Oh, I really hadn't thought of that. I am no fan of hers, dewsgirl May 2018 #4
A spouse can't be compelled to testify... dawg day May 2018 #72
its a blessing. nt msongs May 2018 #5
My wife thinks she had a breakdown.... Xolodno May 2018 #6
Barron looks a lot like his father..... ProudMNDemocrat May 2018 #7
I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up doing what Adolf Hitler's relatives did.... Xolodno May 2018 #11
I saw a documentary today about Hitler's relatives and there are two of them who live on Long Island kimbutgar May 2018 #53
I'd be surprised if they are registered voters. Xolodno May 2018 #59
We probably saw the same documentary kimbutgar May 2018 #61
I read that the ones left decided not to have any children treestar May 2018 #86
My Spouse the same. Wellstone ruled May 2018 #34
Hardly dflprincess May 2018 #71
I believe your wife is right about that. Nt raccoon May 2018 #85
She's not missing - she's back in New York FakeNoose May 2018 #8
Maybe she's not ready for the public eye. Mz Pip May 2018 #9
Where's Mark Sanford? no_hypocrisy May 2018 #10
She could be hiking kskiska May 2018 #44
In those stilletos she likes to wear? Not likely! csziggy May 2018 #66
All of the Melania threads are B2G May 2018 #13
I think we can wonder where she is, though... hlthe2b May 2018 #14
She also pushed birtherism on tv and said her shitty husband was the victim JI7 May 2018 #16
Please don't pretend it hasn't gone way beyond B2G May 2018 #17
From some, not all... hlthe2b May 2018 #24
She chose to marry him. davsand May 2018 #30
Some pretend she never bullied with her birther conspiracy JI7 May 2018 #69
Yep. I have very little sympathy. Laffy Kat May 2018 #54
And imagine the media if it were Michelle Obama treestar May 2018 #87
If it was Michelle you would see a VASTLY different take on it all Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #113
No. What her fucked up husband does and her pushing birtherism is bullying JI7 May 2018 #15
Oh my BannonsLiver May 2018 #21
Deserves every word. nt Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #38
Yep Tipperary May 2018 #60
Melania peddled the racist birther meme and defended her husband's NYC Liberal May 2018 #63
It's not criticism. B2G May 2018 #64
Not as disgusting as pushing racist bigoted birther conspiracy while defending bullying by trump JI7 May 2018 #68
she is a Birther and that is bullying at its finest. stonecutter357 May 2018 #104
What did he do with the body? nt Lucky Luciano May 2018 #18
I have no doubt he has threatened to have her done in if she tries to embarrass him by leaving. n/t Judi Lynn May 2018 #41
Maybe I missed it, but do we know grumpyduck May 2018 #19
50 ways to leave your lover. R B Garr May 2018 #20
She gotta new rack Jack NightWatcher May 2018 #22
Love it! R B Garr May 2018 #23
Oh my! Ilsa May 2018 #26
A kidney punch from Butt-munch pamela May 2018 #43
Hey, Guys! MyOwnPeace May 2018 #55
My eyes are running!! 😂 sprinkleeninow May 2018 #83
AAAAHHHH! janx May 2018 #108
OPs like this remind me ... NanceGreggs May 2018 #25
Well, I am a little curious if this might be the first R B Garr May 2018 #28
If there was a WH divorce ... NanceGreggs May 2018 #36
OK, I haven't seen those about physical abuse, so R B Garr May 2018 #56
The OP in its entirety ... NanceGreggs May 2018 #74
Yes! I was going to post a second comment to you that R B Garr May 2018 #78
Actually, if she's the VICTIM of domestic abuse... dawg day May 2018 #73
And who said ... NanceGreggs May 2018 #77
Ivana said she was, so it is a possibility treestar May 2018 #88
Thank you. Tipperary May 2018 #97
Hi Nance! You are right. n/t rzemanfl May 2018 #29
Thanks, Nance Hekate May 2018 #47
Just imagine what Pukes would be saying MoonRiver May 2018 #27
The same things DU is saying. B2G May 2018 #35
This is mild compared to what they'd say - in fact, DID say - about Michelle EffieBlack May 2018 #80
and which certain posters never had a problem with JI7 May 2018 #81
Boom. Tipperary May 2018 #102
+1 treestar May 2018 #89
She never wanted the job in the first place. She had a private life in NY with friends she lunched politicaljunkie41910 May 2018 #31
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #40
I notice it was "a spokeswoman" who said this Hekate May 2018 #48
Is it really worth an argument? nt Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #49
For the record, that was my conclusion that she never wanted the job in the first place, so I politicaljunkie41910 May 2018 #50
If someone were to ask her today Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #51
Oh, she didn't want to be first lady dawg day May 2018 #75
Has she done any "work" as FLOTUS? treestar May 2018 #91
Their own floors? treestar May 2018 #90
lost Snellius May 2018 #32
Well, he hasn't put her face on a milk carton yet. nt Ilsa May 2018 #62
There's no reason to think he's worried. dawg day May 2018 #76
Probably reengineered into the Stepford FLOTUS. democratisphere May 2018 #33
Thread winner. lindysalsagal May 2018 #39
Slovenian Broken English and "dis and dat" do not compute. democratisphere May 2018 #45
Kick this one. Kingofalldems May 2018 #37
And the first that that came to my mind reading the OP headline... Guilded Lilly May 2018 #42
Given that she is very concerned Turbineguy May 2018 #46
Yeah, she is likely just resting treestar May 2018 #92
Honestly do not care. onecaliberal May 2018 #52
Ever since he spelled her name Melanie in a tweet mountain grammy May 2018 #57
More like missing in inaction. Therefore nobody really cares. Freethinker65 May 2018 #58
MIA tazkcmo May 2018 #65
well then, maybe she can spring into action... lame54 May 2018 #67
This just fuels my (unfounded) suspicions that the "work" she had done dflprincess May 2018 #70
No news yet? UCmeNdc May 2018 #79
She was not elected to any position Nonhlanhla May 2018 #82
I don't condone mere rumor-mongering, but she is receving substantial $$ from taxpayers... hlthe2b May 2018 #94
What money does she get? Nonhlanhla May 2018 #95
All expenses, including incredible travel, security, staff, media PR, unlimited first class health hlthe2b May 2018 #96
Fair enough Nonhlanhla May 2018 #98
She's getting tangible benefits in lieu of salary, but I'm fine if she doesn't want to do hlthe2b May 2018 #99
I agree with that Nonhlanhla May 2018 #100
Expressing my deep interest MFM008 May 2018 #84
We have a first lady? Who knew? Demsrule86 May 2018 #93
Two things keep popping into this old head Soxfan58 May 2018 #103
being the coward trump is heaven05 May 2018 #105
Our hosebag is missing. gibraltar72 May 2018 #106
This is disturbing Gothmog May 2018 #111
Where in the World is....? Gothmog May 2018 #112

