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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsChuck Todd spoke truth: "Older people want security, not choices in their health care."
Chuck, you were right on this morning, responding to Ryan blathering about giving seniors "choices" in their health care!
I love that the MSM is really giving Ryan the riot act. I really didn't expect them to be so rough on the guy. I guess you could say I'm pleasantly surprised...hope they keep it up and don't get silenced...
rfranklin
(13,200 posts)They are only "pro-choice" when it's about fleecing the vulnerable.
NRaleighLiberal
(59,940 posts)I trust none of them, and watch none of them.
get the red out
(13,459 posts)I don't know what these turds even mean by choice. When we had to move our Mom to assisted living due to her memory problems, my sister and I found appropriate doctors to fit her needs in every area, no problems with Medicare at all, she had plenty of choice and we simply sought the best medical professionals we could find. I just don't get the use of the word "choice"? It's all just a bunch of BS, seniors have to know they have plenty of choice, unless they absolutely have to have Ron Paul as a doctor, he won't take medicare, but he's also bat-shit crazy.
CTyankee
(63,771 posts)fine with me if he doesn't take medicare patients.
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)She appears to have a lot more choices and a lot less hassle about getting treatment than I did when I had insurance.
brewens
(13,400 posts)is that they are not grandfathered into anything. If they go along with screwing younger people, we won't be willing to keep paying for their health care. Medicare only works when everyone can count on it. Take that away and people will demand they just scrap it. That's what the right wants anyway.
Yavin4
(35,357 posts)So, they will have to go after existing senior citizens. That's the entire Republican trick. Always create a budget deficit through tax cuts, and use the deficit to gut social programs.
They need the deficit like they need Rowe v. Wade to keep getting anti-abortion votes. Like they need 9/11 to start wars. Like they need wars to keep up military spending.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Nice job buying into the Teabagger induced war pitting groups against one another. We are all better served when the fingerpointing stops and we address the task at hand.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)Even if they give the seniors vouchers to use at private insurance companies, the insurance companies will still have strict rules and regulations they have to follow to give certain benefits....which is basically the same system we have now.
Medicare and medicaid are currently ALREADY managed by private insurance, they just get paid as a contractor basically by the Govt. THIS WON"T CHANGE CARE AT ALL!!! It will just change who the checks are going to, and will make it more expensive.
get the red out
(13,459 posts)They will be able to choose which private insurance company will screw them out of both choice in doctors and benefits compared to what they have now. Just putting in a middle-man that will demand to be paid, which has to result in a loss to what is received in benefits.
trof
(54,255 posts)I don't need another layer of choices on top of that.
I wound up doing a cost-benefit analysis of several plans.
Turned out a lower monthly premium plan with a higher upfront deductible had less annual cost.
spanone
(135,636 posts)that's the choice they're bullshitting about
BeyondGeography
(39,284 posts)and not just on the health care front.
BumRushDaShow
(127,316 posts)then dammit, you should be able to walk into a medical facility and get treated when the time comes. Period.
I expect Schmuck Toad will shortly be schooled on ending any criticism and like a good little zombie, he will comply.
108vcd
(91 posts)security versus insecurity
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)This is one time when his elaboration of the obvious works for me.
CTyankee
(63,771 posts)These guys just amaze me. They think we haven't already figured this thing out?
Brilliant, Chuck, brilliant...
Romulox
(25,960 posts)drive the Republican Party.
Doctor Jack
(3,072 posts)If eventually more people in the media will move on from their infatuation with making this into a horse race and start really fearing the implications of the Romney-Ryan White House. This isn't George Bush screwing most people on tax cuts or sending some poor kids off to war that these reporters will never know (cynical argument intended). This could end up ruining their lives as well as all of ours. Hopefully they will wise up and see that Romney winning is an unacceptable outcome.
CTyankee
(63,771 posts)up in smoke if this crew gets into office! If they were required to pay for their elderly parents nursing home stay at the same time they have to pay for their kids' college tuition, they would feel the pain...
CanonRay
(14,038 posts)if they diss Social Security, they get a call, just like I would.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)the healthy food. That is what having to make the decision regarding who is going to be my insurer is like. Not to mention that most government workers are not allowed to give us advice. Medica is working for me now but I would still rather have a single payer health care system like Medicare used to be.
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)an election.
When people start waking up & realizing what kind of shit these bastards are pulling it will be a goldwateresq rout.
Blue Owl
(49,934 posts)n/t