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obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
Thu May 31, 2018, 03:21 PM May 2018

I think "wypipo" is a terrific term

It is funny and snarky and pointed, and the "outrage" over it comes from a place of privilege, the same place where people rail against "Dear White People," Black Lives Matter, and Oprah buying $500 handbags.

I also could care less about black folks using the term "cracker," and I say that as someone whose maternal side is 75% cracker.

Y'all wypipo outraged by all of this make me lol, and I'm a wypipo.*

That is all.

*Disclaimer: I do get really tan when I'm out in the sun, but I still have 100% VERY wypipo genes.

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I think "wypipo" is a terrific term (Original Post) obamanut2012 May 2018 OP
I like it, too. Doesn't bother me. Laffy Kat May 2018 #1
!!! obamanut2012 May 2018 #2
Does it even exist outside of DU?... lame54 May 2018 #3
It's kind of like the mirror image of "Antifa" Tommy_Carcetti May 2018 #6
Exactly, it's a Rorschach test. grantcart May 2018 #9
Nope. Tipperary May 2018 #11
It's pretty common out in the internet world gollygee May 2018 #12
It's far more prevalent off of DU than on. NCTraveler May 2018 #15
To be effective, it probably shouldn't be funny leftstreet May 2018 #4
Making fun of something is a very effective form of protest gollygee May 2018 #13
Honestly... HopeAgain May 2018 #5
Yeah I think you hit the nail on the head. nt gollygee May 2018 #8
It depends on what the purpose of it is el_bryanto May 2018 #7
I'm not outraged Madam Mossfern May 2018 #10
I also like "redskin" and "china people" progressoid May 2018 #14
There is a saying this sad desire to defend bigotry reminds me of mythology May 2018 #16
Punching up vs punching down. Codeine May 2018 #29
Arguably, China will soon be the world leader economically. progressoid May 2018 #34
Within the US, it's punching down gollygee May 2018 #36
Deliberate obtuseness isn't as adorable as you think. nt Codeine May 2018 #42
That's very true. progressoid May 2018 #45
'Self-righteous codswallop peddlers' is another fun way to describe people. LanternWaste May 2018 #37
It's a word commonly used in the larger progressive world gollygee May 2018 #17
Wypipo low hanging fruit Devil Child May 2018 #18
breastfeeding, children at nice restaurants, people with a large number of kids, circumcision, gollygee May 2018 #20
Those are some bonafide DU dogwhistles Devil Child May 2018 #24
Oh there's a special term for that gollygee May 2018 #25
You are a cat person? Devil Child May 2018 #26
Oh yeah the indoors/outdoors cat threads! gollygee May 2018 #27
Lol. cwydro May 2018 #23
bingo - well said . . . . DrDan May 2018 #41
Doesn't bother me. Polly Hennessey May 2018 #19
I think you're confused... TCJ70 May 2018 #21
"Talking White" kentuck May 2018 #22
Those that keep railing against the term are only prompting its spread Thekaspervote May 2018 #28
Because White People are the only racists, right? Why not just call racists "racists"? PubliusEnigma May 2018 #30
This term does not bother me at all Gothmog May 2018 #31
Wypipo sounds like white people spoken with an accent. KPN May 2018 #32
That's what it is... TCJ70 May 2018 #33
It doesn't strike me that way. I'm not offended KPN May 2018 #44
I honestly don't believe any of the outrage is sincere. LanternWaste May 2018 #35
It is very rare that I agree with LanternWaste. Codeine May 2018 #43
pocpipos sure are having fun using it Alea May 2018 #38
heh KG May 2018 #39
Uh, I don't think you want to admit that. progressoid May 2018 #40

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,173 posts)
6. It's kind of like the mirror image of "Antifa"
Thu May 31, 2018, 03:31 PM
May 2018

....a term which I think only exists in the fevered minds of the far-right, along with notions of Democrats being slavishly devoted to Saul Alinsky's teachings.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
15. It's far more prevalent off of DU than on.
Thu May 31, 2018, 03:48 PM
May 2018


It is a regular topic of conversation at The Root and many other sites.

Do a search there and you will find a number of good pieces.

https://www.theroot.com/

leftstreet

(36,103 posts)
4. To be effective, it probably shouldn't be funny
Thu May 31, 2018, 03:25 PM
May 2018

I don't get much of this...but somehow it seems that if whites embrace the term as 'funny,' it diminishes the seriousness behind movements like Black Lives Matter

But maybe that's just me

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
13. Making fun of something is a very effective form of protest
Thu May 31, 2018, 03:42 PM
May 2018

Humor can have great power.

Have you asked participants of Black Lives Matter how they feel about the term "wypipo?" Don't appeal to their authority if you don't know they'd come down on your side.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
5. Honestly...
Thu May 31, 2018, 03:30 PM
May 2018

I think it is because it doesn't conjure up just images of Deplorables in MAGA hats. It can include the white people who think they are not at all racist but stand all over white privilege. I think it makes some people nervous because it makes us question our current roles while living with white privilege.

Madam Mossfern

(2,340 posts)
10. I'm not outraged
Thu May 31, 2018, 03:37 PM
May 2018

but I beg to differ about the term.
It just provides another way to set up an "us vs. them" mentality.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
16. There is a saying this sad desire to defend bigotry reminds me of
Thu May 31, 2018, 03:51 PM
May 2018

When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

Just replace god with racial slur.

