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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBernie-backed progressive Andrew Gillum will face a Trump-styled Republican in Florida's governor's
Florida's high-stakes gubernatorial race will be fought between a progressive Democrat vying to become the state's first black chief executive and a Republican congressman closely allied with President Donald Trump.
In a late primary season shocker, Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum defeated the front runner, former Rep. Gwen Graham, who had led in the polls for most of the campaign. He emerged from a field of five competitive candidates, in which he was the only non-millionaire and only supporter of "Medicare for all" single-payer health care, to become the state's first black gubernatorial nominee.
"The point has never been lost on me that my name on the ballot is simply a vessel, is simply the name,' Gillum told a raucous crowd of supporters in Tallahassee on Tuesday night. "But what is underneath that name are all the issues that we care so deeply about."
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/28/politics/andrew-gillum-ron-desantis-florida-governor-race/index.html
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)LexVegas
(6,024 posts)betsuni
(25,374 posts)SunSeeker
(51,508 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
George II
(67,782 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Voltaire2
(12,957 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I'm going to imagine it means "spot on" in that case.
Some other things make a lot more sense knowing you define things differently for each use.
ADWCCD <- That means thanks for telling me I'm spot on.
Voltaire2
(12,957 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)A couple of minutes ago it meant "spot on NCTrravler".
Now when I read it it says "Go Democrats!"
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)So happy I voted for him yesterday!
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Randall Woodfin is another.
She still keeps on making a difference.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,311 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)But I must admit, Sanders certainly is getting over his distaste for big money from out of state big donors, endorsing a candidate that got at least $1M from billionaire Tom Steyer & $500K from Soros.
Maybe that's why he waited so long to endorse Gillum - at least until he was picking up in the polls.
But Sanders got on board with Soros and sons beneficiary Tom Perriello very quickly, so he must have decided it's not a deal breaker for progressive candidates.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,311 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)I sense you are not pleased with the reply to the question you asked.
LisaM
(27,794 posts)It's unfair and it's unfortunate, but HRC is smart enough to know when to stay in the background. Unlike some politicians, she has the capacity to do exactly that.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)It's actually a very female style of accomplishing things, and she got so much done doing it. I think that it was why so many were suspicious about why she got so much support from her peers, and thought that she must have gotten it through corrupt means.
I mean why else would so many in Washington who worked with her through the years agree that she was better than any man who thought he was qualified? (cue the whining about her "unfairly working inside the Beltway for years."
Like the old saw, "she must have slept her way to the top," she was suspect from day one for wanting to be a leader.
She has people skills, leadership talent and emotional intelligence. In order to portray her as "corrupt" opponents made those skills "sinister."
And now that same political savvy is being mischaracterized when she does what so many want her to do - go away - as neglect.
Damned if she does, and damned if she doesn't.
Meanwhile she works behind the scenes, doing what she always did. Making things work for the better, and getting money and resources to where they need to be.
And the legacy of the young, talented black politicians that campaigned with and for her in 2016, especially those who she gave the spotlight to at the DNC are coming into their own. Their OWN hard work got them the victories.
Her endorsement came when it counted - before the polls showed that they were winning. She saw the potential, and gave them a voice in front of the whole nation, while others focused on screaming, protesting and booing John Lewis of all people.
Hillary won that, that too, but not for herself. I think she had a glass of wine, and called them when they won.
The black Democratic women who surged out to vote for Gillum were the ones who came out for Hillary in 2016.
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)She would have been happy to see either one win.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)...he hasnt had a problem with it since 2016
progressoid
(49,943 posts)she'd have won FL
JI7
(89,239 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)my second in command.
Maybe if Bernie...
Oh nevermind.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)lapucelle
(18,187 posts)progressoid
(49,943 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)been a team player. He wants to always be the leader. He would have never played a supporting, secondary role to Hillary. He would have given new meaning to the phrase "going rouge"
Picking an unpredictable lose cannon for the second most visible role in the campaign would have been pure insanity
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dubyadiprecession
(5,678 posts)Who wooda thunk it!
