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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu May 31, 2018, 08:41 AM May 2018

Roseanne Could Be a Turning Point for Conservative Women

Women had a lot of reasons to vote for Trump, starting with Hillary Clinton. She’s not running now, and his flaws—and those of many of his supporters—are becoming harder to ignore.

KELI GOFF
05.31.18 4:49 AM ET

One of the many reasons people were shocked by Donald Trump's election is that they couldn’t fathom that women would vote against a competent female candidate in favor of a man facing very credible allegations of misogyny and harassment. (For the record, I have written that the lingering allegations against Hillary Clinton’s husband certainly complicated things, but Bill Clinton still wasn’t on the ballot in 2016.)

While the most common media narrative became that white women voted for Trump en masse because they were racists, the truth is much more complicated. Thanks to Roseanne Barr’s racist rhetoric, among other high-profile conservative missteps, Republicans are likely to find out just how complicated these women voters are — and to face a real reckoning at the voting booth.

Plenty of my liberal friends were shocked that any woman could cast a vote for Donald Trump, I wasn’t because I had some conservative friends (and yes they are still my friends) who had done just that. Their reasons came down to the issues that were most important to them, like abortion. For those that consider it murder, they were willing to vote for whichever candidate would nominate justices and push policies to end it – even if that meant holding their nose and closing their eyes in the voting booth. And guess what? For those voters President Trump has delivered, from nominating conservative stalwart Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court, to reinstating the global gag rule, which prevents international organizations receiving US Aid from discussing abortion options. (The White House is exploring a domestic gag rule as well.)

There were other reasons women voted for him that many of us may not fully understand, but those women didn’t need us to understand because their reasons made sense to them. For some, they were willing to vote for a qualified female candidate — including a Democrat — but not for Hillary Clinton. They didn’t like her, didn’t trust her and never would. And while they surmised it was possible that Donald Trump engaged in inappropriate sexual behavior, they already knew Hillary Clinton’s husband had and that she defended him. So in their eyes that made the 2016 election essentially a wash. You could either vote for the guy that you knew was a jerk but who you actually agreed with on tax policy or immigration policy or vote for the woman you may not agree with, because she’s a woman, but she’s a woman married to another jerk. Trump and Clinton were the two least popular presidential nominees on record.

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Roseanne Could Be a Turning Point for Conservative Women (Original Post) DonViejo May 2018 OP
So much BS so earlyin the morning n/t hibbing May 2018 #1
That! Alethia Merritt May 2018 #2
Yes. Tipperary May 2018 #8
Interesting article Sherman A1 May 2018 #3
Why would this be the wake up? kcr May 2018 #4
BlahblahBLAHBLAH Let's Reach Out To Trump Voters Blahblahblah hatrack May 2018 #5
I really wish they'd stop using the term "conservative" when referring Guy Whitey Corngood May 2018 #6
When white You can't vote for a racist and not BE one ismnotwasm May 2018 #7

kcr

(15,315 posts)
4. Why would this be the wake up?
Thu May 31, 2018, 08:56 AM
May 2018

Trump voters hear Roseanne's garbage all the time if they aren't saying it themselves. That's their world. This article is ridiculous.

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
5. BlahblahBLAHBLAH Let's Reach Out To Trump Voters Blahblahblah
Thu May 31, 2018, 08:57 AM
May 2018
(For the record, I have written that the lingering allegations against Hillary Clinton’s husband certainly complicated things, but Bill Clinton still wasn’t on the ballot in 2016.)

And then:

You could either vote for the guy that you knew was a jerk but who you actually agreed with on tax policy or immigration policy or vote for the woman you may not agree with, because she’s a woman, but she’s a woman married to another jerk.

Oh, so Bill Clinton was on the ballot after all. And it only took you 3 paragraphs to get there. Whatever.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
6. I really wish they'd stop using the term "conservative" when referring
Thu May 31, 2018, 09:02 AM
May 2018

to these clowns. Politically that word means nothing anymore. Reactionary is probably more accurate.

ismnotwasm

(41,971 posts)
7. When white You can't vote for a racist and not BE one
Thu May 31, 2018, 09:02 AM
May 2018

White people need to stop this shit.

They don’t get a pass because they didn’t “like” Hillary. Nobody does.

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