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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 10:31 AM Aug 2012

Myth: Paul Ryan grew up in a middle class family.

Ryan wasn't really raised in a middle class family. This is the family business started by his great grandfather in 1884.

http://www.ryancentral.com/history.html

His grandfather was a U.S. Attorney appointed by Calvin Coolidge.

He spreads bullshit about his background- just like he spreads it about everything else.

Yes, his father died and his family got Social Security benefits, but Ryan comes from a privileged background.

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Myth: Paul Ryan grew up in a middle class family. (Original Post) cali Aug 2012 OP
We need to keep this front and center.... Avalux Aug 2012 #1
yep, it's bullshit. cali Aug 2012 #2
kick. two rich white guys from privileged backgrounds. cali Aug 2012 #3
R & R has a whole new meaning with these two. part man all 86 Aug 2012 #4
Rich & Richer? eom Frustratedlady Aug 2012 #29
But he got up early to drive the Oscar Meyer Weinermobile Patiod Aug 2012 #5
He had a summer sales job sulphurdunn Aug 2012 #17
And on those "liberal" "socialist/communists" at NPR Patiod Aug 2012 #36
This needs to be plastered everywhere. The media needs to be FORCED somehow K Gardner Aug 2012 #6
Like the company slogan? cali Aug 2012 #7
ROFL !!! eom K Gardner Aug 2012 #11
Silver Spoons sadbear Aug 2012 #8
The Bushes were like that too. ananda Aug 2012 #10
These two make the Bushes look like the Brady Bunch. smirkymonkey Aug 2012 #26
I did not know this. AzDar Aug 2012 #9
According to Wiki, he used the SS benefits he received from ages 16-18 hedgehog Aug 2012 #12
He's been getting a gubmint check since he was 28. Talk about biting the hand that feed him! nt MADem Aug 2012 #25
No, since he was 16. S/S survivor benefit. trof Aug 2012 #37
I meant in his adult years--I know he got the benefit checks and applied them to college, supposedly MADem Aug 2012 #38
Just another reason for his antipathy towards "big government" ... and the EPA, in particular. TahitiNut Aug 2012 #13
I'll try and find out. cali Aug 2012 #14
their company wouldn't exist without the feds. started with contract work for the railroads (all HiPointDem Aug 2012 #20
Well, the stinking son of a seabiscuit has been mooching off the gubmint since he was 28. MADem Aug 2012 #15
From the OP Link Sedona Aug 2012 #16
I'm from Janesville, WI shotten99 Aug 2012 #18
And there it is... ellisonz Aug 2012 #27
The social security death benefit for minor children was not means-tested. Anyone who fit HiPointDem Aug 2012 #19
Ryan is every bit the privileged Aerows Aug 2012 #21
He his your standard Old Money Libertarian ideologue. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #22
Kinda like the "Rick Santorum grw up blue collar" myth.... YoungDemCA Aug 2012 #23
kinda but more so. cali Aug 2012 #24
wwwooooowwww!!!! Two huge bastard liars! uponit7771 Aug 2012 #28
So his Great Grandfather built it? hootinholler Aug 2012 #30
And don't forget his father was a prominent attorney cali Aug 2012 #35
LA Times - Ryan Comes from Influence and Money from Inheritence K Gardner Aug 2012 #31
this story needs to go viral to counter the "liberal media" nonsense about his humble blue collar Douglas Carpenter Aug 2012 #32
That would be great cali Aug 2012 #34
Well, according to the TeaPubliKlans "middle class" extends from one penny above the poverty line TheKentuckian Aug 2012 #33
K&R Poor little privileged Pauly. Scuba Aug 2012 #39

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
1. We need to keep this front and center....
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 10:33 AM
Aug 2012

the GOP is framing Ryan as a middle class guy who is well-liked by blue collar workers. HAAAA!

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
3. kick. two rich white guys from privileged backgrounds.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 10:57 AM
Aug 2012

I'm not saying that you can't be wealthy and have compassion and "get it", but I am saying you can't be wealthy repubs from privileged backgrounds and have compassion and "get it".

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
5. But he got up early to drive the Oscar Meyer Weinermobile
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:31 AM
Aug 2012

to make money for his poor family. Then in the afternoon, he would go fishing with the guys from Oscar Meyer, presumable to put food on his starving widowed mother's table.

Or at least that's what Morning Edition told me this morning

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
17. He had a summer sales job
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 01:17 PM
Aug 2012

with Oscar Meyer while in college. He drove the hot dog hotrod once. He also worked as a senate intern while there. Social Security also helped pay his way through school, and the irony of that is apparently lost on Entitlement Boy.

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
36. And on those "liberal" "socialist/communists" at NPR
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 05:47 PM
Aug 2012

Such a crock of shit. I am serious - they painted a picture of a childhood where plucky young Paul got up at 4am to drive the weinermobile and work with the good old-fashioned salt-of-the-earth Wisconsin meat purveyors, who knocked off in the afternoon to fish, and being a good old country boy, he usually went a-fishin' with them.

