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MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:08 PM Aug 2012

So ok, here is the latest email Anti-Obama PR I received

Subject: PRESIDENT CHANGES MILITARY FUNERALS


PRESIDENT CHANGES MILITARY FUNERALS
When I received this email, I could not believe it...
So, I checked with Snopes... I learned that it is TRUE:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/funeral.asp

There has been a change in the U.S.military burial protocol!
This is a letter that my good friend's husband wrote today after his uncle's funeral yesterday. If Obama does not want his name associated with our military, he does not deserve to be "The President of the United States". - Alice Frankovitch

REMEMBER THIS on NOVEMBER 6, 2012

Dear Sean,
Today I was incensed at the conclusion of a traditional Serbian-Orthodox funeral for my beloved 85-year-old uncle, Daniel Martich, who proudly served in theUSArmy during the Korean conflict. During the committal service at a Pittsburgh cemetery the local military detachment performed their ritual, then folded and presented the American Flag to my aunt.

As I'm sure you have witnessed during military funerals, a soldier bends to one knee and recites a scripted message to a surviving relative that begins 'On behalf of the President of the United States and a grateful nation, I wish to present you with this flag in appreciation for your husband's service ..'

However, today the dialogue was 'On behalf of the Secretary of Defense and a grateful nation..'

After the service, I approached the soldier who presented the flag to my aunt to inquire about the change in language. His response was: "The White House notified all military funeral service detachments to immediately remove 'the President' and insert 'the Secretary of Defense'.

I couldn't believe what I heard! The soldier just smiled and said, "You can draw your own conclusion, Sir, but that was the order". He, too, was ashamed of what he was required to say.

Obama has taken off the gloves. My only response to this endless cesspool of anti-American rhetoric dripping from his mouth is to borrow a phrase "with one minor change" uttered by another temporary Washingtonresident living in government housing (his wife!): "Today for the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of the current U.S. President!"

I did not serve in the military but my love of country parallels that of people like my late uncle who bled red, white and blue. As a second generation Serbian-American who's heritage produced many patriotic military men and women who fought for freedom both in theUnited Statesas well as in the formerYugoslavia(most recently in Kosovo against the slaughter of Serbs by Muslim extremists), I implore you to make the American people aware of this little-known or, at least, publicly acknowledged fact.

May God Bless you and your family during these difficult times. Your voice of reason is a welcome change from the insanity plastered across the country by the liberal media. Keep up the great work and thank you for your service to our country.

Sincerely,
John G. Martich

PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO FRIENDS AND REMEMBER 2012 IS TIME FOR A NEW PRESIDENT AND COMMANDER IN CHIEF

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So what is the deal with the thing?

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So ok, here is the latest email Anti-Obama PR I received (Original Post) MichiganVote Aug 2012 OP
Snopes says FALSE. FLyellowdog Aug 2012 #1
I did read it. Guess they don't expect most people will. Are these meant to snatch people's emails MichiganVote Aug 2012 #10
They count on their base not to follow up. n/t Bonhomme Richard Aug 2012 #31
great, it must be true then quinnox Aug 2012 #2
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/military/a/Military-Funeral-Protocol.htm blm Aug 2012 #3
The Snopes link states that the rumor is false, and then LeftinOH Aug 2012 #4
Yes I expected as much. But there are so many of them that are tossed around. Just wondering. MichiganVote Aug 2012 #18
Um...I clicked on the link...Snopes said FALSE! CJCRANE Aug 2012 #5
My guess too RockaFowler Aug 2012 #11
Yes I realize that. So just wondering if there is something more to these things. MichiganVote Aug 2012 #14
I don't know... CJCRANE Aug 2012 #17
Like he would bother. Prolly pays some student somewhere 2 do it. MichiganVote Aug 2012 #19
The Snopes link says FALSE--sender assumes idiots won't look Maeve Aug 2012 #6
Read your link. librarylu Aug 2012 #7
I did read it. But am wondering why something that says it is false would be sent. MichiganVote Aug 2012 #12
Are you kidding? That's standard repuke procedure. cali Aug 2012 #15
Because the truth isn't bad KurtNYC Aug 2012 #34
the deal with the thing is included in what you posted at the link you included CBGLuthier Aug 2012 #8
Having had the displeasure of performing this horrific duty several times... Scuba Aug 2012 #9
Why did you waste all that time posting this when your link says it is false? upaloopa Aug 2012 #13
I think I was probably hoping you would waste your time too. MichiganVote Aug 2012 #16
The B.S. Spreaders are getting more sophisticated ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #20
The media, the political parties, the churches etc. all seem to want to do MichiganVote Aug 2012 #21
E-mails like that make "Reply All" so much fun! GoCubsGo Aug 2012 #26
What? Snopes says it is FALSE. At the link posted. sinkingfeeling Aug 2012 #22
Yup. Sure does. And so far everyone who has responded as taken MichiganVote Aug 2012 #23
Yeah ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #33
When I get crap like this I "Reply to ALL" Sheepshank Aug 2012 #24
I am surprised that... GoCubsGo Aug 2012 #28
Actually I don't...never have Sheepshank Aug 2012 #29
I actually see that more on message boards, etc. GoCubsGo Aug 2012 #32
ROFL. That would be pretty easy to reply to. gollygee Aug 2012 #25
I really don't remember them telling me that Jazzgirl Aug 2012 #27
I've gotten stuff saying incorrectly "snopes says it true". I check, reply all that that is false. I uppityperson Aug 2012 #30
Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #35
Oh honey, you in the hood here baby, time to go! MichiganVote Sep 2012 #36
 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
10. I did read it. Guess they don't expect most people will. Are these meant to snatch people's emails
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:16 PM
Aug 2012

for marketing. They're all weird.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
2. great, it must be true then
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:10 PM
Aug 2012


It is just another example of the garbage floating around the internet, there are a million of them.

