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Gothmog

(145,046 posts)
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:51 PM May 2018

America's Presidents, Ranked

Trump is making Buchanan look competent https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/05/americas-presidents-ranked/

There’s a new poll of presidential experts out that ranks our nation’s chief executives, and Lincoln leads the list with an average rating of 95.03 out of 100. William Henry Harrison got a score of 19.02. I decided to rescale the whole thing going from 0 to 100, with Lincoln on top at Harrison at zero, since, let’s face it, Harrison is sort of zero by definition, right? Besides, I think it also more accurately represents the bottom of the range too.

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America's Presidents, Ranked (Original Post) Gothmog May 2018 OP
Trump does not do well even with conservatives Gothmog May 2018 #1
Sing it with me: "Don't know what you've got till it's gone ..." muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #4
I just noticed - conservatives ranked GW Bush above Kennedy??? muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #6
They are crazy Gothmog May 2018 #7
The Shitler ain't gonna like this! inanna May 2018 #2
LOL, and I bet t-rump talks to himself via mirror of how Iliyah May 2018 #3
History is not going to remember Trump fondly. bearsfootball516 May 2018 #5
It hardly seems fair to rank W. H. Harrison and James A. Garfield at all Glorfindel May 2018 #8
All in all rock May 2018 #9

Gothmog

(145,046 posts)
1. Trump does not do well even with conservatives
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:55 PM
May 2018

This from the study https://sps.boisestate.edu/politicalscience/files/2018/02/Greatness.pdf

The rankings generated by Republicans and those who self-identified as eitherc onservative or somewhat conservative had greater differences from the overall list, however. Republicans were significantly less favorable to Barack Obama, rating him 16th, as well as to Lyndon Johnson (19th), James Madison (22nd), John F. Kennedy (24th), and Jimmy Carter (32nd). They were considerably more favorably disposed to William McKinley (9th), George H.W. Bush (11th), James Polk (13th), William Howard Taft (14th), Calvin Coolidge (21st), George W. Bush (23rd), Herbert Hoover (30th), and Martin Van Buren (33rd). Self-identified conservatives and somewhat conservatives are largely the same population and thus generally consistent with the Republican pattern, though that group is also unfavorably disposed to Woodrow Wilson, dropping him from 12th place to 21st , and Ulysses S. Grant (down to 27th), but more favorable to James Monroe, moving him up from 18th overall to 12th. Both groups are somewhat more favorable, though not overwhelmingly so, to Donald Trump, ranking him 40th in each case, compared to the overall ranking of 44th.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,294 posts)
4. Sing it with me: "Don't know what you've got till it's gone ..."
Tue May 29, 2018, 03:00 PM
May 2018
After these first seven places, however, there are several significant changes from 2014. Barack Obama now occupies the 8th slot (71.13), up ten places from 2014.

bearsfootball516

(6,374 posts)
5. History is not going to remember Trump fondly.
Tue May 29, 2018, 03:01 PM
May 2018

When it's all said and done, there won't be a single credible political ranking that doesn't have him in the bottom 3 or 5.

Glorfindel

(9,725 posts)
8. It hardly seems fair to rank W. H. Harrison and James A. Garfield at all
Tue May 29, 2018, 03:48 PM
May 2018

They were both in office for such a short time, and Garfield spent most of his time in office dying, slowly and excruciatingly. Having said that, the list looks pretty good to me, though I'd rate Reagan much lower. Maybe swap places with Reagan and Polk. Thanks for a very interesting post, Gothmog!

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