SkyDancer
(561 posts)It's not like this is new
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Who wooda thunk it?
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)as "Bernie backed."
Mr. Weeks
@MrDane1982
Andrew Gillum just made it clear on Don Lemon that by no means is he affiliated with Bernie Sanders! He took that endorsement he made it very clear he was a Hillary Clinton supporter, delegate, vice presidential contender. Stop giving credit to a white man for a black man hard.
3:04 PM - Aug 29, 2018
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Sorry, OKNancy, this post was meant in response to the OP.
Vinca
(50,236 posts)When you think about it, Trump cherry picked a few far left things to run on, including saying everyone should be able to get healthcare. It was all bullshit, of course. The most important thing is to get out the vote!
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Are going to make this about Sanders when it has nothing to do with him. Some just cant get over their deity complex. They will allow the for profit media to drag them around by their little noses as they stoke division where none exists.
You know what Sanders didnt to and could never do? Win a primary in Florida. Now they will try to live vicariously through someone who has little to do with Sanders. But someones gotta give the white man credit.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)That always helps. Outside of money, it has very little influence.
seaglass
(8,171 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)He is not a Bro.
seaglass
(8,171 posts)JI7
(89,239 posts)until we can change the system we need to work with what we have.
otherwise it will just be handing them victory.
seaglass
(8,171 posts)SunSeeker
(51,508 posts)Greene wound up finishing fourth in the five-way pack, but he spent $10 million on ads attacking Graham ― more than she spent on television on her own behalf.
But ultimately what put Gillum over the top was African American women, and Bernie did not deliver those votes to Gillum, neither did any "dark money."
seaglass
(8,171 posts)everyone working together. I'm done with the infighting over who gets to claim him. I hope he wins.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)That's the last time that shite's gonna fly.. and not very well then.
seaglass
Uncle Joe
(58,281 posts)(snip)
"It's no secret we haven't won the money war," he said. "It's prohibited us from getting on their TV screens It's a way to get my candidacy into the mix and the news," especially with people who might still be unaware he is a candidate.
Gillum added Sanders' camp reached out to him, after he completed a questionnaire for Our Revolution and received the endorsement of the group. We "got outreach from Sen. Sanders' office we didn't actually reach out to them, they reached out to us."
After meeting with some of his advisors, he had a phone call with Sanders, and two weeks after that, Sanders called back: "I'd like to help."
Having a high-profile surrogate come to the state like this and spend a day "campaigning across the (Interstate-4) corridor with me the timing couldn't be any better," he said.
https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/08/17/bernie-sanders-andrew-gillum-can-transform-florida-politically/
The 2016 candidate for president and progressive Democrat gave his endorsement of Gillum on Twitter. Hes the most prominent political name yet to pick Gillum in the run-up to the Aug. 28 primary.
Im proud to endorse Tallahassee Mayor @andrewgillum in his race for governor of Florida, Sanders confirmed Twitter account posted.
Its an honor to have Senator Bernie Sanders endorsement in this campaign, Gillum responded in a statement. He has been an unapologetic fighter for everyday working people standing up to the special interests. From Medicare-for-All, to a $15 minimum wage, his ideas and platform have become the Democratic Partys north star on economic justice for those who need it most.
(snip)
Polls show Gillum behind in the polls for the Democratic nomination to former U.S. Rep. Gwen Graham, ex-Miami Beach mayor Philip Levine and South Florida billionaire Jeff Greene.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/politics/os-bernie-sanders-andrew-gillum-20180801-story.html
Voltaire2
(12,957 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,281 posts)progressoid
(49,943 posts)Talk about stoking division where none exists.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Shocking how credit for his win is being snatched by others.
progressoid
(49,943 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,345 posts)Yawn.
