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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo ok, here is the latest email Anti-Obama PR I received
Subject: PRESIDENT CHANGES MILITARY FUNERALS
PRESIDENT CHANGES MILITARY FUNERALS
When I received this email, I could not believe it...
So, I checked with Snopes... I learned that it is TRUE:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/funeral.asp
There has been a change in the U.S.military burial protocol!
This is a letter that my good friend's husband wrote today after his uncle's funeral yesterday. If Obama does not want his name associated with our military, he does not deserve to be "The President of the United States". - Alice Frankovitch
REMEMBER THIS on NOVEMBER 6, 2012
Dear Sean,
Today I was incensed at the conclusion of a traditional Serbian-Orthodox funeral for my beloved 85-year-old uncle, Daniel Martich, who proudly served in theUSArmy during the Korean conflict. During the committal service at a Pittsburgh cemetery the local military detachment performed their ritual, then folded and presented the American Flag to my aunt.
As I'm sure you have witnessed during military funerals, a soldier bends to one knee and recites a scripted message to a surviving relative that begins 'On behalf of the President of the United States and a grateful nation, I wish to present you with this flag in appreciation for your husband's service ..'
However, today the dialogue was 'On behalf of the Secretary of Defense and a grateful nation..'
After the service, I approached the soldier who presented the flag to my aunt to inquire about the change in language. His response was: "The White House notified all military funeral service detachments to immediately remove 'the President' and insert 'the Secretary of Defense'.
I couldn't believe what I heard! The soldier just smiled and said, "You can draw your own conclusion, Sir, but that was the order". He, too, was ashamed of what he was required to say.
Obama has taken off the gloves. My only response to this endless cesspool of anti-American rhetoric dripping from his mouth is to borrow a phrase "with one minor change" uttered by another temporary Washingtonresident living in government housing (his wife!): "Today for the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of the current U.S. President!"
I did not serve in the military but my love of country parallels that of people like my late uncle who bled red, white and blue. As a second generation Serbian-American who's heritage produced many patriotic military men and women who fought for freedom both in theUnited Statesas well as in the formerYugoslavia(most recently in Kosovo against the slaughter of Serbs by Muslim extremists), I implore you to make the American people aware of this little-known or, at least, publicly acknowledged fact.
May God Bless you and your family during these difficult times. Your voice of reason is a welcome change from the insanity plastered across the country by the liberal media. Keep up the great work and thank you for your service to our country.
Sincerely,
John G. Martich
PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO FRIENDS AND REMEMBER 2012 IS TIME FOR A NEW PRESIDENT AND COMMANDER IN CHIEF
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So what is the deal with the thing?
FLyellowdog
(4,276 posts)Read the article.
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)for marketing. They're all weird.
Bonhomme Richard
(9,000 posts)quinnox
(20,600 posts)It is just another example of the garbage floating around the internet, there are a million of them.
blm
(113,037 posts)LeftinOH
(5,353 posts)explains it in detail. So.. somebody isn't reading it correctly. Basically, any internet rumor which states that Obama has changed ____________ (fill in the blank), it's fake.
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)They're relying on the fact that most people won't read the link.
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)I see these all the time. Let me get outraged at Obama for no reason!!
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)Maybe Karl Rove is sitting in a darkened room somewhere typing out all these chain emails...
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)Maeve
(42,279 posts)E-blast everyone in the chain with a "why would the sender lie????" message
librarylu
(503 posts)Snopes says it's FALSE.
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)Why does Romney quote Obama out of context and twist it?
Because his campaign poured over every word Obama ever said and couldn't find one damned thing to use. They lie because they HAVE to lie. They have nothing else.
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)WTF is there even a pretense of confusion?
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... while serving on the Military Airlift Command Honor Guard I recall vividly what I was instructed to say to the grieving loved one: "On behalf of a grateful nation..." No mention of the President.
This was circa 1971; we were honoring service members lost during the Viet Nam war. I specifically asked the NCO in charge of the Honor Guard what I was to say. That was his answer. I recall thinking the nation didn't seem very damned grateful to me.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Posting it here is a supposed to get you what?
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)Actually I was wondering why these things spin around the web as in, more than the anti-obama things. But if you prefer to get all conspiracy minded, suit yourself.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)So, I checked with Snopes... I learned that it is TRUE
They figured they'd save anyone the trouble of having to actually check what Snopes said on the topic ... they checked it out for you and said that snopes said it's true!
Like the pundit said, "The internet will make smart people smarter and dumb people dumber."
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)all of our thinking for us. Too bad people give up good brain power to any or all. Must be all that critical thinking they are teaching in the schools these days.
GoCubsGo
(32,078 posts)That kind of screed deserves this reply, using "Reply All" so that everyone sees it: "Well, if you really checked with Snopes, then you either have have serious reading comprehension problems, or you are a goddamn liar who thinks his/her friends are too damn stupid and lazy to check for themselves. Here is the link, BTW..."
sinkingfeeling
(51,444 posts)MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)the time to click on the snopes link. So I ask myself, just how effective are these stupid things? Not much for Democrats it seems.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)This is what is leading to the down-fall of the Democratic party ... our collective need for verifying facts; even on matters that we agree with.
Imagine how "strong" we'd be if we did not rely on facts and truth? We'd have legions of the public hanging on our every word and legislators that would follow instructions!
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)and include the debunking sites....SNOPES and Urban Legends
I don't get these types of e-mails any more
GoCubsGo
(32,078 posts)...you don't get any replies claiming that Snopes lies or has unreliable sources. That's the current wingnut answer whenever I use Snopes to debunk any of that kind of shit.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)I think perhaps the people in my e-mail circle, aren't as rabidly right (or as secure in their mis-information) as the people in your email circle lol
GoCubsGo
(32,078 posts)People have learned not to send right wing shit to me.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Just tell them to click on the link and then apologize to everyone they sent that to.
Jazzgirl
(3,744 posts)as they handed me the flag at my Dad's funeral. I call BS.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)am not sure why people don't check as it is obvious that someones are sending these out, hoping they will stick.
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