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
4. Oh, I really hadn't thought of that. I am no fan of hers,
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:06 PM
May 2018

But at times, I do feel for her. I believe she loves their son
and has been very unhappy with this whole situation. Don't get me wrong, she is likely involved in way more than we even know. I read on Twitter, from a pretty reliable source she is in New York and we will be paying for her security, just like before.
I know this is just a wish, I hope somehow Mueller can somehow get to her. (I realize this is highly unlikely) A girl can dream.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
6. My wife thinks she had a breakdown....
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:06 PM
May 2018

...and the whole "kidney" thing is bullshit. To note, she was hospitalized shortly after it was confirmed that Trump reimbursed Cohen over the Stormy Daniels issue by Giuliani. My money is on that she is being heavily sedated.

She knows they are not coming out of this unscathed. Trump will be bankrupt after this and they will have nothing. Her son will have to live with the stigma of the "Trump" name. The only people who don't seem to understand this is Trump, Don jr., Ivana and her husband. And we already know that other foreign governments consider Kushner "naive", so...

My hope, she isn't on suicide watch.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,780 posts)
7. Barron looks a lot like his father.....
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:10 PM
May 2018


I feel sorry for him that he has to be reminded who his father is.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
11. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up doing what Adolf Hitler's relatives did....
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:20 PM
May 2018

...changed the name, country and just dove off into obscurity.

Granted Trump is no Hitler, as of this time of writing, but no one has gone from being a TV Star to universally despised by over half the country. You can be despised and forgotten, however, when your fathers name is going to be enshrined in history for the worse...you can't out run that.

kimbutgar

(21,103 posts)
53. I saw a documentary today about Hitler's relatives and there are two of them who live on Long Island
Mon May 28, 2018, 08:45 PM
May 2018

NY. Their father was Hitler’s nephew. I wonder if they are twitler supporters?

