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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat caused Romney to finally squeal "uncle"?
He wants the Obama campaign to stop talking about business and tax issues and talk about "real" issues like jobs and deficits. But how can you talk about jobs without talking about businesses? And how can you talk about deficits without talking about taxes? I think what Mitt wants is to stop talking about "his" business and "his" taxes??
There are no more important issues in this campaign than business and taxes. If Mitt can't stand the heat, maybe he ought to get out of the kitchen and go hide behind his Mama's skirt? All this whining and crying is rather unbecoming. But what caused Mitt to want a truce at this time?
In my opinion, the story that broke yesterday about Marriott and the "Son of Boss" was a real hit in the gut for Romney. For the first time, people learned that he had sit on the board for Marriott when they were devising all kinds of schemes to escape paying any taxes. In hindsight, it probably had Mitt's fingerprints all over it? Mitt wasn't punished but Marriott was fined over $70 million dollars for their little scheme. There is a pattern here, folks.
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)So, in essence he's saying don't question my qualifications.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)Hell, Romney was the head of the audit committee of the Marriott board during the Son of Boss tax ripoff.
Curtland1015
(4,404 posts)They just keep getting worse for him and his people can't find an answer for them.
russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)apologists don't know what hit them. They're scrambling to lessen the impact.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)not releasing his returns is going to leave a mark. Huntsman another Mormon come out speaking.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)The Seamus story is enough for me. But, if a person needs more the pension stealing is a good one. That should be illegal. I used to think that when a company bought another company they wanted to make it a success. But, not Romney he saddled companies with debt, most likely hoping they would fail just so he could make a huge salary and huge profits. But, what if this model is actually a failure. What if those companies instead of going under became more profitable? Well we don't know the answer to that, because Romney killed them. Telling how he wants to run from this.
RedStateLiberal
(1,374 posts)It's an attempt to change the narrative to make it look like Obama is bullying him and not talking about the real issues. He knows there's no way the Obama campaign is actually going to let off now.
So, they whine and complain about a controversial ad that the Obama campaign is not really responsible for and the media (who obviously love conflict) cover that.
This truce talk is just more whining in the hope that the media hammers Obama even when anyone paying attention knows it's really the Romney campaign that is the most dishonest in modern history.
If Mitt wants to talk about the real issues, let him start doing it himself.
His entire campaign rests on a foundation of horseshit (deductible) about Obama. Let him eat it.
sendero
(28,552 posts)... one thing is for sure, Obama is NOT going to stop talking about those tax returns nor should he.
malaise
(268,693 posts)tavalon
(27,985 posts)Crying uncle, would require the last ten years of his tax returns. Until they are released, he's not going to be able to cry uncle. He's only squealing, which considering his piggish behavior, is kind of same old, same old. We've called them repigs for years, so why wouldn't he squeal?
He's squealing himself right out of the very limited chance he had to capture the White House. Squeal on, Mittens, you're still our bitch. Show us the tax returns and maybe, maybe, then, and only then, you can get out of this corner you painted yourself into.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,020 posts)The negatives are probably starting to impact party regulars, as well. At least enough to fear them staying home.
obxhead
(8,434 posts)You either vote for Obama, or you vote on hate/religion.
This is the first election in my lifetime that I honestly believe the "independent" is a fictional creature.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)paying attention. All of the media the POTUS' campagn is putting out is defining Rmoney as exactly what he is - a greedy, opportunistic, wanna-be aristocrat. It gains more traction every day. This is old-fashioned bare-knuckle Democratic politics the likes of which the Repukes haven't seen since LBJ: "I wanna see the SOB deny that he's a pig-fucker."
obxhead
(8,434 posts)I had the privilege of overhearing a few teabaggers tonight. They can't wait for the debates when Obama doesn't have his teleprompter.
Yeah, they're right. I really can't wait for Obama to own the debates without his teleprompter.
Romney has stepped into a fight he doesn't even understand. He's never been questioned before and he wants to hide it all. Thankfully, the supporters of Obama have exploited every opportunity.
I really can't wait for the debates. I'm gonna savior every second of them.
I'll take note of the missing teleprompter as well.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)Obama has mitt reeling. Better not let up, though. There will be movement through and after the conventions. Gotta pound him day after day.
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)Harry Reid's deep throat, about to sing like a canary.
Huntsman Sr. calls on Romney to release more taxes
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2012/08/mitt-romney-taxes-jon-huntsman-sr-harry-reid-/1#.UCVlVKFlRnQ
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)would be my guess.
Rove told him: you can't win on this...you have to change the narrative. So the new narrative is going to be that Mitt is the "tone changer" and Obama is the vicious attack dog. But it's only because Mitt is getting absolutely creamed and he's on the verge of trending into McGovern territory.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)It's all "self-defense"
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Even for some DUers.
TeamPooka
(24,206 posts)he'll take the hit to change the narrative from his taxes and wealth and off shor bank accounts.
Booster
(10,021 posts)offered not one idea about what his administration would do to fix things. It's kind of fun to ask my Repug friends what they think Rmoney stands for because if they say something I can immediately Google it and show them where he's been for and against whatever they come up with. The man is a complete joke.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)the "real" repugs are crying in their beer
elzenmahn
(904 posts)...he was never regarded as a "true" conservative and regarded with suspicion for a while now.
