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'As a poor Mormon missionary in Paris, Romney didn't have a refrigerator, but his chef did.' (Original Post) onehandle Aug 2012 OP
LOL BumRushDaShow Aug 2012 #1
Apparently, he's struck a nerve! NYC_SKP Aug 2012 #2
One thing republicans will always do is complain Irishonly Aug 2012 #6
Those people are idiots. NYC Liberal Aug 2012 #13
Most of them are prob paid Tweeters n/t dmr Aug 2012 #28
ROFL!!! Tennessee Gal Aug 2012 #3
I think people are going a bit overboard in their attacks against Mr. Romney. Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2012 #4
I heard that one morning his car elevator doors wouldn't open, and... NYC_SKP Aug 2012 #7
Well I hear it's gotten so bad, Ann needs ergonomic eShirl Aug 2012 #22
Look at those hands! She's groping herself on teevee! I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked! freshwest Aug 2012 #36
Ha! gollygee Aug 2012 #5
Mitt also had to live with the shame of Vietnam service avoidance gulliver Aug 2012 #8
Have we ever heard from someone he recruited? He probably paid some other Mormon Dustlawyer Aug 2012 #14
Just retweeted... liberalmuse Aug 2012 #9
Ebert Wasn't Joking: Raine1967 Aug 2012 #10
I have to add this, from the article: Raine1967 Aug 2012 #11
"shopped before every meal"??? Ha! That's called "Paris"! TahitiNut Aug 2012 #16
At that time, my French friends generally shopped every day. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #17
Exactly. TahitiNut Aug 2012 #19
I always felt safe on the streets. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #40
So did I. When I was there, TahitiNut Aug 2012 #41
He didn't think there was a fridge cause he didn't have to go in the kitchen SaveAmerica Aug 2012 #21
16th arrondissement?? TahitiNut Aug 2012 #12
Oh, the horror! xxqqqzme Aug 2012 #15
In those days, NOBODY in Paris used a shower curtain or had a shower 'fixture'. TahitiNut Aug 2012 #18
Don't you love how he's redefining things? Raine1967 Aug 2012 #25
Ignorance ... it defines the GOP base. TahitiNut Aug 2012 #26
I can't help but think of these guys... Ferretherder Aug 2012 #20
A video with so many applications.:) n/t malthaussen Aug 2012 #30
That's hysterical! smirkymonkey Aug 2012 #33
That's how he got out of serving in Vietnam. nytemare Aug 2012 #23
Surprised? LaBella Aug 2012 #24
Ciao "Bella"! beac Aug 2012 #37
Maybe he'll claim he was 'born a poor black child' tularetom Aug 2012 #27
OMG, I found the address and pictures of this horrible, horrible place! The poor man! NYC_SKP Aug 2012 #29
It's a real "Grapes of Wrath" scenario. Vinca Aug 2012 #31
What a dump! smirkymonkey Aug 2012 #34
onehandle Diclotican Aug 2012 #32
Agreed. Totally. Romney was more akin to a rich kid traveling abroad, than a 'missionary.' nt onehandle Aug 2012 #35
if you've got a chef indigoth Aug 2012 #38
No fridge? Well, no wonder he said he "longed" to serve in Vietnam! pinboy3niner Aug 2012 #39
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
2. Apparently, he's struck a nerve!
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 11:57 AM
Aug 2012

People tweeting that they will no longer read his movie reviews, and that he should stick to film...

Irishonly

(3,344 posts)
6. One thing republicans will always do is complain
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 12:30 PM
Aug 2012

If a liberal says something they don't like they will say _____ needs to stick to _____ or their free speech rights are being infringed. If they say horrible things they have the right to say it so put up and shut up.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
4. I think people are going a bit overboard in their attacks against Mr. Romney.
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 12:01 PM
Aug 2012

I heard he had to suffer a number of indignities. Such as sub par foie gras and having to deal with incompetent servants.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
7. I heard that one morning his car elevator doors wouldn't open, and...
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 12:40 PM
Aug 2012

...and he couldn't get a repair person until the AFTERNOON!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
36. Look at those hands! She's groping herself on teevee! I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked!
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 08:17 PM
Aug 2012

Anything for attention...

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
8. Mitt also had to live with the shame of Vietnam service avoidance
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 12:50 PM
Aug 2012

Sure, he ate well and spent most of his "missionary" time in a mansion. But he is a sensitive, caring guy. You just know he was in his own private hell of shame over using his missionary service to avoid going to Vietnam.