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
59. I'd be surprised if they are registered voters.
Mon May 28, 2018, 09:17 PM
May 2018

If I were trying to run away from a legacy of horrid proportions, I'd do everything to be inconspicuous.

Going to bet we saw the same documentary, just at different times. Even their close friends did not know the family "secret". And the irony, they are the only line to procreate in the family....and none of them have children, did they decide to? or was it was just a weird coincidence? But the irony, Adolf Hitler placed value on procreating, such as loosening the sex laws in Germany, getting angered at US immigration laws as it promoted taking the "best" genetic citizens. And yet, his family line is going to vanish. But is that surprising? It's his policies that resulted in his own sister being part of the "final solution".

treestar

(82,383 posts)
86. I read that the ones left decided not to have any children
Tue May 29, 2018, 07:16 AM
May 2018

And it really isn't their fault. And they are descended from Hitler's siblings. Hitler had no descendants.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
71. Hardly
Mon May 28, 2018, 11:00 PM
May 2018

She may be irate that his affair has been so public but she knew what he was when she married him.

The only thing that might make her have a breakdown is the fear of a RICO investigation resulting into all those assets being forfeited. Then she'll have to deal with the thought that she sold herself for nothing.

Mz Pip

(27,434 posts)
9. Maybe she's not ready for the public eye.
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:19 PM
May 2018

It takes awhile to plastic surgery to settle down. Just speculating here. Donald has a habit of doing trade ins for newer models.

hlthe2b

(102,190 posts)
14. I think we can wonder where she is, though...
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:30 PM
May 2018

She may not have run, nor won office in her own right, maybe never even wanted to be first lady, but she did assist Trump's campaign and DOES personally benefit from her position (and at considerable taxpayer expense).

So, I'm not sure how merely wondering what happened to her is "internet bullying at its finest"...

JI7

(89,244 posts)
16. She also pushed birtherism on tv and said her shitty husband was the victim
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:34 PM
May 2018

When sexual sexual assault allegations came out.

davsand

(13,421 posts)
30. She chose to marry him.
Mon May 28, 2018, 07:04 PM
May 2018

She may not have wanted him to run for President, but she MARRIED him before that event. (Not sure if he was divorced from the prior wife when Melanoma started dating him, and really don't care, but being the mistress is a bad look, IMO.) In any event, I doubt that she was dragged unwilling to the altar, and that makes all the difference.

Baron is a child. He should be off limits. Melanoma is a fully grown woman with a mouth and two feet in good working order. She deserves every bit of ridicule she gets.

You lay down with a POS you are gonna get up stinking too.






Laura

Laffy Kat

(16,376 posts)
54. Yep. I have very little sympathy.
Mon May 28, 2018, 08:48 PM
May 2018

I may change my tune if she would publicly denounce her husband and divorce him.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
113. If it was Michelle you would see a VASTLY different take on it all
Wed May 30, 2018, 06:48 PM
May 2018

Hypocrisy about cons is everywhere.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
63. Melania peddled the racist birther meme and defended her husband's
Mon May 28, 2018, 09:31 PM
May 2018

bragging about assaulting women.

She deserves every bit of criticism she gets.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
68. Not as disgusting as pushing racist bigoted birther conspiracy while defending bullying by trump
Mon May 28, 2018, 10:43 PM
May 2018

grumpyduck

(6,231 posts)
19. Maybe I missed it, but do we know
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:40 PM
May 2018

for a fact that she was indeed hospitalized?

Although I totally feel that it's none of my business, it did occur to me that she might have had a breakdown or something similar. The timing just ddn't add up to anything else.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
20. 50 ways to leave your lover.
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:40 PM
May 2018

She slipped out the back, Jack.

Made a new plan, Stan.

That porn actress stuff has to be humiliating and shows no sign of letting up.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
26. Oh my!
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:59 PM
May 2018


I had figured she Stormy-sized her rack.

And I wonder if some of her previous work needed some maintenance?

She talked trash and lies about Obamas and HRC. She's fair game. She should have divorced him before he became the Oaf of Office.