DU thread titles drawn from pot-stirring headlines mean so much more.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Not sure why thats an oops moment. He thanks people.
progressoid
(49,943 posts)And notice how Bernie didn't take credit. He just congratulated Gillum. Class.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Just strange that you think he might not have. Didnt know it was a point of contention. Just like Gillum was going to respond in a classy manner.
This is how petty the dividers have gotten. They have nothing else.
progressoid
(49,943 posts)This whole sub-thread about division was literally started by you. This whole thing could have been a nice win for Democrats but instead you had to pick at that two year old Bernie scab.
ms liberty
(8,557 posts)StuckInTexas
(66 posts)+1000
There are a few posters who just can't let go of 2016 and they inadvertently end up gas lighting the rest of us, with a steady stream of dividing posts while bemoaning viewpoints they do not agree with as being divisive. It's exhausting to read this board sometimes.
We all need to never forget that the fascists that make up the GOP and their base in this country are the true enemy.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)He's taking credit, and using it to raise money.
In Florida, Andrew Gillum took on virtually the entire political and financial establishment of the state. No one thought he had a chance not just at the start of the campaign, but as recently as a few weeks ago. But while his opponents had the money, Andrew had the people. He ran a grassroots campaign that forcefully spoke directly to the needs of working families, and last night Andrew won.
You are going to love Andrew Gillum. When I traveled to Florida to campaign for him recently, I left full of hope for progressives in that state. And he did not let us down.
Andrew has never backed down from a fight. And that includes beating the NRA and standing up against xenophobic politicians. He campaigned on ideas like Medicare for all, raising the minimum wage, investments in sustainable energy, and making sure the wealthiest corporations pay their fair share. He will be a governor who represents all the people, and not just the 1 percent.
The truth is, everywhere progressives are running, progressives are winning. It was not just Andrew Gillum who won last night, but both progressive candidates we endorsed in competitive state legislative primaries won as well. We are transforming the Democratic Party like we saw last weekend when the DNC voted overwhelmingly to eliminate superdelegate votes in the presidential nominating process and we are transforming the nation.
That is the political revolution.
Election Day is right around the corner, and Andrew Gillum starts at a financial disadvantage once again. So its important we stand with him today, especially when he spent almost everything he raised to win a primary against two well-financed opponents. So I have to ask:
Can you split a very important donation between Andrew Gillums campaign and my work supporting and rallying for progressive candidates like Andrew all across the country? He needs our help. I would not ask if it wasnt so important.
If you've saved payment info with ActBlue Express, your donation will automatically be split between Andrew Gillum and Bernie Sanders
Kamala Harris, on the other hand, is fighting back against RW attacks on Gillum, while Sanders raising money for his own campaign.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/8/29/1791934/-FL-Gov-Sen-Kamala-Harris-D-CA-Refuses-To-Let-Trump-Attack-Andrew-Gillum-D
progressoid
(49,943 posts)Gosh, I wonder if any other candidates coordinate shared fundraising. Let's see...
Well here's one that splits donations between Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren.
https://secure.actblue.com/donate/warrenharris
Is Harris taking advantage of Warren or is Warren taking advantage of Harris? Inquiring minds want to know!
And what's going on here? Donations split three ways among Harris, Russ Feingold, & Ted Strickland? That seems awfully fishy. https://secure.actblue.com/donate/warrensept15
This one is just plain weird. https://secure.actblue.com/donate/demwomeneoq
Support Democratic WomenAutomatically split a contribution among these six outstanding women candidates!Tammy Baldwin (WI-Sen)
Heidi Heitkamp (ND-Sen)
Mazie Hirono (HI-Sen)
Claire McCaskill (MO-Sen)
Elizabeth Warren (MA-Sen)
Chuck Schumer (NY-Sen)
Schumer is an outstanding woman candidate?
Schumer's gender confusion notwithstanding, it seems that lots of campaigns help each other fund raise. The horror.
