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Maybe Uncle Ben was right: With great power comes great responsibility. While most students at the famed Massachusetts Institute of Technology use their powers for good, for example creating drugs that can fight any virus, others are busily using their prodigious math skills to game the state of Massachusetts lottery system, earning millions of dollars in the process.
Several years ago, while doing research for a school project, a group of MIT students realized that, for a few days every three months or so, the most reliably lucrative lottery game in the country was Massachusetts Cash WinFall, due to a quirk in the way a jackpot was broken down into smaller prizes if there was no big winner. The math whizzes quickly discovered that buying about $100,000 in Cash WinFall tickets on those days would virtually guarantee success. Buying $600,000 worth of tickets would bring a 15-20 percent return on investment, according to the New York Daily News.
Read more: http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/08/07/how-mit-students-scammed-the-massachusetts-lottery-for-8-million/#ixzz22sE2GXrK
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... and a con for those who are good, and have a stake.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)But who, among us, has not fantasized what it would be like to come across a fantastic fortune? And if, the cost to realize that fantasy is a buck or two ... Why not?
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... and daydream about financial security for my family and a foundation to help folks in poverty.
Sadly, I see a whole lot of folks buy a whole lot of tickets that I know for a fact they can't afford.
RKP5637
(67,102 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)when I can afford a few bucks.
When the inevitable snotty person tells me I'm just throwing away my money
I ask them how much does a movie cost? and how long does it last?
for just a few bucks I can daydream for a couple of days on what I would do
with all that money.
Great bang for my entertainment buck.
And pretty much shuts up the snots.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)game in the casinos. Deep down, you know the vig is horrible but it's so much friggin' fun to do it just once or twice
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Speaking of "sucker bets" ...
Living in Tucson, I am within 40 minutes of 4 Casinoes. Every couple of weeks Mrs. 1StrongBlackMan and I spend a couple hours (and dollars) in them.
Once, BabyGirl 1StrongBlackMan asked, "Dad ... Why do you go to the casino? It's like meeting someone on the street who says, 'Hey, if you give me $100, I MIGHT give you $10,000; but then again, I PROBABLY won't give you a penny!'"
I laughed at the absurd truth in the statement ... and told her to go to bed!
RKP5637
(67,102 posts)Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)....hell of a good point there. Really. The manipulation of currencies, precious metals. The manipulation of balance sheets and assets. And what cannot be covered up can be ameliorated through bought and paid for politicians writing bespoke legislation. It makes a story like this pale in comparison. Of course, stories like this unintentionally cement the idea that bigger, grander and far more abusive manipulations aren't going on all the goddamned time on a corporate and banking level- which, they are.
PB
RC
(25,592 posts)Thanks a lot for spreading the word.
That said, It doesn't look like a scam to me. The students just found a flaw and exploited it. They did nothing wrong. It is up to whoever runs the lottery to fix the quirk.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)There is no scam is buying enough tickets to move the odds more into your favor. Groups have been doing that for decades.
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)PB
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)It's just like card counting. Casinos hate math. Apparently lotteries do too.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,173 posts)Alduin
(501 posts)Hell, even the law says it's not illegal.
surrealAmerican
(11,360 posts)... needs to hire a new mathematician to manage its lottery odds.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)the prize pool just keeps getting larger until someone wins.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)nt
surrealAmerican
(11,360 posts)... but I also wonder if profitability for the state should be the only criteria used in designing a lottery.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)continue running a game that had been cracked. When/if it became clear to lottery officials that the game was flawed, then it should have been either shut down or corrected immediately. To continue running such a game is tantamount to aiding the exploitation of disadvantaged players, thus reducing published odds.
That said, I also see nothing wrong in what the students did, from a player's perspective.
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)PB
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)goclark
(30,404 posts)and our family went to Vegas all the time.
He would win at least 90% of the time.
His theory was -- " If you don't bet, you can't win."
When he rolled the dice, the table was magical!
Other players would wait for him to get to roll again.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)professional gamblers who have been banned from Vegas casinos, though I believe casinos in Atlantic City are prohibited, by law, from banning players who are merely lucky.
goclark
(30,404 posts)In fact, the hotel would " Comp" our rooms
Another part of the story is that my dad was a physician and African American.
AA's were not allowed to go to Hotels on the Strip, only down town.
One of my dad's friends knew the head Bellman and he got the management of the hotel to invite about ten physicians to come to the hotel with their families.
It was a day to remember!
We were dressed up ( hats, gloves, fancy clothes) and the families formed a long line. The bellman was so thrilled when he opened the door for us -- tears were running down his cheeks.
From that day forward, we were warmly welcomed and that is how African Americans got into Vegas Hotels.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)It's not used in the title of the Time article.
There was no scamming involved, just good data analysis, statistics and probability. The students did nothing illegal.
Sid
Tony_FLADEM
(3,023 posts)GodlessBiker
(6,314 posts)You should be ashamed.
Tony_FLADEM
(3,023 posts)Iggo
(47,547 posts)goclark
(30,404 posts)Things like that happen around here ~ thanks for posting the article.