MyOwnPeace

(16,923 posts)
55. Hey, Guys!
Mon May 28, 2018, 08:52 PM
May 2018

RB, you came up with the idea - great stuff!

But NightWatcher, you hit that one out of the park!!!!

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
25. OPs like this remind me ...
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:55 PM
May 2018

... that it isn't just the RW that promotes bullshit speculation as something worthy of discussion.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
28. Well, I am a little curious if this might be the first
Mon May 28, 2018, 07:00 PM
May 2018

White House divorce. The spectacle would be worth it. How many First Ladies have been dragged through this public humiliation before. It’s only natural to wonder how much she’ll endure.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
36. If there was a WH divorce ...
Mon May 28, 2018, 07:29 PM
May 2018

... it would be our business because it would have an impact on Trump's thinking (or what passes for thought).

However, speculating that Melania might be laying low because she was physically abused is the kind of thing one expects from FOX-News:

"No one has seen Michelle Obama for weeks - let's hope she isn't off selling crack somewhere."

"No one has seen Bill Clinton lately - let's hope he's not shacked-up with some 11-year-old girl."




R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
56. OK, I haven't seen those about physical abuse, so
Mon May 28, 2018, 08:53 PM
May 2018

I see what you mean by that. Phone reading a lot and I can’t even see thread authors or responses in sequence, so I scroll through quickly. Probably why I missed them.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
74. The OP in its entirety ...
Mon May 28, 2018, 11:21 PM
May 2018
"Our First Lady is MIA

Let's hope Don the Con didn't beat the crap out of her during one of his storied rage attacks and she is in hiding until the bruises heal."


R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
78. Yes! I was going to post a second comment to you that
Tue May 29, 2018, 12:06 AM
May 2018

I did see that OP but glossed over it because there have been multiple OPs about it and I lost track and honestly, I didn’t take it seriously. I kind of took that printed comment to be a satire. It’s not a good thing to make a joke about, though. You made some valid points about it.

Still am looking for divorce headlines, though! She surely must be eyeing the door.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
77. And who said ...
Mon May 28, 2018, 11:33 PM
May 2018

... she was ever the victim of abuse?

This is turning into "some people are saying" bullshit - and equally undeserving of discussion.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
88. Ivana said she was, so it is a possibility
Tue May 29, 2018, 07:21 AM
May 2018

and we don't know what the Dotard is like behind closed doors, but he is bad enough in public. It is speculation but not out of the realm of the possible.

But most likely is she is just taking a break after the surgery.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
27. Just imagine what Pukes would be saying
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:59 PM
May 2018

Last edited Tue May 29, 2018, 07:52 AM - Edit history (1)

If Michelle Obama has gone missing for more than two weeks.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
31. She never wanted the job in the first place. She had a private life in NY with friends she lunched
Mon May 28, 2018, 07:06 PM
May 2018

with and shopped with everyday, and no one detailing her and protecting her. I read this in a magazine article prior to the election. The article talked about what her average day was like. She dropped her son off and picked him up from school every day. School was within walking distance. Afterwards she shopped, had her hair done, or a massage for facial. She had lunch out with her girlfriends everyday. Their home in Trump Towers consisted of the top three floors of Trump Towers. She had her own floor. Trump had his own floor (which is what Stormie Daniels said about him sneaking her into his bedroom), and Barron had his own floor. When he sneaked Daniels into his bedroom, she asked him what about his wife, what if she caught them? He told Daniels that his wife had her own floor and never came on his floor. These people have to be the loneliest people in the world though I have no empathy for any of them except the young son Barron. Her parents live in a condo near theirs though the article didn't say it was in Trump Tower. She obviously despises Trump and wants to spend as little time near him as possible. She also has her own suite in the White House away from him.

As I recall reading when the Obamas were in the White House, an article that described the family quarters in there. Barrack and Michelle shared a bedroom suite on one side of the floor. The girls had separate bedrooms across the Living Room area on the other side of the floor. The Living Room area between the two sides of the family quarters floor was a vast open living room space that was used for greeting personal friends and guests when they had functions at the White House. Michelle's Mother had a room on the floor above them. Also I recall during the Clinton administration, Hillary had converted one of the rooms on the family quarters floor into a kitchen so that they could have a place for "normal" family meals to sit and converse about their day with their daughter. I don't know if the Obama's kept that room as a kitchen when they moved in or converted it back to whatever purpose it served before the Clinton's moved in.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,105 posts)
40. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Mon May 28, 2018, 08:13 PM
May 2018

First lady Melania Trump on Monday ripped a report in which a longtime friend told Vanity Fair that she didn’t want to be the first lady “come hell or high water.”

