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Morgan Stanley connives with electricity generators to scam $300 million from consumers.
Morgan Stanley makes $21.6 million from the scam.
Department of "Justice" only asks for $4.8 million fine.
Judge says "This sucks, DOJ should have asked for more but since they didn't I'll OK this."
Morgan Stanley pockets $16.8 million. The $4.8 million goes to Treasury, where it helps keep taxes on the wealthiest Americans at one-third of what they used to be. And you, my friend, are fucked again. Fucked again, and nobody cares. Nobody with power anyway.
Enjoy your cat food, schmucks! Your ass is getting Grand Bargained right after the election!
The Way We Are Screwed... And How Come Nobody Goes To Jail ???
samsingh
(17,594 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)were robbed of 300 million.
but as long as obama gets elected, all is well.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Don't you realize there are people out there who through their whole lives have believed that the PTB actually do care about them?
And here you are telling them the truth. Shame!
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)will wake up and say "Oh! My head is being used for batting practice. I think I should do something about this.".
Zorra
(27,670 posts)Zalatix
(8,994 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)People ought to know what's being done tomthem.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)They are laughing at us, as we grow more and more powerless to stop them.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)And I believe that, fundamentally, our ability to create change through voting is still intact.
But we need to wake up and vote smart.
seanpencil
(168 posts)respectfully, why you think that "fundamentally, our ability to create change through voting is still intact"?
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)suck the boots of capital.
what would "voting smart" look like in such a situation?
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)We have two corporate candidates, so voting all by itself is not going to bring change in direction. But as long as they NEED our vote and our general acquiescence to the political process, we still have some leverage to force policy change through protest.
Protests on SOPA mattered, at least briefly. Occupy got them to change the rhetoric, if not the policies. There is some responsiveness when the people start to rumble, and we have not even begun to rumble as loudly as we are capable of rumbling. They spend most of their time and money trying to keep us ignorant of and distracted from what they are doing, because their power, at this point, still depends on a brainwashed public that watches the MSM and believes that they are doing the best they can on our behalf. There are a hell of a lot more of us than them, and they know it.
But they are building surveillance systems and domestic police armies and prisons now, and passing laws that make it possible to pick up anyone suspected of being a threat in some vague way. If we are going to use this leverage, we had better damned well do it soon.
midnight
(26,624 posts)flobee1
(870 posts)and WE have lost
big oil and gas, big pharma, and the monsanto crime family have already paid the people they need to pay to make sure business as usual continues unhindered.
The Obama/Romney race is nothing more than entertainment at this point and works to draw attention away from the massive amounts of money going to the obscenely rich.
The frackers can now just take the land they need, pharma and monsanto are putting god knows what in their products and can wrap anyone who questions or objects in red tape, and still make a profit.
the politicians are owned, the news channels are paid to feed us news the payers want us to see, we don't even hear music on the radio that isn't pre approved by the moneyholders.
and no, I don't know what the solution is.
is there even a solution?
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)tavalon
(27,985 posts)I vote because it's what I do. I no longer believe the system is even remotely uncompromised. It's not quite Soviet Union compromised but when President Carter is requesting international overseeing of our voting system, that really says something to me.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)OP was terrific. Your vote means next to nothing.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)they'll get. But as always, I'm desperately hoping to be completely wrong.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Because is so true. You should just make it an OP all by itself.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)link
Recently began writing the words:
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....in chalk on the sidewalk outside Chase Bank. They arrested him for vandalism. He sent 12 hours in jail before he made bail and he commented - ''I've spent more time in prison than any of the bankers who crashed the world economy through their fraud.''
Marr
(20,317 posts)seanpencil
(168 posts)kenny blankenship
(15,689 posts)Government won't prosecute Goldman Sachs in probe
WASHINGTON The Justice Department said Thursday it won't prosecute Wall Street firm Goldman Sachs or its employees in a financial fraud probe.
The Justice Department's decision capped a good day for Goldman as the Securities and Exchange Commission decided not to file charges against the firm over a $1.3 billion subprime mortgage portfolio. At the same time, the Justice Department's decision ensured that the Obama administration will continue to feel political heat, particularly from the liberal wing of the president's own party, for not having brought more prosecutions in the financial crisis.
The Senate panel probe turned up company emails showing Goldman employees deriding complex mortgage securities sold to banks and other investors as "junk" and "crap."
Levin questioned the accuracy of testimony Goldman Sachs executives gave to Congress about whether the firm steered investors toward mortgage securities it knew likely would fail.
