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blindpig

(11,292 posts)
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 01:58 PM Jan 2012

The Wasteland of Democratic Party Politics


The Wasteland of Democratic Party Politics

There is no drama in the Democratic Party, this election year. The Democratic domain is a dead zone that has had all the oxygen sucked out of it by Obamaism.

Of course, Obamaism is simply Clintonism with a darker face.

Bill Clinton was the first Democratic Leadership Council President. Al Gore would have been the second, if George Bush had not stolen the 2000 election through massive disenfranchisement of Black voters in the Sunshine State.

Gore did not see fit to contest the election based on the theft of hundreds of thousands of Black Florida votes. Instead, he hitched his fortunes to hanging chads and a Republican-dominated U.S. Supreme Court.

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The Wasteland of Democratic Party Politics (Original Post) blindpig Jan 2012 OP
"Of course, Obamaism is simply Clintonism with a darker face" Lisa D Jan 2012 #1
FYI... blindpig Jan 2012 #5
This ProSense Jan 2012 #7
Perhaps you should alter your OP Betty Karlson Jan 2012 #11
and why was that (in both cases)? Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #22
Gore did challenge the election theft.... midnight Jan 2012 #2
Writer says specifically -- Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2012 #14
Ok he did not contest it... I love historic revisionism nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #3
The author says Gore didn't contest it on the grounds of Black disenfranchisement deutsey Jan 2012 #39
It's hard to believe that the guys sufrommich Jan 2012 #4
So Obama is a more effective evil than the Republicans? DevonRex Jan 2012 #6
It's ProSense Jan 2012 #8
Oh dear. DevonRex Jan 2012 #9
..and i just happened to be reading Marxism Leninism Today while in my study... dionysus Jan 2012 #33
Yes, don't we ALL subscribe to Marxism-Leninism Today? DevonRex Jan 2012 #34
well, i myself, read it after The Daily Mao, but i save The Pol Pot Weekly for right before bed.... dionysus Jan 2012 #37
wish a hint of Fascism roused as much response as a hint of Marxism......nt dougolat Jan 2012 #16
Well, ProSense Jan 2012 #18
Obama stopped? hardly...we need him to put the metaphorical torch of human dignity... dougolat Jan 2012 #38
'fraid so.. blindpig Jan 2012 #12
Social Security is always on the table JoePhilly Jan 2012 #13
Imagine that ProSense Jan 2012 #17
Its going to be interesting to watch the perpetual screamers go apoplectic ... JoePhilly Jan 2012 #20
I expect the president to be re-elected. blindpig Jan 2012 #23
That is also what I think is likely to happen. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #24
Um, what about the rest of it? blindpig Jan 2012 #28
If you think the 2 parties are the same, which you seeem to suggest ... JoePhilly Jan 2012 #31
I hear many Democrats expressing similar views. K&R (nt) T S Justly Jan 2012 #10
Who? Poseurs on DU? great white snark Jan 2012 #30
From Glen Ford. Who thinks Obama should be impeached... SidDithers Jan 2012 #15
Just one sad and transparent attempt to depress Dem turn out. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #21
vaht? i wish i had a candy heart to give this OP... dionysus Jan 2012 #27
I see. Really? MineralMan Jan 2012 #19
Idiotic Inuca Jan 2012 #25
ROFL, nice source... the comrades are such a hoot. dionysus Jan 2012 #26
Look a little deeper..... blindpig Jan 2012 #29
..wasteland = republicans spanone Jan 2012 #32
The marxist parties are thriving, I see. killbotfactory Jan 2012 #35
Are you trying to deflect ... frazzled Jan 2012 #36
(headdesk) WilliamPitt Jan 2012 #40
 

blindpig

(11,292 posts)
5. FYI...
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 02:09 PM
Jan 2012

The writer is Glenn Ford of Black Agenda Report. I think the comparison is just, both have taken their administrations decidely to the right.
 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
11. Perhaps you should alter your OP
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 02:30 PM
Jan 2012

and state the name (and position with the BAR) of the author as the first line in your article.

The "darker face" line could be interpreted as crypto-racism.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,406 posts)
22. and why was that (in both cases)?
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 04:09 PM
Jan 2012

Anybody?

Might it have something to do with the lack of control of one or both Houses of Congress after a miniscule 2 years?

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
14. Writer says specifically --
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 02:58 PM
Jan 2012

Gore did not challenge it on the grounds of disenfranchisement of blacks that occurred, but on a technical glitch -- what the writer stated is true.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
3. Ok he did not contest it... I love historic revisionism
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 02:03 PM
Jan 2012

he took it all the way to the Supreme Court. The next step would have been an armed insurrection. You really wanted to go there?

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
39. The author says Gore didn't contest it on the grounds of Black disenfranchisement
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 03:10 PM
Jan 2012

"Gore did not see fit to contest the election based on the theft of hundreds of thousands of Black Florida votes. Instead, he hitched his fortunes to hanging chads and a Republican-dominated U.S. Supreme Court."