Edited to add that the link from Kamala Harris's email ALSO wants you to split your donation between Harris and Gillum.https://secure.actblue.com/donate/kdh-180829-gillum?addr1=&akid=266.8095.eW24gR&city=Los%20Angeles&email=sam.sero%40gmail.com&employer=&firstname=&lastname=&occupation=&phone=&rd=1&refcode=em180829-full&state=CA&t=8&zip=90034
NOTE: Your contribution will be divided evenly between Andrew Gillum and Kamala Harris
Response to progressoid (Reply #148)
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ehrnst
(32,640 posts)The text that I bolded in the fundraising email is in response to your claim that he "simply congratulated him" and "didn't take credit."
I pointed out that Kamala Harris is defending him from attacks, which Sanders is not doing while fundraising.
Is that clearer?
progressoid
(49,943 posts)So even though in your two sentence comment, you twice mention Sanders making money off of this, that's not the point of your post. OK. That's probably best since it's a common practice for politicians to help each other raise funds. Also, friends of Bernie are the top contributors to Gillum through ActBlue so far. $158,000 as of today.
https://secure.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/48054
So this is about Bernie taking credit. Hmmm. Interestingly, if one bolds other parts of the email, it celebrates and supports Andrew.
In Florida, Andrew Gillum took on virtually the entire political and financial establishment of the state. No one thought he had a chance not just at the start of the campaign, but as recently as a few weeks ago. But while his opponents had the money, Andrew had the people. He ran a grassroots campaign that forcefully spoke directly to the needs of working families, and last night Andrew won.
You are going to love Andrew Gillum. When I traveled to Florida to campaign for him recently, I left full of hope for progressives in that state. And he did not let us down.
Andrew has never backed down from a fight. And that includes beating the NRA and standing up against xenophobic politicians. He campaigned on ideas like Medicare for all, raising the minimum wage, investments in sustainable energy, and making sure the wealthiest corporations pay their fair share. He will be a governor who represents all the people, and not just the 1 percent.
The truth is, everywhere progressives are running, progressives are winning. It was not just Andrew Gillum who won last night, but both progressive candidates we endorsed in competitive state legislative primaries won as well. We are transforming the Democratic Party like we saw last weekend when the DNC voted overwhelmingly to eliminate superdelegate votes in the presidential nominating process and we are transforming the nation.
That is the political revolution.
Election Day is right around the corner, and Andrew Gillum starts at a financial disadvantage once again. So its important we stand with him today, especially when he spent almost everything he raised to win a primary against two well-financed opponents. So I have to ask:
Can you split a very important donation between Andrew Gillums campaign and my work supporting and rallying for progressive candidates like Andrew all across the country? He needs our help. I would not ask if it wasnt so important.
If you've saved payment info with ActBlue Express, your donation will automatically be split between Andrew Gillum and Bernie Sanders
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Like I said.
That concept seems to bother you - or at least people commenting on it does, while it doesn't surprise me.
Bernie is a savvy career politician. To pretend that he isn't, and doesn't take credit for any and all success that he possibly can, and strike while the iron is hot for a fundraising opportunity is to deny what politicians do.
All politicians, no exceptions.
Especially those that have been on the Hill as long as Sanders. Especially during a re-election year, and VERY much so when one is going to run for POTUS.
I think there are times when it can appear more self-serving than others, but that doesn't change the nature of the politics. One is always making sure that the image is meticulously maintained.
progressoid
(49,943 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)what he actually did, which was to take credit for a political win, and turn it into a fundraising opportunity.
progressoid
(49,943 posts)There's a whole lotta snark in this response. Guess I gotta work on my lightheartedness.
At least we both agree that this is just politicians being politicians. No big deal.
Now I have to get back to work. Later I have to clean up our guest room for the Dem field organizer who is staying at our house for the next month. Then a doctor's appt. Cut down a dead tree. Canvasing on Saturday. Martin O'Malley coming to town on Sunday. County Democratic Party Labor day picnic on Monday. It's going to be a busy weekend. See ya later!
