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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 10:21 PM Jun 2018

So, you found out Steve Schmidt is a Republican?

I have no idea what some of you assumed. When Trump began his reign, there were certain people in the GOP who opposed him from the start. A couple of others are Ana Navarro and Evan McMullin.
They have consistently harsh critics of Trump and scathing in their comments. I NEVER assumed they were suddnly going to change their long-held views on many policies and I doubt if they thought those of us on the left would either.

What was immediately clear to many of us even before the election was that Trump was going to try to run roughshod over the Constitution and impose his own views by circumventing the normal procedures set in place to deal with issues. He would do his best to become a dictator and do lasting damage to the US in any number of areas. That has been proven true and has been much worse than some imagined.

I was and am willing to work with Schmidt, Navarro and others to try to thwart him and use any method to defeat his proposals. He is a grave danger to democracy and we need every single person we can muster to oppose him. Lawd, even George Will openly said to vote for Democrats. If that doesn’t tell you how dangerous they think he is on every level, nothing will. In addition, they have gone after those assholes like that post turtle McConnell who aid Trump with their support of his methods.
I welcome the day when we can again fight with Schmidt and others about policy 24/7 without the worry that the country will come apart. We feel like that at times during our fighting with them, but it has become crystal clear that Trump is on a completely different and scarier level than anybody we have ever encountered in office.

No I am not going to hold hands, sing Kumbaya, and blithely vote against everything I have worked for. I will make common cause with them to DEFEAT TRUMP AND HIS ENABLERS. We are never going to reach his 30% hard core moronic supporters. However, the presence of Schmidt and others who vocally and harshly condemn him can reach that crucial group who have or are changing their minds about him. The opposition to Trump by those who that group have respected and followed can make it easier for that crucial group to also not just change but to add their voices to resist him.
I say they are crucial because as I have stated, we need every person we can find to openly dump Trump. When it shakes out and hopefully we start bitching at them again we will be looking at the opposition composed of the usual asshole attitudes we have always dealt with but who are not openly committing treason without a second thought.

I never in my life thought I would be fighting alonside of a Schmidt or a Navarro because we ae facing a clear and present danger that makes it easy to see who really believes in this country’s founding principles.

So, you can go about your business as if it is the usual bs we ae dealing with and pretend it’s just a SNAFU. It is so much worse than that. I really don’t expect for anything to appear to be normal again in my lifetime. I do hope I can feel that we are on the right path again and trying to undo the damage caused by Trump.

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So, you found out Steve Schmidt is a Republican? (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Jun 2018 OP
Actually He Formally Announced He Left The Party Me. Jun 2018 #1
WAS quickesst Jun 2018 #2
Make up a name or whatever. Are_grits_groceries Jun 2018 #3
Your opinion..... quickesst Jun 2018 #9
Steve Schmidt calls the, present, Republican GWC58 Jun 2018 #4
My simple belief quickesst Jun 2018 #10
I have known a few republicans who left the party 15 to 30 years ago Hamlette Jun 2018 #5
I see many posts ... Whiskeytide Jun 2018 #6
One of the things I have explained to my relatives and others Are_grits_groceries Jun 2018 #8
Exactly, I'm not going to support them if they run for elected office JI7 Jun 2018 #7

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
3. Make up a name or whatever.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 10:37 PM
Jun 2018

I think he is still what we once considered the core of the GOP. The GOP as presented now has essentially become Trumpkins. That group is one I want NOTHING to do with. A lot of them are my family. They have shown how far they will go and what beliefs they will willingly set aside to hold on to hate. I will never have anything to do with them.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
9. Your opinion.....
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 09:18 AM
Jun 2018

..... and we're all free to express them. I don't think he will ever return the republican party for the simple fact that it will never again be the republican party he believed in, which is just another opinion.

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
4. Steve Schmidt calls the, present, Republican
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 11:07 PM
Jun 2018

Party “the party of Trump.” He was a Republican for 30 years until, finally, calling it quits last week. Steve Schmidt is now a registered Independent. He said the only party that can save the Union is the Democratic Party. Same with George Will. I believe Rick Wilson is in that camp, too.👍🏻

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
10. My simple belief
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 09:36 AM
Jun 2018

If a republican or former republican says vote Democrat and Democrats respond with "f*** you", one has to ask themselves, why are these "Democrats" trying so hard to minimalize these outspoken conservative voices who are urging republicans to vote for Democrats in order to save the Union?

Hamlette

(15,408 posts)
5. I have known a few republicans who left the party 15 to 30 years ago
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 11:19 PM
Jun 2018

and they have been with us ever sense. 100%. One is John Cole of Balloon-juice. One is my father who was as far left as you can get. I'm willing to extend a welcoming hand but keep an eye on them.

Whiskeytide

(4,459 posts)
6. I see many posts ...
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 11:41 PM
Jun 2018

... complaining “how can decent republicans keep silent about the Orange asshole?” But when one speaks out against him, it’s “screw him, where was he/she during the campaign, she’s still a republican at heart, and they helped create this monster”!

I see Trump as an egregious, narcicistiic, incompetent, petulant, emotionally damaged jag-off with virtually no redeeming value whatsoever. None. If a republican has begun to see some of that as well, even if they were blind to it in the past, I’m glad. Why should I piss on them just to make myself feel better or superior? What does that accomplish?

I think Schmidt is a smart guy and sometimes entertaining pundit. I don’t agree with most of what he’s dedicated his life to, but he’s probably more tolerable than many Republicans - especially in this new Trumpland we live in. He still has a lot of atoning to do for the Palin curse he wrought on the country, but I’m happy to just have another voice flinging a little feces at Trump.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
8. One of the things I have explained to my relatives and others
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 12:07 AM
Jun 2018

is the fact that I have disliked Trump since the 1980s. I didn’t even know if he was a Dem or GOPer. I would see him in the news from time to time with politicians from either party.

I found him then to be a toad with no ethical values. There was a magazine called “Spy” which was like a version of “MAD” magazine. They were always going after him for some loathsome thing that had done. They gave Trump a nickname for the ages. He was a “short-fingered vulgarian.” That left a mark.

JI7

(89,241 posts)
7. Exactly, I'm not going to support them if they run for elected office
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 11:46 PM
Jun 2018

I don't even need to be their friend.

But as long as trump is in office andf they agree with me in stopping him i welcome them and anyone on that goal.

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