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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSupporting Ron Paul....
saw this on facebook...thought it got right to the point.
"Supporting Ron Paul because he happens to espouse a few non-insane viewpoints and ignoring all the crazy Bircher/ Randian/ Libertarian stuff is like saying Charles Manson must be a pretty cool guy because he appreciates the Beatles. "
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ghettonewz-America/162379530449928
edited to add: FRP
Puregonzo1188
(1,948 posts)frazzled
(18,402 posts)Or at least there are some who defend him, solely because of issues like legalization of pot and ending wars (actually, locking the US into isolationist positions across the board, but that's another story).
And then there are those who appear to defend those who defend Paul. Does that amount to supporting him?
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Well, when the witch hunt rules are codified, let us know the answer to that.
TheWraith
(24,331 posts)They're just talking up his supposed anti-war credentials, how wonderfully anti-imperialist he is, and how much more liberal he is on drugs than Democrats.
That's BESIDE the unending influx of hundreds of Paul trolls over the last couple months dedicated to trying to convert DUers to members of the Paultry.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)< gentle voice > That is what they are doing, dear. <gentle voice / >
eridani
(51,907 posts)--of a stopped clock being right twice a day.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)five or six people doing most of the posting about Paul. Your name looks familiar, you aren't one of them are you? At times it seems to be just a diversion from talking about President Obama's mistakes, but I may be wrong, what do you think?
Why shouldn't the Paul defenders be defended? Everyone has a right to support and vote for whom they want, don't they? We may not like it, but as Americans we will defend their right to do so. You agree with that don't you?
Paul would be a footnote in history if people would quit talking about him so much. What do you think?
frazzled
(18,402 posts)I am a vocal opponent of any kind of libertarianism, right or left. I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat and a committed Obama supporter.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)I wasn't posting this as an accusation against DU'ers.
zeke67
(8 posts)Some even in my family. They tried to get me to read Greenwald's latest article :
"Progressives and the Ron Paul fallacies "
I tell them about Rocky Anderson, but all they do is rationalize and find excuses.
I am going to divorce them all..
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)It's quite comical.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)That one really points out the hypocrisy of the Democrats on the subject and I notice the Obama Booster Club never mentions it.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)I DO NOT support legalizing all drugs.
Don't see how that makes me a hypocrite.
I also support making prostitution legal.
rah rah sis boom bah ( Obama Booster Club)
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Just like the vast majority of the rest of the Democratic politicians.
Uncle Joe
(58,277 posts)If the Democratic and Republican Parties don't wake up and smell the coffee, people like Paul will come to power in increasing numbers.
girl gone mad
(20,634 posts)We're stuck with two parties on the extreme authoritarian end of the spectrum and Paul is like the woman at the end of the famous "1984" Apple commercial, throwing the sledgehammer at Big Brother.
Paul himself is basically irrelevant, in my view, but the legacy parties must be concerned that his anti-statist, anti-militaristic ideas might become popular in an era where big government is absolutely not working to improve the lives of the majority of people.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)I wish more Dem politicians supported it.
There was a time when inter-racial wasn't supported either.
Sadly we don't take giant leaps we take baby steps.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)And our politicians have no problem taking giant steps when it suits them, the PATRIOT Act was signed into law on Oct 26 2001..
Rex
(65,616 posts)Response to Puregonzo1188 (Reply #1)
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JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)RobertEmmet
(5 posts)Sometimes he makes sense.
But most of the time, he's completely off his rocker.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)...he gives generously to "green causes" and attends environmental rallies.
Well, that is maybe a "tiny" bit over the top to compare Ron Paul with Charles Manson, lol, but I get the point of what they are trying to say.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)I can't stand his uber Darwinistic economic libertarianism, but some cons I know like him best just for that....but are bothered....I mean really dismayed at his ostensibly anti-war stance. Never really knew just how important the hawkish views are to some. Weird.
MichaelMcGuire
(1,684 posts)I've been trying to get this out of my head, since a friend shared it with me
You've just reminded me
Rex
(65,616 posts)No public oversight in private business and no funding for public works of any kind. A real nutball.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)zeke67
(8 posts)We need to get out there with a plan and start changing people's minds before it gets out of control...f'n crazy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/turnstyle/why-young-liberals-like-m_b_1181427.html
Why Young Liberals, Like Me, Will Vote Ron Paul
CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa -- I've lived in Iowa my whole life, and as a senior political science major at Coe College, I understand the importance of being politically active. But the moves made recently by President Obama and Congress, coupled with some of the outrageous statements made by mainstream Republican candidates, have me nervous as the Iowa caucus fast approaches; whom can I vote for? Not a president who believes it is OK to assassinate American citizens overseas, or a president who would repeal all of the progress made to protect the environment and the rights of gays. Third party? Or just don't vote - a show of no confidence, like the Occupy Movement was doing? Then I realized there was a third option.
I worried about breaking the news to my friend Reid, a hard core liberal.
"Don't be mad at me," I told him, "but I'm afraid I have to vote Republican this coming election."
"Me too," said Reid. "I'm sure not voting for Obama -- I'm voting Ron Paul."
 My jaw dropped. Reid said that although he supported Obama in 2008, he has followed the Texas Congressman for years. He was the only candidate he felt hadn't lied to us and has the voting record to prove it. "And I'm sorry, I don't want to be declared a terrorist and 'disappear' in the middle of the night," Reid said.
Reid and I had been involved in the Occupy Cedar Rapids movement together, me silently documenting, him actively participating. I knew he was angry about Obama's new budget plan. I just never expected him to lean Republican.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Perfect!!