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)SunSeeker
(51,508 posts)What put Gillum over the top was African American women, and Bernie did not deliver those votes.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)of a Senator from Vermont nowadays....
See also: Randall Woodfin.
https://www.birminghamtimes.com/2016/07/hillarys-team-in-alabama-ready-for-next-weeks-democratic-convention/
oberliner
(58,724 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)in terms of what he has dismissed at times as "identity politics."
Gillum stated on CNN, "This was a win for the Barack Obama wing of the party, the Hillary Clinton wing of the party and the Bernie Sanders wing of the party."
That's something that he learned from Hillary that will serve him well. The ability to unite, not divide.
And it's good to see that Sanders has learned enough to endorse someone as "progressive" who campaigned for Hillary, as well as being a Hillary delegate who spoke at the establishment Convention in 2016.
It's good seeing Bernie evolve.
betsuni
(25,374 posts)SunSeeker
(51,508 posts)Use of that term dismisses important gender/race issues and is divisive.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)important or valid as other issues. Reducing it to "politics" is like reducing Choice to a "social" issue reducing it to something that it's not, which is a health care and economic issue.
It's similar to politicians on the right when they use the term "the politics of envy" or "takers" when they talk about issues of race, gender and poverty.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I cant imagine anyone being shocked that a class act like Gillum would thank him for being a cash cow.
SunSeeker
(51,508 posts)Every smart politician tells all his supporters he couldn't have done it without them.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)and the Sanders wing of the Democratic Party."
He's not giving BS sole credit.
SunSeeker
(51,508 posts)And that is not helping Gillum's chances against DeSantis.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Quite the opposite. The schools and roads there are evidence of that.
The further away he gets from the term "socialist," the better his message will be recieved.
He's way, way more like Hillary than Bernie - especially in demeanor.
SunSeeker
(51,508 posts)Ask Canada or Denmark, or any other major country with single payer --- they are all thriving market economies, not socialist. Single payer is just a logical and efficient way to regulate medical care, by cutting out the leaches that are health insurance companies. The business of medicine is still in private hands in those countries.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Not mine.
The POTUS tweet, for example.
SunSeeker
(51,508 posts)It is going to be a tough fight, so we all need to get behind Gillum. Folks claiming he is Bernie's candidate are not helping build the unity we need, and they're not helping Gillum.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)the John Birch Society Republicans, to describe a candidate that is "going to take all your money and give it to lazy, drug using brown people."
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)especially women. They couln't care less what Sanders think.
mcar
(42,278 posts)Gillum ran a great campaign but, to some, it's all about Bernie.
Here's a list of everyone who endorsed him. https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211066659
Gillum put together his coalition. A young black Democrat put together a successful campaign, took his message to the people, and an old white man from another state needs be given credit for it. Gillum deserves more credit on his own.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)but, Bernie doesn't deserve to be bashed all the time either for reasons I'll never understand. How can a progressive victory like this one divide us?!?! WTF!!! Unite NOW and let's send these racist pig Rethuglicans packing!!! (smdh)
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)to happen is that the insistence that Sanders be given credit for someone else's work for standing next to someone, also divisive. Other Congressional Dems endorsed too. We need strong Democratic candidates who are not locked in the perception that they area front for someone else, especially someone who is not a Democrat. Gillum is a good candidate on his own.
progressoid
(49,943 posts)Mariana
(14,854 posts)sellitman
(11,605 posts)I thank you! The Hillary-Bernie hatred on this site is disgusting.
We have waaaaaaay bigger fish to fry.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)mcar
(42,278 posts)I see posters giving Gillum the credit he deserves.
KPN
(15,635 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)Sid
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)He may have been forgotten by many who were distracted by and promoting division, but the rest of the nation paid attention.
