Where is madfloridian?

[Horse with no Name]

Have I just been missing her stuff because I really miss her stuff.

[proud2BlibKansan]

1. She still posts at DU2

She chose not to come to DU3.

[Horse with no Name]

2. We can still access DU2?

I didn't realize that. Thanks.

[NYC_SKP]

6. She posts at Kos as floridagal.

http://www.dailykos.com/blog/floridagal

And here's a link to DU2:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=greatest_threads&topten=1

[lonestarnot]

7. Nope don't think so.

[ailsagirl]

13. Here is her profile on kos

http://www.dailykos.com/user/floridagal

[HiPointDem]

33. last time i checked we could.

[karynnj]

54. Yes - and the search engine there still works

This is a major asset as many things "disappear" elsewhere - so for some 2004 - 2008 articles, the 4 paragraph quote on DU2 is all that exists.

[Raster]

3. how do we do this?

[pinboy3niner]

4. Link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=latest_threads

[NYC_SKP]

8. I love that place...

Nicest moderators in town!

[amandabeech]

37. I just went over there.

Some people I miss here are still posting there, so I'll go back.

Also saw some names that have completely disappeared. I was off line during the latter parts of 2010 and nearly all 2011. DU has changed a lot since 2010.

[LiberalAndProud]

5. Here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/

[LWolf]

44. I didn't even know DU2 was "live."

I've spent little time at DU3, myself.

[Horse with no Name]

9. Thanks all.

She is one of my most favorites.

[snot]

10. I miss her, too.

She and Hannah Bell were my best sources re- the ongoing conservative takeover of education. (Hannah Bell was tombstoned.)

[keroro gunsou]

15. why

was hannah bell TS'd?

[snot]

17. I'm not sure; only realized it myself recently. When I researched it, I found this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1211325#1211355 .

[sabrina 1]

25. Good question. Hannah was a favorite of many people here. Madfloridian is on Twitter and

has gathered quite a following there. I get her tweets so can keep up with here there. A lot of favorite DUers are no longer here sadly

I think a lot of people are moving to the social media where it's more possible to talk about issues without having to deal with those who want to censor everything but what they think people ought to be talking about. I wish I knew where Hannah is posting these days. She made DU a lot more interesting.

This is Madfloridian's twitter account https://twitter.com/madfloridian

[snot]

31. thank you. Madfloridian . . .

is still here; see http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian

[dionysus]

65. defending North Korea, basically.

[1monster]

11. So why are there two DUs? In the other change overs that was not possible.

DU3 with all of its bells and whistles is not as good as DU2 WAS, because we've left behind so many great members. We need to merger the two DUs somehow.

[eridani]

26. DU2 is a very valuable archive. n/t

[snot]

32. The only thing I like better about DU3

is that I think, overall, getting rid of "unrec"'s was worth it. I admit I miss being able to unrec stuff I don't like; but unrec's made it far too easy for trolls/r-wing sock puppets to tank valuable OP's (I documented several instances).

[Starry Messenger]

14. I miss her too.

I read her at kos but really loved having her voice at DU2.

[Odin2005]

16. She got paranoid that DU3 was a DLC conspiracy to silence us Progressives.

She's still haunting DU2 like a ghost.

[sabrina 1]

27. Actually she moved to the Social Media where she is gathering a very big following. Something

a lot of people are doing now as they can focus on the issues without being attacked constantly, there is no censorship, they control their own following and who they choose to follow.

Who wants to deal with the constant, and now so very old, 'snark' and insults when they can get their message to far more people without all of that? It does take work to build a following as Madfloridian is doing, but she always worked hard so why not do it for herself now?

This is her twitter account. https://twitter.com/madfloridian She is doing great, I remember asking her to sign up on twitter as what she writes is so important and she had no idea how it worked. Now she's becoming a twitter star! It didn't take her long.

I miss her here, she added a lot to DU. But so long as we can still find her, I'm happy for that at least.