And because they can't see through his piles of cash, they hitch their wagons to him. The ones that can see through it, will likely be so disgusted that they will sit at home.
My guess - MittWitt will have reverse coattails. He'll take a large number of Republicans down with him in November should he lose like he is now.
Brother Buzz
(36,375 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)talked to Harry, it is one of their mormon business associates. Huntsman Sr. seems very intent on getting Mittens kneecapped one way or another for what I am sure are purely personal reasons. This is a mormon mafia hit.
Brother Buzz
(36,375 posts)Ball be in Romney's court.
Abigail, Abby, is indeed Jon's daughter. She is young, but appears to be a free thinker with a keen mind; expect to read more from in the future.
obxhead
(8,434 posts)he wants to talk about the economy (business) and the deficit (taxes).
I should be shocked by the insanity, but I'm not. How sad.
Bucky
(53,936 posts)Most of the time when he was at Bain, the businesses he bought he tried to liquidate right away. And he seems to think avoiding paying taxes is something of a patriotic duty. He's the perfect Republican.
obxhead
(8,434 posts)The perfect Republican knows how to thump the bible and make the masses think he's going to rain money. Romney fails at both and even the dumbest of the dumb really know it. Some will still vote for him, but they'll hate him as much as they hate Obama while they do it.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Two shootings in two months and the tax issue didn't go away.
taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)and another poll showing him losing on the economy to independents (meaning the race is over).
He's a silver spoon bully who naturally cannot take the heat, so it's natural that he cried uncle.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)I think its this.
This is so bad, so viscerally bad, it repulses just about anyone.
Mitt Romney Started Bain Capital With Money From Families Tied To Death Squads
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014187901
Source: Huffington Post
In 1983, Bill Bain asked Mitt Romney to launch Bain Capital, a private equity offshoot of the successful consulting firm Bain & Company. After some initial reluctance, Romney agreed. The new job came with a stipulation: Romney couldn't raise money from any current clients, Bain said, because if the private equity venture failed, he didn't want it taking the consulting firm down with it.
When Romney struggled to raise funds from other traditional sources, he and his partners started thinking outside the box. Bain executive Harry Strachan suggested that Romney meet with a group of Central American oligarchs who were looking for new investment vehicles as turmoil engulfed their region.
Romney was worried that the oligarchs might be tied to "illegal drug money, right-wing death squads, or left-wing terrorism," Strachan later told a Boston Globe reporter, as quoted in the 2012 book "The Real Romney." But, pressed for capital, Romney pushed his concerns aside and flew to Miami in mid-1984 to meet with the Salvadorans at a local bank.
It was a lucrative trip. The Central Americans provided roughly $9 million -- 40 percent -- of Bain Capital's initial outside funding, the Los Angeles Times reported recently. And they became valued clients.
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/08/mitt-romney-death-squads-bain_n_1710133.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
upi402
(16,854 posts)Hmmm, ya think he has a skeleton or two in the closet?
TMeanwhiloe, the media is stuck on making Reid tell who his source is.
Traitorous 4th estate charade.
allan01
(1,950 posts)then quit going after obamas birth certificate , rmoney.
Dustin DeWinde
(193 posts)Last time it was McCain begging to suspend the campaign. now romneyhood is crying uncle. asking to keep taxes and business off the table is like the redsox asking the Yankees not to hit home runs. As if
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Great moniker!
sendero
(28,552 posts)... just opened his kimono. It will take a miracle for him to recover from this.
Those tax returns must be PRETTY NASTY to be willing to sacrifice all to keep them secret.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)a cornered animal is dangerous, even a cornered repig.
Pisces
(5,599 posts)upi402
(16,854 posts)And his ass is hot.
toddwv
(2,830 posts)Obama has been MORE than conciliatory to the Republicans and has gotten burned on multiple occasions. Romney's camp is probably hoping that he falls for it again.
So...
If Obama accepts, Romney will honor the agreement... while his attack dog PACs will continue to try and rip Obama to shreds.
If Obama declines, Romney will try and use it to paint him as a hard-core liberal who refuses to run a fair and decent election and Romney's attack dog PACs will try and rip Obama to shreds.
So Romney's "capitulation" smells a bit Rovian if you ask me. I don't think it was Rove's idea though, it lacks a certain... refusal to accept the consequences of showing weakness to an opponent before the main game even starts.
elzenmahn
(904 posts)...Obama has learned the concept of "once bitten, twice shy."
He sees how the Dems are supporting his new, attacking style. I, for one, am having a field day with it. I can actually support this type of campaign, because of all of the PAC money that has yet to be spent.
Stay on the attack, and I'll continue to support him.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,151 posts)"Fool me seven times, shame on you. Fool me eight or more times, shame on me."
Marr
(20,317 posts)First he insisted people stop talking about his time as a governor, then he insisted people stop talking about Bain, and now he's insisting they stop talking about taxes.
He's a whiny little guy.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)...to his opponent when his opponent tells him to stop a winning strategy?
That's what is so outrageous, that Mitt would have the nerve to think that he can give Barack a call and bark orders that would help Romney defeat Obama.
Romney has gone totally outer limits. And he needs to release his fucking taxes.