“Once again part of the liberal media, this time Vanity Fair, has written a story riddled with unnamed sources and false assertions. As a magazine tailored to women it is shameful that they continue to write salacious and false stories meant to demean Mrs. Trump, rather than focus on her positive work as First Lady as a supportive wife and mother,” a spokeswoman for Trump said in a statement to CNN.

“As has been stated on the record many times before, she is honored by her role,” the spokeswoman added.

Chris Matthews is just now airing an excerpt of an interview with trump in 1999, and Chris asks Melania, who's in the audience, to stand up, and answer just one question - would she want to be First Lady - and she said yes.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
50. For the record, that was my conclusion that she never wanted the job in the first place, so I
Mon May 28, 2018, 08:41 PM
May 2018

want to clear that up. That was my opinion and I concluded that based on all the things that they said in the article, that I stated above. That she had friends who she shopped with and lunched with everyday, and that her parents had a condo nearby, and she could walk her son to and from school every day. The article never asked her if she wanted to be first lady probably because no one thought he was a serious candidate and was going to win. The article just talked about her life in New York, her interests, and living in Trump Towers. When he won and she didn't come to Wash DC after he was inaugurated and he said that she would relocate after school ended in June, I recalled that article, which by then had been more than a year ago when I read it at a nail shop and it was about 6 months old even then. I just didn't believe she would ever move to Washington since the focus of that article seemed to focus on how much she loved her life in New York.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,105 posts)
51. If someone were to ask her today
Mon May 28, 2018, 08:43 PM
May 2018

and she HAD to tell the truth, I truly believe she would say HELL NO. I never wanted this.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
75. Oh, she didn't want to be first lady
Mon May 28, 2018, 11:25 PM
May 2018

Why would she? She was already supposedly rich, didn't have to work. It's not like moving to the White House would have impressed her. And it's not like she has ever shown any dedication to the common good, so she would hardly be thinking, Oh, good, I'll be able to do more work on my social mission.

It's been widely reported that she cried when he won, along, of course, with most of the world, only in her case, it was entirely selfish, no doubt. She had what passed for a good life (though it sounds really dire to me), and this can be no fun at all. I bet you she's had to spend more time with that horrible husband than ever before, and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
76. There's no reason to think he's worried.
Mon May 28, 2018, 11:27 PM
May 2018

Anyone know where the child is? Would school be over for him already?

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
33. Probably reengineered into the Stepford FLOTUS.
Mon May 28, 2018, 07:07 PM
May 2018

Most likely still working on the programmed responses.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
42. And the first that that came to my mind reading the OP headline...
Mon May 28, 2018, 08:17 PM
May 2018

Michelle is MIA??

Still can’t get over it.

Turbineguy

(37,312 posts)
46. Given that she is very concerned
Mon May 28, 2018, 08:32 PM
May 2018

about her appearance, she may not want to be seen until she feels completely up to it. Most of us are OK with, "yeah, this was how I looked when I left the hospital!", but she may not be.

On the other hand.....

Freethinker65

(10,008 posts)
58. More like missing in inaction. Therefore nobody really cares.
Mon May 28, 2018, 09:07 PM
May 2018

Unless she is found to be doing to something nefarious, this is really of no concern.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
70. This just fuels my (unfounded) suspicions that the "work" she had done
Mon May 28, 2018, 10:57 PM
May 2018

had nothing to do with her kidney.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
82. She was not elected to any position
Tue May 29, 2018, 12:53 AM
May 2018

I'm not a fan - I think she is a pretty empty person who made her choices in life and has to live with it. But we don't really have the right to expect her to show herself in public. She is likely either recovering from the kidney surgery, or simply in hiding due to the scandals around her husband. This country has a long history of expecting the spouse of the president to fulfill a certain role, even giving them the title of "First Lady." This might have made sense when women's lives were little more than extensions of their husbands'. But in an age of feminism and female presidential candidates, the very concept of "First Lady" is antiquated. Melania does not exactly strike me as a feminist, but still, she was not elected to anything, so let her hide. I'm sure she is waiting with baited breath to file those divorce papers.

hlthe2b

(102,190 posts)
94. I don't condone mere rumor-mongering, but she is receving substantial $$ from taxpayers...
Tue May 29, 2018, 07:31 AM
May 2018

Apparently, as early as 1999, just prior to marrying Trump, she DID say she would welcome becoming First Lady. So, this didn't come out of the "blue"... She DID work to elect her husband, including her embrace/dissemination of some pretty ugly Trump lies (e.g., birtherism) and promotion of his policies--so she IS a political figure, unlike her minor son.