[Tunkamerica]

28. twitter doesn't have snark? since when?!

[sabrina 1]

29. Only if you want to engage such people. You have control over your own account. I guess you're not

familiar with Twitter. Some people enjoy taking on the morons, but others simply block them. Iow, it is your choice.

[Tunkamerica]

49. can't you do that here too?

[sabrina 1]

50. No, not really. Even if you put people on ignore here, it doesn't stop them from

following people around, going into your threads and derailing for other people.

On Twitter they simply have to go bother someone else if you don't want to deal with them. As I said, some people enjoy interacting with morons, and often do it so they can expose their stupidity to as many people as possible, so you have that choice.

[fascisthunter]

59. very true

I come here less because the rules give cover to professional dips hits who want to keep the 1% comfy.

[SidDithers]

62. Yes, you can...nt

Sid

[sabrina 1]

70. I think you just proved, that 'no you can't'!

And 'You Better Believe It'!

[nadinbrzezinski]

39. It's easier to block

[HiPointDem]

34. that's great. i hope she is able to inform more people about what's happening in education.

[Iggo]

18. She didn't make the trip.

[NCTraveler]

19. When I was lurking I always looked for her posts.

She brought forward lots of inside information with respect to education. She also had deep insight to the Florida education system.

[Reader Rabbit]

23. Same here.

Sadly, I think she got tired of all the teacher-bashing.

[Luminous Animal]

57. I think she (rightly) understood that critizing Obama's education policies on DU3

would result in a swarm of personal attacks and smearing by innuendo. In my opinion, she made a good move to Kos and Twitter.

[senseandsensibility]

72. That's too bad.

The only thing that should matter is the facts she used and the strength of her ideas. I was
very impressed with both.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

42. She's one of the few whose OPs I *always* tended to read.

For the right reasons -- not looking-for-a-trainwreck reasons.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

20. On a self-righteous bender.

After she continously apologized for the proposition that my vote shouldn't count, I can't say I miss her. Truly one of DU's worst.

[Tarheel_Dem]

41. +1

[HiPointDem]

47. -1

[Le Taz Hot]

48. Gee, I can't for the life of me

figure out why she chose not to make the move.

-2

[SidDithers]

56. +2...nt

Sid

[sabrina 1]

60. Definitely one of DU's best and now with a bigger audience, much appreciated by many more

people. Love that fact that her work is now being seen by such a large audience as it deserves to be. Education is one of the most important issues in any civilized country and madfloridian does a superb job of keeping people informed about what is going on in that field.

[Zorra]

21. Yeah, she was a huge asset to DU. Here ~

Like far too many of DU's best posters of the past, she was too progressive, thoughtful, and well reasoned for the DLC/Third Way "too long; could not read" - soundbytes only, please" crowd, and was very distressed and disappointed by DU's shift to the right over the past 3 years

A 9 yr DU journey...going from too moderate to too liberal to fit in.

[sabrina 1]

30. Good post, and I agree, people are being driven away, or I guess I should say are choosing

to move on as Madfloridian has done. Her threads were often flooded with the usual nastiness coming from the corporate shills who support everything being privatized. Now she is doing great and reaching probably far more people through her Twitter account which I posted a link to above.

I'm so proud of how she built up her following so far and is reaching a whole lot of people without the aggravation she had to put up with here, which was a shame. And the more forums like this become flooded with Third Wayers, the more people will turn to using the Social Media once they realize how effective it is and how in control of your own work you are. Which is sad, because I had, and still do to an extent, very high hopes for this form of communication. But who needs the nastiness really? Life is too full of more positive things.

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. Yup...

And more and more will do that. This tells me this is on purpose...no other possible explanation...Occam's razor.

[Missycim]

22. Why wont

they shut down the old DU2?

[Rhiannon12866]

24. Because DU.3 still links to it and there's a lot of information there.

[pinboy3niner]

35. I think the original idea was to lock it, but keep the archive accessible

My guess is that the admins are reluctant to lock it while it still gets a significant amount of active use.