So GS steered investors like pension funds and municipalities into securities they knew were "crap" and "junk" -and secretly bet against them- and the "Justice" Dept can't see the fraud case staring them in the face.
That harsh abrasive sound you hear are rich bankers and their Obama Administration flunkies laughing in your faces.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)I actually thought that there would be some justice for what they did, don't know why I keep hoping like that. Especially since the President said that there was no crime, just a little immorality. From now I will remember that and expect nothing.
That is a disgrace. Imagine an ordinary person doing what they did on a much smaller scale. It was a con job, a Ponzi scheme. The ordinary person would have been arrested, charged and convicted.
Goldman Sachs Rules!
Obviously.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)shoplifting food in Florida.
In her 50 years, this is the first time she has ever broken a law. She should have made stone soup instead I guess.
She will likely die soon anyway, as the Obama's and the Romney's of the world would prefer, with systemic lupus and a series of heart attacks and strokes that have plagued her the past two years, she is the type of criminal that must be hounded until death, she is not "real people" like rich folks are. Just ask Obama or Romney, they both felate bankers and berate the poor.
I am glad Romney was lying about the welfare thing, it is good to know both parties kick the poor equally, I was worried that Obama may have given a shit for almost five minutes before that was all cleared up for me.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)That is so sad. If it is her offense, and considering her medical condition a good attorney should be able to get this charge dismissed maybe with some community service or simply by repaying the cost of the food.
If only the law was applied equally in this country. But unfortunately for now, it is not.
My heart goes out to you and your sister, I will keep her in my thoughts.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)thanks, I think.
sendero
(28,552 posts).... but Obama is in the banker's pockets just like the Republicans are. These sorts of decisions are infuriating and there is simply no other plausible explanation.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Justice Department investigators and prosecutors worked on their inquiry for "more than a year," the statement said.
Those working on the inquiry included officials in the department's Criminal Division and in the U.S. Attorney's Office in Manhattan, the statement said.
They "ultimately concluded that the burden of proof to bring a criminal case could not be met based on the law and facts as they exist at this time," the statement continued.
"If any additional or new evidence emerges, today's assessment does not prevent the department from reviewing such evidence and making a different determination, if warranted," the statement said.
Link: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/09/us-usa-goldman-no-charges-idUSBRE8781LA20120809
pscot
(21,024 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)and for that matter I think my rep and my guv do too.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Power, I'm not so sure of.
That being said, your state is doing great stuff, and proves my thesis wrong. My Commonwealth is not bad, either. But f most of the rest of the country... not so good.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)as for having power,...not so much
cali
(114,904 posts)look at his record in the House and Senate and you'll see. Furthermore, my guv ran on single payer and won and he has power in his sphere and so does Shep Smith, the Leader of the VT House, etc. Of course it's only localized power in the case of Vermont politicians, but it's forging a place that's different than the rest of the country.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Bernie does not. Even with a Dem House, Dem president, and 59 Dem senators, almost no progressive legislation was passed in 2 years. If you listen to Bernie on Hartmann's Friday program, most of the things he (Sanders) believes in are nowhere close to becoming a reality. Glen Beck has far more power than Sanders does.
loansstore
(11 posts)Nice Share I absolutely read this first time
Thanks
xchrom
(108,903 posts)geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)the kind that pays off and buys the government.
midnight
(26,624 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)progressoid
(49,969 posts)It's gonna trickle down any day now.
sendero
(28,552 posts)... the fines are greater (should be several times) the gain and the main perps are sent to prison this crap will continue.
The level of pure corruption in this country is stunning and I don't think most people have the slightest idea it is happening.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Works for the 1-percent's 1-percent. Lovely families - a good small number of whom actually are citizens.
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)hunter
(38,309 posts)...when I'm caught, hell, I'd do it again the next day.
I might do it every day.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Unbelievable.
just1voice
(1,362 posts)Just because they care so much!
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)Agony
(2,605 posts)OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)That kind of talk should be verboten.
Do you want the bad guys to win?
Seriously, though. We're fucked.
Maybe I could start an "American Spring" if I could afford a gallon of gas.
K&R.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)He is a disgrace.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)it must mean something meaningful.... same way a whore shows it's client any real empathy.
moondust
(19,972 posts)raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Well, maybe a tiny percentage. It's easy to find people who are against climate change, war, pollution and the corporate takeover of our government.
Very hard to find people not willing to join in and profit and propagate the issues by supporting Wall St everyday.
TBF
(32,041 posts)Carlin's rant: