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Yavin4

(35,405 posts)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 10:10 AM Aug 2012

Republicans Create A Crisis and Then Use Social Programs To Pay for the Crisis

First, they create a "deficit emergency" by cutting taxes on the wealthy. Then, they use the resulting deficit as a means to gut social programs. This allows them to seem "fiscally sane" and "sober stewards of the goverment".

This same pattern applies to military spending. They used 9/11 to start a war in Iraq, and then they use the war to maintain bloated military spending. John McCain wanted us to invade Libya, Egypt, and Syria in order to justify more military spending. Now, they want us to invade and occupy Iran which would mean even more military spending.

They are creating these emergencies because they cannot defeat social spending at the ballot box. Even with all of the propaganda by Fox and the corporate media, they still cannot convince the American people to vote against domestic spending programs such as Medicare, Social Security, and Education. They need a "deficit crisis" in order to make the arguments against social spending.

Here's my answer to the "fiscally sane": Let's return to the Clinton tax rates. Then, let's cut the defense budget down to a post-cold ware budget. Let's end the drug wars. Let's do the sensible spending first, and then let's talk about cutting social programs.

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Republicans Create A Crisis and Then Use Social Programs To Pay for the Crisis (Original Post) Yavin4 Aug 2012 OP
That's been the GOP's plan for about 3 decades ... JoePhilly Aug 2012 #1
Any discussion of the deficit that does not put EVERYTHING on the table for discusion Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2012 #2
EVERYTHING? malokvale77 Aug 2012 #4
Everything that actually has to do with the deficit (to clarify) Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2012 #5
Apology... malokvale77 Aug 2012 #8
They say they want "Shared Sacrifice" gollygee Aug 2012 #6
Exactly Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2012 #7
Slash social programs, slash social programs, slash social programs & they say WE don't have a plan. Scuba Aug 2012 #3
That's their M.O. Uncle Joe Aug 2012 #9
Yup - it's disaster capitalism, and they're creating the disasters. Lucy Goosey Aug 2012 #10
Read Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine" hifiguy Aug 2012 #11

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
1. That's been the GOP's plan for about 3 decades ...
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 10:12 AM
Aug 2012

They know the American people will not give up Social Security willingly, so when they have control, they try to bankrupt the country and claim that Social Security and Medicare are the reason.

They hope to scare Americans into giving up SS and Medicare freely.

On edit: This is what Grover Norqist means when he talks about shrinking government until its so small you can drown it in a bath tub.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,384 posts)
2. Any discussion of the deficit that does not put EVERYTHING on the table for discusion
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 10:12 AM
Aug 2012

is not a "serious" one IMHO. Republicans seem to only want to have a "discussion" about social spending, Medicare, Social Security, etc.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
4. EVERYTHING?
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 10:58 AM
Aug 2012

Social Security should not be on the table! They stole it from the trust fund, and now they need to just pay it back.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
6. They say they want "Shared Sacrifice"
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 11:09 AM
Aug 2012

but they define "shared" as "only people who aren't rich." Not only do rich people not have to sacrifice, they make money on everyone else's sacrifice.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
3. Slash social programs, slash social programs, slash social programs & they say WE don't have a plan.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 10:38 AM
Aug 2012
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
11. Read Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine"
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:43 PM
Aug 2012

if you haven't already. She lays out the entire scam in horrifying detail. It can all be traced back to that monster, Milton Friedman. Wherever his "ideas" are implemented death, suffering and police-state authoritarianism follow necessarily in their wake.

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