The lock may come at some point, but it seems that the admins are bending over backward not to shut out those who are actively using DU2.

I doubt they expected that it would continue this long, but more power to the admins for their tolerance.

[davidpdx]

36. I knew it was accessible to look at old posts, but never knew people were still posting there

It's like another parallel dimension exists.

[Jakes Progress]

38. MF was the best.

Her logic and research were sound and drove the acolytes crazy. They could only call her names and avoid the issues she discussed.

Actually her sound voice is still available at the places mentioned elsewhere in this thread.

The fact that she isn't here is one sign that the DU shift was bad. Democrats need a conscience like her. Without that kind of even keel and sound liberal beliefs, the party drifts ever rightward and voting Democratic becomes a less noble thing to do.

Love you Mad.

[senseandsensibility]

43. I agree.

I miss her, and I wish she would post here for those of us that don't do twitter.

[Jakes Progress]

45. Yep.

I understand why she would avoid taking the low-intelligence crap that she might get here though. She used to try to teach people, but got a lot of flak for being honest and smart.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

53. Well that and telling people that their vote wasn't important.

Which was even worse given that we apparently are from the same state.

[Jakes Progress]

55. Did she hurtems little feelings sometime?

I know it's hard to get past the "rah rah team" and "yeah our team" level of political thought, but there are some who can actually rad things and think about them and try to debate. Me? I don't care if you get educated. But Mad. She tried her best even when her detractors made up shit and huffed and puffed and avoided thought altogether.

[sabrina 1]

46. She also posts on DU2. I think there is a link somewhere in this thread.

She's attracting a lot of attention on twitter, but to use twitter she needs to post on another forum and then link to those posts from twitter. So she posts on Daily Kos and links to those posts on twitter. She also forwards other people's work to her twitter followers who then pass all of this on to their followers and so on. So she is reaching a pretty big audience now.

Twitter is easy to use, it's a great source of instant news and to keep up with interesting people, like MF or journalists etc. You don't have to use it the way madfloridian is doing, you can just use it as a news source and to promote other people's work. For now that is how I use it.

[patrice]

51. Not an attack. Just an honest question: Leave everything the same but reverse one fact in thisthread

Reverse the polarity that is ascribed to MadFlordian, just hypothetically, leave all of the skills and rational traits that you ascribe to her and hypothetically place her on that other evil side, working that "3rd way"/DLC evilness. All the same information, just from a different perspective, the other perspective. How would you all characterize that?

More to the point: What are the solutions????

I don't know much about attacks and I can already figure why some people think that might be. But what matters to me more than this us-against-them crap that BOTH sides feed here at DU is that it's ALL about stuff other than solutions.

It is claimed that the baddies, whoever they are from one's own perspective, are ALL about only bad stuff, in this case mostly relative to education. It is assumed that there are no solutions from "the baddies" only more evilness. It's all waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too ideological for many of us, including me.

I love good information. What I don't love is feeding the beast, feeding that attack counter-attack energy based upon these exclusive notions that the truth belongs to one and only one perspective so all of the tasks are about EXCLUDING whatever the baddies have to contribute, even if that turns out to be some useful stuff.

I don't love feeding the beast and, yet, I know because I do not conform to the praise heaped upon these adversarial relationships in these threads, I and anyone like me, especially anyone this clique identifies as being a nasty 3rd-wayer, are bad people according to you all. HOW IS THAT NOT PREJUDICE? How is it not damaging to the very thing that someones are claiming is so important that we must __________________ for it in the first place?

I probably don't know the bill of indictment in the particular case to which this thread refers, but on general principles I am skeptical about anything that characterizes others en masse as the badddies, when many of them are really just like me. We see a different way to accomplish the same things that some people who hate, 3rd way or whatever, say they value.

