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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue May 29, 2018, 05:32 PM May 2018

Here's the game Kellyanne Conway and the Trump team are playing on 'collusion'

By Aaron Blake
May 29 at 2:29 PM



Rudolph W. Giuliani went on TV and blurted out the Trump team's Russia investigation strategy this weekend.

“It is for public opinion,” Giuliani said on CNN, “because, eventually, the decision here is going to be impeach/not impeach. Members of Congress, Democrat and Republican, are going to be informed a lot by their constituents. So, our jury is the American — as it should be — is the American people.”

Everything the Trump team does should be viewed through this prism. And it's increasingly clear that the whole thing is aimed at casting doubt not just on any actual crimes that may have been committed but also on the validity of the investigation that uncovered them in the first place.

Case in point is the strategy to call into question the entire “collusion” premise.

White House counselor Kellyanne Conway on Tuesday became the latest to argue that “collusion” isn't really, technically, a thing. “So much is happening that has nothing to do with this phony-baloney talking about the 2016 election,” Conway told Fox News. “Every time people talk about this phony Russia collusion — collusion doesn’t even have legal significance. ...”

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Here's the game Kellyanne Conway and the Trump team are playing on 'collusion' (Original Post) DonViejo May 2018 OP
Complicit. louis-t May 2018 #1
They're framing the impeachment landscape...he doesn't give a chit about indictments. CincyDem May 2018 #2
I didn't know Kellyanne was a lawyer. LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2018 #3

CincyDem

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2. They're framing the impeachment landscape...he doesn't give a chit about indictments.
Tue May 29, 2018, 05:54 PM
May 2018


It's a faith vs. fact game and he's betting that the cult of his base will follow faith vs facts...and the way you create a catechism of faith is through repetition and unwavering blindness to anything inconsistent with that faith. KellyAnn is his head apostle but certainly the Miller's and SHS's of the world will be remembered for their role.
3. I didn't know Kellyanne was a lawyer.
Tue May 29, 2018, 06:16 PM
May 2018

Anyhow, even if "collusion" isn't a thing, "conspiring against the United States" is:

18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States


If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

If, however, the offense, the commission of which is the object of the conspiracy, is a misdemeanor only, the punishment for such conspiracy shall not exceed the maximum punishment provided for such misdemeanor.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 701; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

Bite me, Kellyanne.

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