Excelllent article here about the four kinds of conservatives.

[Archae]

http://vagabondscholar.blogspot.com/2012/07/the-four-types-of-conservatives.html

Notice which one is the largest group.

[leveymg]

1. Excellent blogger, that Vagabond Scholar. Thanks for linking that!

[daligirl519]

8. Wow! Thanks for linking this.

I am sending this to every thinking person that I know. Some of them include very confused former sane Golderwater-type republicans that are in great denial.

[kooljerk666]

2. excellent article, well worth reading.............

k/r

[lindysalsagal]

3. Includes a good link to Rachel Maddow video about GOP policy flip flops against Obama

I think the explanation about remaining gop supporters is that they're small, uninformed, insecure, and they see the world the way they want to see it, rather than the way it is.

They gravitate to hate radio and Faux because the world feels more correct when they go there than it does anywhere else.

Just like we make god in our ow image, they make political realities in their own version of make-believe.

[oldhippydude]

4. great article

K/R.. bookmarked the thread for later reference

[Patiod]

5. My best friend is a Sober Adult conservative, which is why I can talk to her

She's constantly railing about Personal Responsibility and against people who make poor life choices, do drugs or drink to excess, don't save enough for retirement, eat badly, etc. She thinks (like many, many of us on DU, including myself) that people shouldn't spend more than they make or buy more house than they can afford.

But it's a little frustrating because she has no tolerance for anyone who steps out of the boundaries of prudent behavior (including her own family). And it's hard to convince her that most people just aren't that smart about money and investing, and can't necessarily manage their own retirement funds.

But she doesn't listen to Fox, and makes up her own mind on most issues, and doesn't adhere to the party line. We can give and take about stuff -- for instance, she hates unions because she deals with them on a day to day basis in her job and frankly, many of the construction unions she deals with in Our Fair City suck, which I admit, but then she will also admit that she would prefer the pilots union to set flight rules rather than airline companies, and that some unions are absolutely necessary or people's health and well-being would be threatened. So at least we can have a good discussion.

She's really the only conservative I can actually talk to about anything substantive anymore, and I blame that on Fox "News"

[daligirl519]

9. I still have a few friends like that . . .

And I feel for them because they really seem so lost sometimes.

[Patiod]

13. My friend doesn't vote

I think she is lost politically - she would have been a happy Eisenhower Republican, but doesn't have a Tea Party bone in her body.

[Archae]

14. I had a relative who was far-right conservative, he claimed Hitler had the right idea.

The bastard is long dead.

[steve2470]

6. k&r nt

[Motown_Johnny]

7. They should replace "BLAARGH!" with "Tea Party"

[daligirl519]

10. Thanks for posting this! eom

[malaise]

11. Excellent read

Thanks

[meow2u3]

12. The best quote from this Vagabond Scholar

When most conservatives say "freedom," they really mean privilege, and proud zealots believe they are fighting for what they perceive to be the natural order, which of course entails themselves at the top.

[XemaSab]

19. This isn't true for all of them, though

Some of them say "freedom" to mean Jesus.

[vanlassie]

15. Thanks for this.

[A Simple Game]

16. The author makes the same mistake many on DU make,

he confuses conservative and Republican and uses them interchangeably. They can be but are not always the same creature.

Nor do I believe that the sober group is the smallest and that the reckless is the biggest. The reckless is the most vocal now but I believe the sober is still the biggest. My thinking may be skewed because I live in New York State. Our conservatives have always been more socially liberal than most, as are our Republicans.

"Reckless Addicts" to call a conservative a "drunken teenager" is laughable, a conservative is anything but. You could call a Republican an "drunken teenager" and you could be right, but nobody that acts like a drunken teenager is a conservative.

"Proud Zealots" as conservatives, that's funnier than "drunken teenager". A zealot is by definition: an excessively zealous person; fanatic. Again, you could be describing a Republican but not a conservative.

"Stealthy Extremists" I'll give him this one, but still fits a Republican better than a conservative.

If the author had used Republican exclusively and not interchanged it with conservative, I would have said the article was a good one. But by letting the addicts, zealots, and extremists define themselves as conservatives or for that matter even as Republicans lets them hide their agendas under a more mundane label. We shouldn't let them get away with it.

[immoderate]

17. Wow!

Just wow!

--imm

[XemaSab]

18. I started a thread about one of the links

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101637531

Good article!