Help me with a rebuttal to this

[gollygee]

"Medicare will die regardless of whether the Republicans or Democrats win. The current budget shows that no one younger than (I've heard 55 and I've heard 53) will receive it because the program will be bankrupt."

I've said that there's a difference between planning to keep Medicare but needing to fix the funding, and wanting to get rid of Medicare to give tax cuts to billionaires, but I'd like something stronger.

[LaydeeBug]

1. It's complete BULLSHIT <<<<-------- seriously. There's your rebuttal.

Medicare is completely solvent for at least the next 20 years. Ask your person if they can name ONE CORPORATION, name ONE company that can claim solvency for the next 20 years. They *can't*. Not WalMart. Not Neiman Marcus. Not *one*. Anybody trying to tell you any different is telling you a damn lie, and call them on that BULLSHIT.

[sinkingfeeling]

2. Medicare can be saved without Ryan's vouchers. This is one set of

suggestions.

http://managedhealthcareexecutive.modernmedicine.com/savemedicare

[reformist2]

3. Price controls, rooting out the insidious kickback network, etc.

There are many, many things we can do with respect to cutting down on wasteful spending without cutting back on services provided. Get people to start thinking.

[CabCurious]

4. It's always been bankrupt. It's never budgeted indefinitely.

They've never "permanently" set it up for solvency.

[Scuba]

5. The Army will be bankrupt on June 30. Same with the Marines. I don't hear anyone saying ...

... the military "will die". It's all about priorities.

If we can't afford to educate our children, heal our sick and care for our elderly, just what is the defense budget defending?

[PDJane]

6. The wealth of the 1%, and it has always been thus.

I've been watching military actions and reading about earlier ones for almost 60 years, and I can tell you that all military actions from the dawn of time have been about wealth. The excuse for those actions has always been something like religion or insult or freedom. They always were about the stealing of resources and the power to do so.