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TomSlick

(11,086 posts)
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 07:05 PM Sep 2018

I think Kavanaugh is making a mistake.

If Kavanaugh doesn't withdraw from consideration and is confirmed, I think his problems will not be over.

Whether or not Dr. Ford testifies, my bet is there are scores of reporters trying to run down her allegations. Somebody is going to ascertain the facts - there are Pulitzers at stake. If, as I believe, what they will find substantiates the allegations, Kavanaugh will find himself being a Supreme Court justice facing charges for attempted rape.

Unless he is innocent and he is confident there will be no evidence found to substantiate the allegations, he really ought to get his name out of the news.

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I think Kavanaugh is making a mistake. (Original Post) TomSlick Sep 2018 OP
My hunch is he's guilty as hell just by the way he's handling it. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2018 #1
Yep. TomSlick Sep 2018 #4
Trumpster pressuress, for Kavenaught et al is to go 'balls to the wall', empedocles Sep 2018 #2
Sure. TomSlick Sep 2018 #7
Nothing will happen. Kavanaugh will be confirmed and he will not be prosecuted. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #3
Exactly. NT enough Sep 2018 #8
It may be true that he wouldn't have been prosecuted back at the time but times have changed. TomSlick Sep 2018 #9
Kavanaugh is Abe Fortas underthematrix Sep 2018 #5
Yeah, but Abe Fortas only had to resign. TomSlick Sep 2018 #10
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2018 #11
I absolutely agree with you Kavanaugh is likely to end up in prison underthematrix Sep 2018 #12
There is also his apparent perjury to consider. TomSlick Sep 2018 #13
Yes. Kavanaugh is a walking talking crime scene underthematrix Sep 2018 #16
Yes and no. I remember Fortas. He had become involved in a financial deal The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #15
Exactly. Look how many of trumps fine people are going to jail. pwb Sep 2018 #6
Trump's Midas Touch. TomSlick Sep 2018 #14
So far, he's put Gorsuch on the SC and he's about to put Kavanaugh on. And there have been no Cousin Dupree Sep 2018 #19
Trump is still in office. TomSlick Sep 2018 #20
Ronan Farrow is probably on it, and he's a ferret with things like that. Or a bloodhound. Both. Amaryllis Sep 2018 #17
Agreed TomSlick Sep 2018 #18
The allegations against him are being discussed in detail on every news show Rhiannon12866 Sep 2018 #21
And yet Thomas sits in the court JCMach1 Sep 2018 #22
Yes, but.... TomSlick Sep 2018 #23

TomSlick

(11,086 posts)
4. Yep.
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 07:12 PM
Sep 2018

I am really slow to assume guilt, it runs counter to my civil libertarian ideals. BUT, if it was me and if I was being falsely accused, I'd go straight to the FBI and asked for a polygraph - I'd be demanding a full FBI investigation - I'd insist that my "friend" be subpoenaed to appear and testify. The fact that none of these things has happened makes me conclude he is guilty.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,576 posts)
3. Nothing will happen. Kavanaugh will be confirmed and he will not be prosecuted.
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 07:11 PM
Sep 2018

He probably wouldn't have been prosecuted even if his conduct had been reported at the time it happened, because Kavanaugh was an entitled white kid from a well-off family; his mother was a judge and his dad was a lawyer; he was attending a prestigious private school; and he was a minor. If he had been charged with anything it would have been a misdemeanor, and because he was a minor the file would have been sealed. The local police and prosecutor aren't going to try to resurrect a 36-year-old crime that probably wouldn't have been prosecuted in the first place. Maybe that's not the way it should happen, but that's the way the "justice" system works.

TomSlick

(11,086 posts)
9. It may be true that he wouldn't have been prosecuted back at the time but times have changed.
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 07:15 PM
Sep 2018

No prosecutor would sweep this under the rug if there is good evidence to support a conviction. It would be the end of a career.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
12. I absolutely agree with you Kavanaugh is likely to end up in prison
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 07:21 PM
Sep 2018

but not for sexual assault. I think he will end up in prison because his nomination was part of a criminal conspiracy to obstruct justice.

My overarching point though was Kavanaugh will not have a lifetime appointment on the SCOUS

TomSlick

(11,086 posts)
13. There is also his apparent perjury to consider.
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 07:25 PM
Sep 2018

It seems to me that he committed perjury both in his confirmation hearings for the DC Circuit and SCOTUS.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,576 posts)
15. Yes and no. I remember Fortas. He had become involved in a financial deal
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 07:29 PM
Sep 2018

that was not illegal but was tainted because it also involved a person who was under investigation for securities fraud. There were also some other alleged financial skeletons in his closet, although he was never charged with any crime. He eventually resigned from the court at the urging of Earl Warren to protect the reputation of the court and put the scandal to rest. This was during the Nixon administration and Nixon wanted him off the court because of his liberal opinions, so there was also talk of impeachment (they also wanted to impeach Earl Warren for being liberal).

I suppose it's conceivable that if more or new evidence relating to Kavanaugh's behavior were to surface, he could also end up resigning under pressure (from whom? Roberts?), but it would have to be very serious and very persuasive.

pwb

(11,245 posts)
6. Exactly. Look how many of trumps fine people are going to jail.
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 07:13 PM
Sep 2018

They all thought they could get away with anything too.? He will be another life ruined by Trump, hopefully.

Cousin Dupree

(1,866 posts)
19. So far, he's put Gorsuch on the SC and he's about to put Kavanaugh on. And there have been no
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 08:57 PM
Sep 2018

moves to get him out office no matter what he does. I’d say he’s Teflon Don.

TomSlick

(11,086 posts)
18. Agreed
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 08:22 PM
Sep 2018

My bet is that Ronan better hurry - I suspect there is competition out there for the story.

Rhiannon12866

(204,689 posts)
21. The allegations against him are being discussed in detail on every news show
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 02:37 AM
Sep 2018

Does he really want his kids to go through all this, too? It really is impossible to miss...

TomSlick

(11,086 posts)
23. Yes, but....
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 11:46 AM
Sep 2018

There is a world of difference in the legal exposure between sexual harassment and attempted rape.

Any crime involved in Thomas' sexual harassment is long since barred by the statute of limitations. There is no statute of limitations in Maryland for attempted rape.

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