It is a difficult balance between privacy and public right to know, but her basic whereabouts, I think is not so invasive as to expect. There are now few expectations of a first lady--as, I think there should be, but unless she wants to cede the title (and the substantial publicly-funded benefits that confers), then there is a minimum of public interaction/information sharing that that DOES warrant.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
95. What money does she get?
Tue May 29, 2018, 09:27 AM
May 2018

I agree that she played a role in getting her husband elected, and that she echoed his BS, but why do you want to see her, especially since she is currently likely in recovery from surgery? She adds nothing positive, so let her hide.

hlthe2b

(102,190 posts)
96. All expenses, including incredible travel, security, staff, media PR, unlimited first class health
Tue May 29, 2018, 09:33 AM
May 2018

care, entertaining allowance, decorating allowance and on and on and on--her every whim and desire attended to--not to mention the gifted or highly discounted designer clothing she gets from designer houses solely because of her position.

Really? DId you not KNOW that? If she wants to eliminate her title and go private, fine, but she should reap only the security benefit that other family members get.

I love how Americans go nuts over the Royal Family and their living lavish lifestyles off the people. Yet, the Royals AT LEAST do very significant public good and appearances on behalf of the country's nonpartisan interests. Yet, we should expect NOTHING from our "Melania Trump" version of "Royalty"?

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
98. Fair enough
Tue May 29, 2018, 09:54 AM
May 2018

I know she gets those things. But she does not get paid a salary, and that is because " "First Lady" is not a real job. It is just a traditional expectation and a patriarchal one at that. I get healthcare through my spouse's employer but I'm not expected to do some work for them. Get rid of the expectations for the fake First Lady job and she won't need PR people. Security is there to protect the president's family from US, so to expect a song and dance in return is absurd. Household expenses are paid by the president.

I could not care less what Melaniadoes - I have too little respect for her - but I've always found the idea of a woman being an extension of her husband 's career, to be patriarchal and absurd. Do you think Bill Clinton would have stepped into the traditional First Lady role if Hillary had won? Or is it only women who are defined by their spouse's job?

hlthe2b

(102,190 posts)
99. She's getting tangible benefits in lieu of salary, but I'm fine if she doesn't want to do
Tue May 29, 2018, 10:01 AM
May 2018

ANYTHING but live her own life in as private a way as possible... But all the benefits associated with being a ACTIVE FIRST LADY should go away. She can't have it both ways. No trading off the position--no having a press/PR person to call up Vogue for a cover spread or some designer to comp her expensive clothing BECAUSE she is First Lady.

And, yes, had Bill Clinton become the "First Gentleman" or whatever we might call it, he would not get those benefits either, unless he chose to become an extension of our National interests in representing our Nation internationally and fostering projects beneficial to the American people on behalf of the Nation. My guess is that he would have embraced the latter, enthusiastically and gladly.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
100. I agree with that
Tue May 29, 2018, 10:54 AM
May 2018

I really find the concept of a First Lady to be anachronistic. I don't know of any other country who has this kind of title for the president or prime minister's spouse (although American news sources routinely refer to other countries' presidential spouses with this title). I just think it is weird.

Soxfan58

(3,479 posts)
103. Two things keep popping into this old head
Tue May 29, 2018, 11:06 AM
May 2018

Nervous breakdown ( who could blame her) or abortion. But the bruises healing, l keep picturing her in the big sun glasses during the time of the hurricaines. My wife suggested that she might be covering bruises back then. Whatever it is, I bet its his fault.

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heaven05

(18,124 posts)
105. being the coward trump is
Tue May 29, 2018, 11:38 AM
May 2018

I bet he hurt her in some manner for some perceived slight to his boyhood. She is not allowed to be seen until she completely heals.

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