People ARE DIFFERENT. They see things in different ways. Is that not your basic claim for justice against all of those 3rd way and other baddie evilness you see out there? If you have your right to whatever your differences are, WHY DON'T THOSE WHO DIFFER FROM YOU???

I'm sorry, MadFloridian's very real benefits aside, the truth is that I cannot perceive how you all are not just very much like the fascists that you say you oppose. I admit I could be wrong about this, but I'd bet that's more than I am going to get out of anyone in this thread.

I REALLY would like to support you more, but honesty about prejudice and the damaging effects of good intentions founded in prejudice, prevents me from doing so.

[AtomicKitten]

52. She's perfectly free to post here if she wants.

You can find her on DU2, kos, and the 'tree' site receptacle for TS'd DUers.

[dionysus]

66. "tie a yellow ribbon 'round the old elm tree..."

[Panasonic]

73. Do I respond...

"Fa-la-la-la-la-la"?

[MineralMan]

58. She appears to be posting regularly at

a site named for an old species of tree. I noticed the name there recently.

[sabrina 1]

61. She posts on Daily Kos, Twitter where her audience is growing daily and she is reaching

far more people than she did here and as many sites as she is allowed to post on.

Was there some reason why you left out all the other places she posts besides this 'tree' site you mentioned? Can you post the name of the site you are referring to?

She uses all these sites as a base for her Twitter account. Did you know that in order to use Twitter effectively to promote your own work, you need to have a base to place your articles. madfloridian now has several of those bases, including DU2 btw.

So thrilled for her that her work is now being seeing all over the internet. She made a good decision as her work is way too important to be subjected to the usual, and always the same, group of disrupters. She's free of that now and I absolutely love getting tweets forwarding her work to me which I then forward again.

I noticed she's been picked up on Twitter by some impressive people in the field of Education also.

Mmm, I edited this post to remove the name of the site since it was just an assumption on my part and to replace it with a question. But the reason for the edit did not show up for some reason.

[MineralMan]

64. The Daily KOS and Twitter information is already in the thread.

I posted about another place where she posts. I didn't leave any out. They were already posted in the thread, and I simply didn't duplicate them.

I don't follow madfloridian on any of the places she posts. Education issues are not a major interest of mine, except as they apply locally. I mentioned seeing her on OET, because I noticed it the other day. OET is pretty much dead these days, so I don't read there much any more.

Thank you for your attention to my posts. It's heartening to see that people are reading them.

[sabrina 1]

68. The attention to your posts by me is very limited. I respond to posts as I come across them

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and if something strikes me as odd about a post eg, or interesting, I respond to it. Yours struck me as odd. So I asked. I did edit the name of the site as it occurred to me I might have been wrong to assume and instead asked for the name of the site you sort of mentioned as if it might be some kind of problem. Apparently I was not wrong. There is nothing nefarious btw, as far as I know about madfloridian posting anywhere she wishes, including at OET.

Her biggest success however is her Twitter account, amazing number of followers in such a short time so I am happy about that. Education is one of the most important issues for Democrats and always has been. Without a good education system, a country will fail. Democrats have always understood that. Republicans, not so much.

OET btw, was also mentioned above. Just FYI.

[dionysus]

63. i'd guess the old elm tree.

[MineralMan]

67. Yes, she's there, too, posting a series of articles

about education, I think. I saw that section the other day. I don't read any of the blogs there, though. Since they've stopped whining about DU, I don't bother visiting the site more than once a week.

[Panasonic]

74. Old Elm Tree

has pretty much quieted down on the DU bashing, focusing on something else.

I've visited there a couple of times. It's a nice little place if you want to unwind, honestly.

Some of the best DU'ers do hang out over there sometimes. Even Blue_in_AK is a member there, and she is very well-respected here.

[sabrina 1]

69. And Daily Kos, Twitter, DU2 and I believe, FB. She's everywhere now!

AND making quite a name for herself.

[Skip Intro]

71. .

wait, maybe "elm tree" is a reference to something I'm not familiar with...

The song says "oak tree" though

...