And remember, he was doing everything he could to recruit people to Mormonism and keep them out of the untrue Christianities. So he was fighting for souls.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
14. Have we ever heard from someone he recruited? He probably paid some other Mormon
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:22 PM
Aug 2012

to recruit for him!

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
10. Ebert Wasn't Joking:
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:10 PM
Aug 2012

From the Telegraph:


Mr Romney told supporters he had experienced austerity as a missionary in France, using a bucket for a lavatory and a hose for a shower. “You’re not living high on the hog at that kind of level,” he said.

But the Republican presidential hopeful spent a significant portion of his 30-month mission in a Paris mansion described by fellow American missionaries to The Daily Telegraph as “palace”. It featured stained glass windows, chandeliers, and an extensive art collection. It was staffed by two servants – a Spanish chef and a houseboy.

Although he spent time in other French cities, for most of 1968, Mr Romney lived in the Mission Home, a 19th century neoclassical building in the French capital’s chic 16th arrondissement. “It was a house built by and for rich people,” said Richard Anderson, the son of the mission president at the time of Mr Romney’s stay. “I would describe it as a palace”.


Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
11. I have to add this, from the article:
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:18 PM
Aug 2012
In his remarks this week, Mr Romney said of his French lodgings: “I don’t recall any of them having a refrigerator. We shopped before every meal”. Mr Anderson said that as well as a refrigerator, the mansion had “a Spanish chef called Pardo and a house boy, who prepared lunch and supper five days a week”.

It was “well equipped” with all modern conveniences, including a combination washer-dryer machine, Mr Anderson said. “I never saw anything like it in another private home at that time.”


Roger wasn't being tongue in cheek at all.

TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
16. "shopped before every meal"??? Ha! That's called "Paris"!
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:30 PM
Aug 2012

EVERY Parisian shops for food daily! It's a ritual for every salary worker to stop on the way home for a baguettte and a bottle of vin d'table. Some cheese, too. (In fact, that makes a TERRIFIC afternoon snack in the Bois d'Bologne, watching folks play boules. The housewife/girlfriend/roommate will have done the DAILY shopping for meat, fish, or poultry at the local charcuterie. It's NORMAL. Parisians are OBSESSIVE about FRESH food... it's trucked into Paris EVERY night from farms all around France. Salad greens? They were in the field less than a week before they're served. Leftovers? Made into a terrine.

I lived in Paris for over 3 months -- job assignment -- and observed this 'lifestyle' constantly. It's WONDERFUL.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
17. At that time, my French friends generally shopped every day.
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:32 PM
Aug 2012

My French friends did not like stale vegetables and fruit, etc. In my experience, the French used to pride themselves on the fact that they shopped each day and ate fresh.

In fact, one of my French friends who had lived in the US expressed shock at the fact that Americans don't shop for fruits and vegetables every day.

TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
19. Exactly.
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:39 PM
Aug 2012

The very notion of buying food that wasn't "ripe" was, to my French friends and coworkers, insane. They'd think "vine-ripened" was to be assumed for a tomato, for example.

It's true, however, that refrigerators weren't common or large. They didn't see much of an advantage ... beyond what we'd call "office-sized." The lifestyle just didn't call for it. Want ice cream? Go for a walk and enjoy the exercise and meeting neighbors. Stop for a treat. They just didn't stay cooped up and alone. The very advantage of living in Paris was the neighborhood.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
40. I always felt safe on the streets.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 07:21 PM
Aug 2012

Maybe that was an illusion, but that's the way I felt.

I never feared going down in the Metro or the Tube or any of the underground public transportation systems in Europe. That may have changed, but I doubt it.

TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
41. So did I. When I was there,
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 05:46 AM
Aug 2012

... crime against property (burglary, petty theft) was fairly common (about the same as any big US city), but crimes against people and crimes of violence were nearly non-existent. I regarded Le Metro as a joy. Even though I had a car (stayed and worked in Aulnay sous Bois), I'd park it and use the Metro.

I actually became a semi-official "Parisian Driver". I'd noticed that the 4-lane boulevards in Paris became 3 lanes in one direction (1 in the other) during rush hour. It didn't take a LOT of thought to consider that someone had to be the intrepid chicken-man who'd start the 3rd lane by essentially driving into oncoming traffic. It always gave me pause to think of such daring/suicidalism... and the, one day, I was driving at the beginning of rush hour while traffic was 2+2 and very congested in the 2 lanes. So, I thought, "This is my chance to do something really stupid and experiment!" I pulled left into ONCOMING TRAFFIC! Lo and behold! The oncoming cars in front of me passively pulled over into a single lane and ... in my rear-view mirror ... I saw dozens of Frenchmen pulling left to follow me!!! I had ARRIVED! I was a REAL Parisian!