I'm glad that this candidate - along with Woodfin and Abrams, is part of Hillary's legacy to the party and the nation.
progressoid
(49,943 posts)But let's be honest, if Hillary or Obama had endorsed him, the headlines would have highlighted their endorsement as well. Something like, "Clinton's candidate to battle Trump's candidate" or some such headline.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)who took him there, not outsiders, and certainly not the bros
Uncle Joe
(58,281 posts)Bernie Sanders makes campaign stump with Andrew Gillum ahead of primary election
When Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders took the stage at a Tampa rally Friday morning to campaign for Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillums bid for governor, he got right down to business.
To make sure Florida moves in a different direction a progressive direction we need to make him the next governor in the state, Sanders told a crowd of about 2,500 people.
(snip)
Gillum, the mayor of Tallahassee, is facing four wealthy and serious contenders and is currently second-to-last in the primary race, according to the most recent public polling.
(snip)
Gillum, the only African-American in the race, is championing proposals that would raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour in the state, healthcare for all, restoring voting rights to felons and making the Sunshine State a leader for solar energy.
(snip)
https://www.naplesnews.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/17/sanders-campaigns-gillum-ahead-primary-election/1018484002/
(snip)
"It's no secret we haven't won the money war," he said. "It's prohibited us from getting on their TV screens It's a way to get my candidacy into the mix and the news," especially with people who might still be unaware he is a candidate.
Gillum added Sanders' camp reached out to him, after he completed a questionnaire for Our Revolution and received the endorsement of the group. We "got outreach from Sen. Sanders' office we didn't actually reach out to them, they reached out to us."
After meeting with some of his advisors, he had a phone call with Sanders, and two weeks after that, Sanders called back: "I'd like to help."
Having a high-profile surrogate come to the state like this and spend a day "campaigning across the (Interstate-4) corridor with me the timing couldn't be any better," he said.
https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/08/17/bernie-sanders-andrew-gillum-can-transform-florida-politically/
QC
(26,371 posts)It's long past time to let go of 2016.
KPN
(15,635 posts)accurate perspective into this ridiculous environment.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Which leads me to believe that Bernie may be evolving on that, since it's not been a dealbreaker for him endorsing state level office seekers, like Gillum and Perriello.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)What the fuck does he know?
KPN
(15,635 posts)Bernie by bashing Bernie supporters for posts that hadnt even happened. Sigh!
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)KPN
(15,635 posts)partys ability to grow, esp. among millennials in my opinion (based on many discussions and beers with members of that cohort the past several years). But have faith and optimism, progressive power is growing and I believe will prevail in the party and the nation.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)Are we allowed to give Bernie even a smidgen of credit for bringing progressive issues to the forefront and making it advantageous to advocate for them? (That was a rhetorical question.)
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)are making the Blue wave a bit less white.
And it's good to see that Senator Sanders has come around to seeing that those who worked for and supported HRC in 2016 are indeed in touch with progressives in the U.S.
He was on a list of her potential VP picks.
HAB911
(8,867 posts)Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)But a person of color who is also a liberal in Florida? I have lived there...won't happen in my opinion...sincerely hope I am wrong. We need to consider electability in primary voting...50 state strategy works. I fear we have ceded the state to more four years of GOP governance.
progressoid
(49,943 posts)Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)We have a shot...at a state that has become increasingly red. I sincerely hope we win. But I don't know if that will happen...rolling the dice.
bearsfootball516
(6,373 posts)Maybe Gillum will win, maybe he won't. But one thing was clear last night. Gillum drove minority vote through the roof and brings a ton of energy and hope. You mentioned a person of color not being able to win Florida...remember 2008 and 2012.
Wasn't there another charismatic, African American man who basically came out of nowhere and took Florida by storm?
