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Stuart G

(38,420 posts)
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 09:58 PM Jun 2018

You Think Trump has reached the "BOTTOM"...you are wrong...This is a bottom:

Iraqi deaths in Iraq war..........depends on what you read.........150,000 .low...600,000 high.
...........................................depends on source ...........

check out different sources at link below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War



U.S.A .............................................................deaths.......... 4100... approx.
..................................................................wounded .........32,000... approx.

Every time I look at Tammy Duckworth, senator from Illinois..I see pain. And.......she has handled her loss remarkably well. So many Vets are homeless and unable to function. Or have recovered some, and then lost their strength and ability to function..

The above is a bottom of far more horrific set of circumstances than now... Something like the Iraq war, right here in the United States might signify a bottom unknown in the U.S.A in 150 years. Never underestimate a "BOTTOM" that you do not know about or have felt. Yes, Trump may have hit a "bottom" in your eyes, but terms of ...history?...even U.S.History?....this is no bottom, it is a momentary stop, like a bus stop, or a stop sign on the road..................
.... Few of us have any idea what a bottom is/was. There are a few in Russia that were kids, maybe old enough to think, ( if born in 1936, they would be 82 now) that saw the 20,000,000 deaths that the German Army inflicted during WWII. The Germans over ran their country and killed countless people and committed unreported atrocities that are unfathomable. You read about the carnage in history...but imagine experiencing that in your country and seeing millions die as the enemy overruns and kills, and kills and then kills some more...The fact that Russia won, and Germany lost is a miracle. Think about that for a while when you think about Trump's so called "bottom". Yes, there is so much farther down to go, that it cannot be described. Trump could get us to a bottom that would make the events of the last few weeks look like a picnic.
....What do we do? We fight this in ways that bring us together and expose the evil. And keep fighting this until we win and Congress in both houses is controlled by a Democratic majority. That is what we must do.

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You Think Trump has reached the "BOTTOM"...you are wrong...This is a bottom: (Original Post) Stuart G Jun 2018 OP
K&R UTUSN Jun 2018 #1
The Iraqi war was a war of US aggression YessirAtsaFact Jun 2018 #2
The Iraq War was horrific. It was a bottom of sorts. And a bottom for many soldiers and Stuart G Jun 2018 #4
Kissinger's roles in the Nixon and Ford administrations are likewise unsettling. n/t John1956PA Jun 2018 #3
When he was a little boy, my uncle escaped from Russia with his two teenage sisters. mountain grammy Jun 2018 #5

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
2. The Iraqi war was a war of US aggression
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 10:32 PM
Jun 2018

It should never have happened.

There would have been no ISIS without it.

It’s a blight on American history.

But it did not endanger our democracy.

Trump is a danger to the republic.

Stuart G

(38,420 posts)
4. The Iraq War was horrific. It was a bottom of sorts. And a bottom for many soldiers and
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 10:39 PM
Jun 2018

soldier's families..As stated, some right now, have never recovered ..

Trump is a danger to create a situation that we have not experienced in this lifetime. Yes, a danger to the republic. But that bottom is in the future in my opinion, and could be prevented if we stay together and keep the focus on retaking majorities in both Houses of Congress so we can impeach trump and remove him

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
5. When he was a little boy, my uncle escaped from Russia with his two teenage sisters.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 12:59 AM
Jun 2018

on foot after watching their parents murdered in a pogrom.
I know we're no where near bottom, but I don't want to get there. If my uncle were alive today he'd be horrified by trump.

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