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
6. This needs to be plastered everywhere. The media needs to be FORCED somehow
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:46 AM
Aug 2012

to deal with the real narrative and not the fake one. Good find.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
26. These two make the Bushes look like the Brady Bunch.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 02:58 PM
Aug 2012

They are more evil than I ever could hve imagined.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
12. According to Wiki, he used the SS benefits he received from ages 16-18
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 12:11 PM
Aug 2012

to pay for college. I would infer that those monthly checks went straight to a savings account. Nothing wrong with doing that, just don't pretend you got there by yourself!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
25. He's been getting a gubmint check since he was 28. Talk about biting the hand that feed him! nt
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 02:47 PM
Aug 2012

MADem

(135,425 posts)
38. I meant in his adult years--I know he got the benefit checks and applied them to college, supposedly
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 07:59 PM
Aug 2012

but I think the real question here is this:

"How many years were there that this pompous blowhard DID NOT RECEIVE some sort of US government check!"

TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
13. Just another reason for his antipathy towards "big government" ... and the EPA, in particular.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 12:20 PM
Aug 2012

It'd be interesting to know how many taxpayer dollars found their way into Ryan Central's coffers.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
20. their company wouldn't exist without the feds. started with contract work for the railroads (all
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 01:31 PM
Aug 2012

built on public land grants), continued into doing work on the federal highway system (expansion financed by the states and feds), and no doubt continues with any kind of similar work it can get today.

That's how they made their stake.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
15. Well, the stinking son of a seabiscuit has been mooching off the gubmint since he was 28.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 01:10 PM
Aug 2012

It's real easy for someone who is already vested in the gubmint retirement system, and is guaranteed a paycheck that will keep him comfy in his old age, to gripe about waste and what OTHERS do.

If he really wants to cut gubmint spending, start with the porkbarrel retirements that Congress hands out.

Insist that representatives work 50 weeks a year, instead of having childish "recesses" at every opportunity--stop treating the representation of the American people like a fucking grammar school playground.

Herman and Eddie Munster need to be sent packing. They are a nightmare for the American people.

Sedona

(3,769 posts)
16. From the OP Link
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 01:12 PM
Aug 2012

Ryan Incorporated Central has been shaping the earth since 1884. The Company started in Janesville, Wisconsin with a team of mules building railroad embankment in Southern Wisconsin and Northern Illinois. As it grew, it added road work and mining in the early 1900's. By the 1940's the Company had become a full-service grading contractor serving both private industrial and public transportation customers, including some of the original work at what would become O'Hare Airport. During the 1970's and 1980's, Ryan expanded its services to include landfill construction and waste remediation, and in the 1990's added golf course construction. Today, Ryan Incorporated Central is one of the nation's premier mass excavation and site-work contractors with expertise in residential, commercial, transportation, entertainment, energy and environmental work. This including extensive experience in power and industrial site-work, state-of-the-art municipal and industrial landfill construction and capping and full service golf course construction. The Company's project size ranges in dollar value from $10,000 to $50,000,000.

As the Company has grown its capabilities, it has also expanded geographically having successfully completed projects in over 25 states. While Janesville, Wisconsin is still the Company's corporate headquarters, it now has offices in Elgin, Illinois and Hagerstown, Maryland and a permanent presence throughout the Midwest and Mid-Atlantic regions.

From horses to motor scrapers, from railroad embankments to power plants, landfills, subdivisions and golf courses and from Wisconsin to Virginia, the company has evolved and grown over 125 years

shotten99

(622 posts)
18. I'm from Janesville, WI
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 01:26 PM
Aug 2012

and went to the same high school Paul went to. His cousins played Little League with me. He and his family are snobby, cliquey elitists who treat themselves like local royalty. Never had any time for them and sorely miss Les Aspin.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
19. The social security death benefit for minor children was not means-tested. Anyone who fit
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 01:29 PM
Aug 2012

the profile got it: Dead parent/guardian who'd paid into the system & had minor children.

It wasn't a welfare-type payment; people seem confused about that.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
21. Ryan is every bit the privileged
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 01:36 PM
Aug 2012

young boy that Romney is, and they are both as entitled. BOTH grew up in households and lives as assumed aristocracy. Neither of them would know what to do if they had a hardship in their life beyond their cell phone batteries being out of a charge.

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
23. Kinda like the "Rick Santorum grw up blue collar" myth....
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 01:56 PM
Aug 2012

..when it turns out, his GRANDFATHER was the one who grew up "blue-collar."

Or Bush being a good ole boy from Texas....

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
30. So his Great Grandfather built it?
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 03:40 PM
Aug 2012

The familial fortune that is.

Further, he built it off of Public Spending! They were building railroad gradients, for which massive amounts of land was given to RR companies by the Fed. Later they were grading roadbeds, more direct public spending.

I wonder what assets they (his branch) had available while collecting SSDB. Not that there was a means test then.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
35. And don't forget his father was a prominent attorney
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 05:29 PM
Aug 2012

And yes, Paul had an inheritance from the family biz.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
32. this story needs to go viral to counter the "liberal media" nonsense about his humble blue collar
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 04:59 PM
Aug 2012

beginnings.

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
33. Well, according to the TeaPubliKlans "middle class" extends from one penny above the poverty line
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 05:14 PM
Aug 2012

up to maybe ten million a year. It is consistent with their worldview and even if it is beyond pushing the envelope, even by their reckoning, we know all they do is lie and try to figure out how to frame the absurd as "common sense" while spinning bullshit yarns about the magic of elbow grease and bootstraps.

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