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)a former Republican. A moderate could win disaffected Trump voters this years...I hope he can win...sent money.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)The voter participation he could generate could have effects down ticket, especially in local races.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)With Trump rallying the racists around the country and especially in the south with his "violence" dog whistles I don't see how this can happen. I would warn people to not pay attention to the polls, they have not be accurate since people won't tell someone on the phone they are racists, but they will vote like they are when nobody is looking.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)...candidate wins! This, plus the DNC stopping the superdelegate approach. Plus, Medicare for all is being talked about more and mainstreamed as an idea. Bernie is having a good effect.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)I think that his support for her campaign alumni Gillum and Randall Woodfin, as progressive, Bernie is evolving in his understanding of how progressive HRC really was and is.
That would be good for Bernie.
Certainly Gillum embraces HRC's generous and positive message of reaching out and including people, rather than shouting and finger wagging.
mcar
(42,278 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)...in the general, Bernie included. Everyone did what they could to turn out the vote for HRC after the primary.
This particular upset is seen primarily as a current Bernie action, because he stumped and rallied for Gillum in this election.
And Gillum certainly ran to the left of the centrist Democrat, Graham.
Do you know which candidate Hillary backed in this actual primary?
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)And I certainly give the DNC and HRC credit for giving him the national spotlight at the convention in 2016.
That may have be an impetus for all of these people and orgs to get behind him.
From the nominee's website: https://andrewgillum.com/2018/08/latest-endorsements/
The Gillum for Governor campaign has been endorsed by:
U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders
U.S. Rep. Alcee L. Hastings
U.S. Rep. Frederica Wilson
U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez
U.S. Rep. Ro Khanna
Former U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Julian Castro
Virginia Lt. Governor Justin Fairfax
Former Florida Democratic Party Chair Bob Poe
Former Florida Democratic Party Allison Tant
Orange-Osceola County State Attorney Aramis Ayala
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zentrum
(9,865 posts)...a part. Though I think Graham was the mainstream Dem candidate. And for this reason, Graham was the expected winner.
But it's only Bernie, a national candidate, who stumped for him. This means that the perception---and media perception is hugely important (as I'm sure you know)---is that this is a Bernie driven win. And an upset of the polls and the expectation. Like Ocasio-Cortez was.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)He came on August 1.
Virginia Lt. Governor Justin Fairfax came on July 19, and the vast majority of endorsements came before July.
I ask because so many people are crediting Sanders with the win, but he waited until after all of these other organizations, and people much more well known to Florida residents had already endorsed him.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11067115
Do you think that might be due to Sanders waiting to see if he was likely to win?
https://andrewgillum.com/2018/07/gillums-straw-poll-victories-endorsements-show-growing-momentum-gov-race/
zentrum
(9,865 posts)....just today, I heard my local affiliate of NPR report what an upset the Gillum win was , in terms of expected outcome. They said they didn't know "what was the bigger story"---how Gillum won, or how he upset all the polls which had Graham winning. So I don't think there was anything to "wait for" in terms of a "likely win". Everyone thought he was unlikely to win.
Are you saying HRC endorsed him over Graham? Or was she silent for this primary?
NPR also talked about how Gillum and the Black community in Florida begged HRC and the DNC to help them organize Black voters for a good turnout in 2016 and how they were ignored. Just telling you the story as reported on the NPR show today.
So, no I don't think Bernie waited until it was "safe" to endorse. He endorsed and helped out in time to help Gillum win.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)That was before Sanders decided to endorse.
I didn't hear the NPR story. Can you link to it?
Not sure where you got this - are you confusing me with another poster? Or are you mistaking "many endorsers who were well known and influential in Florida" with HRC? No - I'm talking about this list:
https://andrewgillum.com/2018/08/latest-endorsements/
Is that clearer?
But you might be thinking of discussion of HRC's endorsement of him in 2016 as a Democratic leader when she gave him the spotlight for a national audience at the Democratic National Convention, along with Stacy Abrams. And Gillum did hire Brendan McPhillips who was the political director for Hillary for America in Pennsylvania in 2017, when he had issues raising money. From the looks of it, that did solve that issue. And his communications director was Diane Wasserman Shultz's press secretary.
