Understand This: You Will Need Medicare When You Get Old

[Yavin4]

There is no saving/investing strategy that you can use which will pay for your health needs when you are in your 60s. None. Ryan's vouchers WILL NOT COVER your insurance premiums.

If Ryan's plan is enacted, it will literally be a death sentence for anyone aged 55 and under. You're only option will be to move to another nation. You will not be able to live in the U.S. when you are 65 or older.

[RagAss]

1. There are so many dumb fuckers in this country who just don't understand this.....

They will die in the fucking streets like dogs.

[roguevalley]

23. I have good insurance and every so often I get a print out of the drugs I take to keep ticking

and the cost to the company. They send it because i'm doing healthy stuff and taking my medicine on a regular basis. I stopped adding it up when it topped five grand. That is five grand out of pocket and I have good insurance. You better get the medicare stuff out there, youngin's. Trust me.

[Warpy]

2. We got Medicare because no one over 65 could get health insurance.

Age disqualified them and insurance companies wouldn't write the policies. That meant one spouse used up all the retirement savings leaving the other spouse in penury with nothing left for their children, not even the family home or hockable jewelry.

Ryan is too young to remember that part.

[L0oniX]

5. That is what is happening to us right now.

[dsteve01]

17. Paul Ryan is Theft

Theft is something bad!

http://derekstevens01.blogspot.com/2012/08/paul-ryan-is-selfish-shortsighted.html

[awoke_in_2003]

27. No...

he is too rich to give a damn.

[Warpy]

30. Ryan? A treatable cancer would wipe him out financially

if he didn't have platinum plated health insurance from the gummint he's ungrateful enough to despise.

He's not that rich.

Romney is that rich. He could survive cancer followed by half a dozen organ transplants without it making a dent in his money.

[L0oniX]

3. 3 nights in a hospital $47,000 and they didn't find out what was wrong. Who can afford that?

Oh yea she "had" insurance who negotiated the bill down to $8500. So why was the bill 47k? They are vampires feeding off the pain and suffering of people. You would have to have 100's of thousands saved up to pay for the kind of health care you will need in your old age. Unless you are part of the 1% with out Medicare (@ a cost of $99 a month) you will either have to move out of the country or die! For that matter, who can afford $99 a month which doesn't include the cost of the witches brew they call medicine?

[davidpdx]

21. I got sick with pneumonia when I visited the US last summer

over $30,000 for five days. I had to have respiratory care and was isolated for the first 4 days (at least it was quite). She must have had a lot more tests then I did (of course they pretty much had an idea what was wrong with me from the get go as they had it narrowed down to three things). I hate going to the hospital even just for a check up.

[Skittles]

4. but that's the PLAN

they want all your money to go to private insurers, receive little health benefit (copays and deductibles will rule) and stay in debt

[CaliforniaPeggy]

6. I can certainly vouch for that.

I've had several health issues, none life-threatening, that have come along since I was eligible for Medicare. I am so happy to have it.

Many doctors in my area are still accepting Medicare patients, and that is a relief.

[riverbendviewgal]

7. It will be the death knell of Florida too

those retirees will be fewer in number.

[L0oniX]

8. They aren't moving down here anymore. They all lost their retirement money...

thanks to the banksters.

[DonCoquixote]

16. as someone dealign with medicare in Florida

I can testify to what you are saying.

[demosincebirth]

9. ...unless you're fucking rich like Rmoney and his ilk.

[dsteve01]

20. Mitt Romney is magical

Magical like a million flying unicorns.
Don't speak wrong of Mittens unless you wish to bring forth the might of Ayn Rand!

Now, how did that voodoo chant go again?

[kestrel91316]

10. This is how they plan to eliminate the useless eaters.

Anyone who is not a laborer for the 1% will be considered disposable.

[gkhouston]

11. Yes, you'll need it, even if you're extremely healthy now.

My mom had a mild stroke when she was 79. (She's recovered from it well.) The attending in ER was whomperjawed when she told him the last time she'd seen a doctor was to have her hand x-rayed after a slip on icy ground... 28 years previously.

[ErikJ]

12. Will I get the $6000 voucher even if I live in another country?

Because I'm emigrating to another country in a year or 2. Under today's Medicare I would not be covered living in another country.

[99th_Monkey]

15. Even by todays medical pricing

a $6000 voucher will buy like ONE overnight hospital visit, if that; depending
on what all they do while you are there.

Surgery $30,000 - 50,000 leaving YOU holding the bag for the rest of it.

[ErikJ]

18. But in dozens of other countries it would be 1/10th that!

[99th_Monkey]

26. That is so true

when I got the financial statement from my last surgery,
there were these weird obscure notions like
$7000 for "supplies" .. or $8000 for "medications"...
and I was only in for like 2-3 days.

Many have known for a long time that "war is a racket" .. now
we're learning the hard way that "Medical care is a racket" too.

[99th_Monkey]

13. Oh but I'll have my 401k, and my pension; so no problemo

Who needs Social Security and Medicare.

OOopsie!! What's that you say?

Wall Street crooks stole my pension funds??

Gee. I guess I should have voted Democratic after all in 2012.

[dsteve01]

19. Bernie Madoff was a great guy!

What did he do but steal a couple pension funds from a few old ladies?

He's a legitimate businessmen. Don't see what the big deal is.

There's nothing similar between the two of them.
Right?

http://derekstevens01.blogspot.com/2012/08/paul-ryan-is-selfish-shortsighted.html

[99th_Monkey]

25. Well I dunno. 2 peas in a pod, but one is running for VP and one is in prison

seems like a pretty noticeable difference to me.

[dsteve01]

28. Is there a difference?

Well, is there?

Bernie Madoff passed off a Ponzi scheme as legit. Paul Ryan passed off a Republican budget as legit.

[99th_Monkey]

29. Two peas in one pod

like I said already.. they're cut from same privileged cloth; but
there are also slight differences .. i.e. Ryan's working for Gov-mint
trying to obliterate Gov-mint and auction it off to the likes of Madoff,
for example. like a hand & a glove operation.

[dsteve01]

32. I bet

Mitt Romney was going to pick Madoff as his VP but then realized he's in jail.

That reminds me to buy cool gloves... I need a good writing glove.

[JDPriestly]

14. Check to see whether you need health insurance other than the healthcare

available in the country to which you are moving.

You may be covered automatically by the plan in the country where you move to.

You should check this before you go.

My brother-in-law went the UK on vacation, had some heart trouble. They treated him. No charge.

Make sure you research this before you go.

[Blue Owl]

22. The people want Medicare, not Idontcare.

Go fuck off, GOP...

[HiPointDem]

24. kr... or medicaid. but that carries stigma. but yeah, pretty much no one but the top 1% can cover

the potential medical bills of old age.

or even one bad break in young age.

[RebelOne]

31. Yes, tell me about it.

I was working up till 2010. I was on my employer's health plan. I was already old enough for Medicare, but my employer's health plan was much better. I paid $200 a month for life insurance, medical, dental and eye care. So I decided not to take Medicare. When I was laid off, I was thankful that I would be able to switch to Medicare. There were 3 other people laid off at the same time and they were all under 55. So, I considered myself fortunate to be able to switch to Medicare.

[NightWatcher]

33. or earlier if you should become disabled like me at 36

do you think I planned on getting diagnosed with two diseases?

[area51]

34. True, but

Everyone needs Medicare -- Medicare part E for Everyone, aka single-payer health care.