LeftinOH

(5,353 posts)
4. The Snopes link states that the rumor is false, and then
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:12 PM
Aug 2012

explains it in detail. So.. somebody isn't reading it correctly. Basically, any internet rumor which states that Obama has changed ____________ (fill in the blank), it's fake.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
5. Um...I clicked on the link...Snopes said FALSE!
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:12 PM
Aug 2012

They're relying on the fact that most people won't read the link.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
17. I don't know...
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:22 PM
Aug 2012

Maybe Karl Rove is sitting in a darkened room somewhere typing out all these chain emails...

Maeve

(42,279 posts)
6. The Snopes link says FALSE--sender assumes idiots won't look
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:13 PM
Aug 2012

E-blast everyone in the chain with a "why would the sender lie????" message

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
34. Because the truth isn't bad
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 02:11 PM
Aug 2012

Why does Romney quote Obama out of context and twist it?

Because his campaign poured over every word Obama ever said and couldn't find one damned thing to use. They lie because they HAVE to lie. They have nothing else.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
8. the deal with the thing is included in what you posted at the link you included
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:14 PM
Aug 2012

WTF is there even a pretense of confusion?

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
9. Having had the displeasure of performing this horrific duty several times...
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:16 PM
Aug 2012

... while serving on the Military Airlift Command Honor Guard I recall vividly what I was instructed to say to the grieving loved one: "On behalf of a grateful nation..." No mention of the President.

This was circa 1971; we were honoring service members lost during the Viet Nam war. I specifically asked the NCO in charge of the Honor Guard what I was to say. That was his answer. I recall thinking the nation didn't seem very damned grateful to me.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
13. Why did you waste all that time posting this when your link says it is false?
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:18 PM
Aug 2012

Posting it here is a supposed to get you what?

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
16. I think I was probably hoping you would waste your time too.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:21 PM
Aug 2012

Actually I was wondering why these things spin around the web as in, more than the anti-obama things. But if you prefer to get all conspiracy minded, suit yourself.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
20. The B.S. Spreaders are getting more sophisticated ...
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:25 PM
Aug 2012
When I received this email, I could not believe it...
So, I checked with Snopes... I learned that it is TRUE

They figured they'd save anyone the trouble of having to actually check what Snopes said on the topic ... they checked it out for you and said that snopes said it's true!

Like the pundit said, "The internet will make smart people smarter and dumb people dumber."
 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
21. The media, the political parties, the churches etc. all seem to want to do
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:27 PM
Aug 2012

all of our thinking for us. Too bad people give up good brain power to any or all. Must be all that critical thinking they are teaching in the schools these days.

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
26. E-mails like that make "Reply All" so much fun!
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:02 PM
Aug 2012

That kind of screed deserves this reply, using "Reply All" so that everyone sees it: "Well, if you really checked with Snopes, then you either have have serious reading comprehension problems, or you are a goddamn liar who thinks his/her friends are too damn stupid and lazy to check for themselves. Here is the link, BTW..."

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
23. Yup. Sure does. And so far everyone who has responded as taken
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:49 PM
Aug 2012

the time to click on the snopes link. So I ask myself, just how effective are these stupid things? Not much for Democrats it seems.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
33. Yeah ...
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 02:11 PM
Aug 2012

This is what is leading to the down-fall of the Democratic party ... our collective need for verifying facts; even on matters that we agree with.

Imagine how "strong" we'd be if we did not rely on facts and truth? We'd have legions of the public hanging on our every word and legislators that would follow instructions!

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
24. When I get crap like this I "Reply to ALL"
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:50 PM
Aug 2012

and include the debunking sites....SNOPES and Urban Legends

I don't get these types of e-mails any more

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
28. I am surprised that...
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:05 PM
Aug 2012

...you don't get any replies claiming that Snopes lies or has unreliable sources. That's the current wingnut answer whenever I use Snopes to debunk any of that kind of shit.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
29. Actually I don't...never have
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:08 PM
Aug 2012

I think perhaps the people in my e-mail circle, aren't as rabidly right (or as secure in their mis-information) as the people in your email circle lol

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
32. I actually see that more on message boards, etc.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:48 PM
Aug 2012

People have learned not to send right wing shit to me.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
25. ROFL. That would be pretty easy to reply to.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:55 PM
Aug 2012

Just tell them to click on the link and then apologize to everyone they sent that to.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
30. I've gotten stuff saying incorrectly "snopes says it true". I check, reply all that that is false. I
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:11 PM
Aug 2012

am not sure why people don't check as it is obvious that someones are sending these out, hoping they will stick.

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