But still, it's interesting that Sanders waited until August, the last endorser. Maybe he was hesitant to endorse someone that had endorsed his opponent, or perhaps it was because Gillum took large donations from out-of-state billionaires. Or that Gillum's communications director was Debbie Wasserman Shultz's press secretary.
That didn't stop Sanders from endorsing Tom Perriello in VA for the governor's race, however, so I figured that wasn't an issue for Bernie anymore.
Perhaps Hillary has pulled Sanders to the left on social justice issues. That's a possibility.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)awesomerwb1
(4,265 posts)So if Bernie comes out and "endorses" someone last minute and the candidate wins....it's all because of Bernie?
Got it. Gonna reach out to Bernie and ask him for next week's lottery numbers.
progressoid
(49,943 posts)Other than the headline and a paragraph, not much was said about Sanders.
awesomerwb1
(4,265 posts)Hope I didn't offend you bro.
progressoid
(49,943 posts)Nonplussed.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum finally laid his 2016 cards on the table, endorsing Hillary Clinton for president less than 30 days out from Floridas March 15 primary.
Hillary Clinton has put forward an agenda focused on moving our nation forward and building on the tremendous progress made by President Obama. Her experience and legacy of leadership speak to the kind of purpose-driven President she will be, and the kind of commander in chief the American people deserve, said Gillum in a prepared statement.
As a Mayor, I understand the importance of bringing real and pragmatic solutions to the issues that face our communities. Hillary Clinton has put forward innovative ideas focused on making college more affordable, raising incomes for working families, restoring balance and fairness to our criminal justice system, and addressing issues of climate change, said the first-term Democratic mayor and former city commissioner.
Hillary Clinton is the change-maker this nation needs. I believe she stands first and foremost for American progress, and I know shell make a real difference in the lives of the people in Florida and all over the country.
http://floridapolitics.com/archives/202564-andrew-gillum-backs-hillary-clinton
ismnotwasm
(41,965 posts)It was the Black community coming out for this guy. White people need to give credit where it belongs
George II
(67,782 posts)....Steyer put $500,000 of his own money into the race.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,780 posts)I think it was actually $1 Million each - Soros and Steyer.
George II
(67,782 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Which did help.
LisaM
(27,794 posts)to divide the party?
Why isn't he called "Hillary supporter" Gillum, or even just Tallahassee mayor, or one of many of other things we could use? (Or even just refer to him as a hardworking Dem who's worked his way up?)
Hillary is supporting plenty of candidates, but she obviously doesn't feel the need to slap her name on everyone she endorses. This is really, really bugging me. Let's judge the guys on his policies and his resume and his obvious connection with voters. The Florida governor race is not about Bernie Sanders.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Like Woodfin and Abrams?
LisaM
(27,794 posts)One thing Trump and Bernie have in common is they just seem to want their names out there for everything. Wouldn't it be nice if we could just get rid of this d*** wagging contest and talk about issues, and achievements, and actual plans?
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)to come.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)Gregory Krieg wrote this piece. CNN published it. No telling who wrote the headline.
Voltaire2
(12,957 posts)One of literally dozens this morning noting exactly the same thing that apparently didnt just happen.
JCanete
(5,272 posts)upset have generated such mainstream press presented as "Sanders wins." Maybe that has become a newsworthy framing because Sanders is such a household name now and still popular that the mention comes with clicks. I don't think the article or its emphasis on naming Sanders is the problem per se. I do worry about how posting via title in the general discussion forum comes across, especially given our painful couple years of history here at DU.
JCanete
(5,272 posts)divide the party by taking very interpretive shots at candidates that many here appreciate?
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,128 posts)JCanete
(5,272 posts)JCanete
(5,272 posts)this is intended to do. Gillum seems to have a range of support, and thank God, there seems to be a tentative sense of unity here on DU around this candidate, which is a nice temporary relief from the daily infighting.