This should be obvious, sadly it isn't.

progressoid

(49,977 posts)
34. Arguably, China will soon be the world leader economically.
Thu May 31, 2018, 04:30 PM
May 2018

And I'm sure Blankenship was just complaining about the economic threat from the "China people". He didn't say anything about their food or music or funny sounding names. So is that punching up or punching down?



 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
37. 'Self-righteous codswallop peddlers' is another fun way to describe people.
Thu May 31, 2018, 04:47 PM
May 2018

'Self-righteous codswallop peddlers' is another fun way to describe people.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
17. It's a word commonly used in the larger progressive world
Thu May 31, 2018, 03:57 PM
May 2018

particularly among African Americans. There was no good specific word to call out people who do or say racist things and are outraged at the suggestion they might be racist.

But a small number of white people at DU find it uncomfortable. They want us to center their feelings of discomfort over the feelings of people of color, who are the victims of racism every day and should be able to speak about that racism in whatever way they need in order to discuss it and process what is happening to them. And they should certainly be able to poke at racism. "Wypipo" is a stick used to poke at racism.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
18. Wypipo low hanging fruit
Thu May 31, 2018, 04:01 PM
May 2018

Place wypipo or Bernie Sanders in the subject line and you are going to get an active thread. I am waiting patiently for a Wypipo-Bernie combo thread.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
20. breastfeeding, children at nice restaurants, people with a large number of kids, circumcision,
Thu May 31, 2018, 04:03 PM
May 2018

Olive Garden, frying chicken, "I Don't Drink With You" . . .

There are lots of things that create threads like that.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
25. Oh there's a special term for that
Thu May 31, 2018, 04:07 PM
May 2018

"Breed Specific Legislation?" I think. I'm a cat person so I don't keep up on these things. Though the whole cat person/dog person issue could create a huge thread too.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
23. Lol.
Thu May 31, 2018, 04:06 PM
May 2018

DU loves memes of the week.

So many here are over 60 or 70, but desperately need to feel “cool.”

I’m in that demo, but find this pathetic.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
21. I think you're confused...
Thu May 31, 2018, 04:04 PM
May 2018

According to the people who define the word it's not a positive thing. Yet you say:

Y'all wypipo outraged by all of this make me lol, and I'm a wypipo.


It's not something you want to be. You're calling yourself a racist bigot. There are no positives to it.

It's a word that used to describe only one particular race of people in completely negative ways. It's a race based slur. Why it's considered acceptable here is beyond me. We wouldn't tolerate that about any other group.

kentuck

(111,078 posts)
22. "Talking White"
Thu May 31, 2018, 04:04 PM
May 2018
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/10/talking_white_black_people_s_disdain_for_proper_english_and_academic_achievement.html

Black people’s disdain for “proper English” and academic achievement is a myth.

<snip>



“Ebonics” is mocked as a fake language, and efforts to use it in schools have sparked vocal opposition. When the Oakland, California, school board approved Ebonics for use in its schools in 1996, a flurry of public figures condemned the decision. “I understand the attempt to reach out to these children, but this is an unacceptable surrender, bordering on disgrace,” said the Rev. Jesse Jackson, who later reversed his stance, but not before he was endorsed by a wide range of people.

At the time, linguists protested the criticism, noting the extent to which Ebonics—officially known as African American Vernacular English—is recognized as a language system with its own grammar and pronunciations, with roots in the regional dialects of 17th-century Great Britain. Far from being slang or broken, AAVE is a distinct form of English used by many blacks in informal settings.


<snip>

Ogbu was thorough and convincing enough to spawn a whole genre of popular work around “acting white.” Besides Riley, the most recent contributions include Ron Christie’s Acting White: The Curious History of a Racial Slur and Stuart Buck’s Acting White: The Ironic Legacy of Desegregation, which—like Ogbu’s work—argues that blacks lag in educational outcomes because of a cultural bias against academic achievement.

In the last 10 years, however, new research has challenged the “acting white” theory. In a 2005 paper, sociologists Karolyn Tyson, William Darity Jr., and Domini Castellino found “that black adolescents are generally achievement oriented and that racialized peer pressure against high academic achievement is not prevalent in all schools.”

PubliusEnigma

(1,583 posts)
30. Because White People are the only racists, right? Why not just call racists "racists"?
Thu May 31, 2018, 04:13 PM
May 2018

Or is that not snarky enough?

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
33. That's what it is...
Thu May 31, 2018, 04:25 PM
May 2018

...except that it means racist/bigot/apathetic about injustice/other negative things. So it's the phrase "white people", respelled, then had a bunch of negatives attached to it. That's not really OK...

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
35. I honestly don't believe any of the outrage is sincere.
Thu May 31, 2018, 04:43 PM
May 2018

I honestly don't believe any of the outrage is sincere. At all. Not on DU. Not at the fictional places used as the "well, I heard..." or the "at my offices..." anecdotal posts.

The pretense of outrage however, is really effective cover for a lot of people who wish to pretend maltreatment, discrimination, and persecution at the hands of minorities.

Because lacking that pretense, the obvious privileges they consistently deny as a reality would have to be recognized.




I doubt they realize they don't get it both ways.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
43. It is very rare that I agree with LanternWaste.
Thu May 31, 2018, 06:28 PM
May 2018

He speaks wisdom here however, despite his infuriating habit of repeating his header in the text of the message.

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