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
4. It's hard to believe that the guys
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 02:05 PM
Jan 2012

over at Marxist - Leninism Today hate democrats so much. My feelings are hurt.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
6. So Obama is a more effective evil than the Republicans?
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 02:16 PM
Jan 2012

Quote from Marxism-Leninism Today, to which you linked:

"The Republicans are ugly, nasty and evil. President Obama is the most attractive and articulate servant of Wall Street and war – and, therefore, an even more effective evil."

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
34. Yes, don't we ALL subscribe to Marxism-Leninism Today?
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 07:28 PM
Jan 2012

I read mine at the kitchen table, though. It would be so elitist to have a study, wouldn't it?

Happy New Year!

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
37. well, i myself, read it after The Daily Mao, but i save The Pol Pot Weekly for right before bed....
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 07:38 PM
Jan 2012

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
18. Well,
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 03:02 PM
Jan 2012

"wish a hint of Fascism roused as much response as a hint of Marxism....."

...clearly Obama must be stopped at all cost, even if Fascism is the end result. I'm sure the Republican brand of Fascism is more to the liking of those who will spend the next ten months campaigning against him.



dougolat

(716 posts)
38. Obama stopped? hardly...we need him to put the metaphorical torch of human dignity...
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 03:05 PM
Jan 2012

and the rule of law back on the Statue of Liberty, in place of the assault weapon the last decade has sullied it with.
To me, the point about "a more effective evil" refers to the despair engendered when the cops show up, but the crime continues.
Not addressing the war-crimes, nor the financial crimes, in terms of vigorous investigation and prosecution, indicates that the financial elites thusly profiting, have immunity. That is Fascistic, isn't it?
In the endeavor to perfect ourselves, this enshrines these crimes, and encourages more.
That does seem to qualify as a pretty effective evil; granted not greater.
Don't we want to be an inspiration, rather than a belligerent exporter of war and dishonest financial practices?
I'm not campaigning against Obama, we really need him, but my bumper sticker is upside-down, like the flag of distress.

 

blindpig

(11,292 posts)
12. 'fraid so..
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 02:48 PM
Jan 2012

A Republican would be pilloried for the handling of the Gulf tragedy, for putting Social Security on the bargaining table, for the Afghanistan 'surge', for billions for bankers, for health care which enshrines profit....

The Republicans look on, making some necessary noise but quite in agreement and profoundly frustrated by having their positions usurped. The extreme 'batshit' of their field is the result, they got no place to go for contrast except over the edge.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
13. Social Security is always on the table
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 02:52 PM
Jan 2012

It exists
The GOP hates it
Its on the table

The claims that Obama plans to kill SS are ridiculous, and even though its been predicted here as IMMINENT every 2 weeks for the last 3 years, nothing has happened.

Its just one more manufactured outrage widget.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
17. Imagine that
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 02:59 PM
Jan 2012

"The claims that Obama plans to kill SS are ridiculous"

...the claims are now being used to characterize Obama as more evil than the GOP.

Maybe these people should consider voting Republican to save us. Actually, it's clear they have no intention of voting for Obama.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
20. Its going to be interesting to watch the perpetual screamers go apoplectic ...
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 04:07 PM
Jan 2012

As it becomes more and more clear that Obama is going to be re-elected.

 

blindpig

(11,292 posts)
23. I expect the president to be re-elected.
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 05:13 PM
Jan 2012

And I think there's a good chance that the Republicans will blow up.

With the Republicans in chaos it only remains for a continuation of this administration to complete the destruction of the Democratic 'brand' and it's long defunct association with the New Deal.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
24. That is also what I think is likely to happen.
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 05:19 PM
Jan 2012

In fact, I think its a great reason to get excited about Obama.

If after all of their efforts to demonize him, their willingness to destroy the country to remove him, the birthers, the racists, the catering to the 1% ... if all of that fails, and Obama gets re-elected ... the GOP's implosion continues, and probably accelerates.

The GOP spent the last 30 years trying to destroy the middle class, using war, and gays, and god, and guns, as distractions ... if they FAIL now ... they should splinter even more than they have during their primary.

Which would be a great thing for the country.

 

blindpig

(11,292 posts)
28. Um, what about the rest of it?
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 05:56 PM
Jan 2012

Methinks your response selective.

The 1% needn't worry in the short term, the Dems got their backs.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
19. I see. Really?
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 03:15 PM
Jan 2012

C'mon up to Minnesota and go through our caucus system. It's not dead or a wasteland.

Much too broad an indictment, if you ask me.

Inuca

(8,945 posts)
25. Idiotic
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 05:29 PM
Jan 2012

I miss the unrec button, it helped in blowing some of the steam generated by posts like this.

 

blindpig

(11,292 posts)
29. Look a little deeper.....
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 05:59 PM
Jan 2012

It's linked from Black Agenda Report. The comrades have selected a fine comentator in this case, Ford has been all over Obama since day 1.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
36. Are you trying to deflect ...
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 07:37 PM
Jan 2012

from all the discussion of the Republican Party, and what a wasteland it is? Because of all evenings, this is the one where all eyes are turned toward the Republicans. And yet you choose to post a screed about what a wasteland the Democratic Party is.

It seems rather desperate and diversionary to me, on this of all nights.

Resume your Democrat-bashing tomorrow. Tonight is a night to bash Republicans.

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