It sounds silly, I guess, but I still take a kind of personal pride in doing that. I LOVE the mix of cultures.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
15. Oh, the horror!
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:28 PM
Aug 2012

Imagine the inconvenience. He must have been fearful some other person would learn of his daily indignities.

What a wuss - had to shower w/ w a hose? Really? A 19th century house? He's lucky there was a hose.

TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
18. In those days, NOBODY in Paris used a shower curtain or had a shower 'fixture'.
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:36 PM
Aug 2012

To shower, one stood (or crouched) in the tub with an extension off the nozzle. That's called "NORMAL." The buildings inside Paris are a LEAST 100 years old, unless they're corporate hotels. The fancy digs in the 16th Arrondisement are 'upscale' because they're on the side of Paris the furthest from where the Germans would invade ... and the artillery hit. They're also the second priciest in the city (the most expensive being on Isle St. Louis and Isle d'Cite) because of location, location, location.

I'm guessing the "bucket" might be called a "chamberpot."

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
25. Don't you love how he's redefining things?
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 03:02 PM
Aug 2012

It's amazing -- he actually thinks that people don't understand what it is like to live in Paris.

nytemare

(10,888 posts)
23. That's how he got out of serving in Vietnam.
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:41 PM
Aug 2012

I wonder how many Parisians he proselytized into being Mormon?

LaBella

(1 post)
24. Surprised?
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:54 PM
Aug 2012

What should we expect from someone who needs an elevator for his cars and can spend more than the average person earns working to teach a horse to dance. Someone directed me to a website to read an article about Obama and I ended up reading a really neat article called, "Mitt Romney never dreamed My American Dream". I thought it about summed it up. Check it out:

http://www.thepragmaticpundit.com/2012/08/mitt-romney-never-dreamed-my-american.html

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
27. Maybe he'll claim he was 'born a poor black child'
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 03:59 PM
Aug 2012


The movie title is rather appropriate for mitt don't you think?
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
29. OMG, I found the address and pictures of this horrible, horrible place! The poor man!
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 04:40 PM
Aug 2012

It is currently the embassy for the United Arab Emirates, who are really about as poor as Mittens, poor darlings!



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Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
32. onehandle
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 06:35 PM
Aug 2012

onehandle

I doubt he was living as most missionaries of the LDS church.. He is a disgrace for the church, and for everyone who have served, or is serving as we speak as missionaries... My experiences with missionaries is that they live a rather spartan life, they have what they need to live, but with few of the comfort creatures we take for granted... No radio, no TV, even though they now is allowed to have a CD player, to play music who is accepted by the LDS Shurch.. And a letter home now and then, in this modern time and age, often by Email who often is one of the few ways to contact home for young men and woman, who work hard as missionaries.But other than that, just missionary work and less pleasure than most of us others enjoy on a regular basis..

And I have at least, never seen any missionaries, who had their own chef to serve them hand and foot...

Diclotican

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
39. No fridge? Well, no wonder he said he "longed" to serve in Vietnam!
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 10:31 PM
Aug 2012
Many years later, in 1994, Romney said, "It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam, but nor did I take any actions to remove myself from the pool of young men who were eligible for the draft." That wasn't true -- he took several steps to remove himself from the eligibility pool.

By 2007, Romney, a presidential candidate, argued. "I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there, and in some ways it was frustrating not to feel like I was there as part of the troops that were fighting in Vietnam."

But that's not what he said in 1994, and if "longed" to serve in the war he protested to support, Romney probably shouldn't have gone so far out of his way to make sure he didn't have to go.

The MaddowBlog: The war Romney 'longed' for
http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/06/06/12085094-the-war-romney-longed-for?lite




Fortunate Son
Recorded by Creedence Clearwater Revival
Written by John Fogerty

Some folks are born made to wave the flag
Ooh, they're red, white and blue
And when the band plays "Hail to the chief"
Ooh, they point the cannon at you, Lord

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son, son
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no

Yeah!
Some folks are born silver spoon in hand
Lord, don't they help themselves, oh
But when the taxman comes to the door
Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale, yes

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no millionaire's son, no
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no

Some folks inherit star spangled eyes
Ooh, they send you down to war, Lord
And when you ask them, "How much should we give?"
Ooh, they only answer More! More! More! yoh

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no military son, son
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, one

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate one, no no no
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate son, no no no



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