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maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:55 PM Aug 2012

Mitt Romney’s constitutional amendment would bar Paul Ryan from the presidency LOL!

Three years ago, Mitt Romney proposed a constitutional amendment that would say “the president has to spend three years working in business before he becomes president of the United States. Then he or she would understand that the policies they are putting into place have to encourage small business to grow.”

As Andrew Kaczsynski notes, that provision would disqualify Paul Ryan, who has spent his life working for the government, first as a congressional staffer and then as a congressman.

To be clear about the point here, I think this reflects how dumb Romney’s proposed constitutional amendment is, not Ryan’s fitness for the presidency. It also reflects Romney’s tendency to take positions strategically without carefully considering their long-term impact. When he made that comment, was it really so difficult for him to imagine naming a vice president without business experience? That would, for instance, disqualify career military men, like Gen. David Petraeus.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/08/13/mitt-romneys-constitutional-amendment-would-bar-paul-ryan-from-the-presidency/

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Mitt Romney’s constitutional amendment would bar Paul Ryan from the presidency LOL! (Original Post) maddezmom Aug 2012 OP
Well Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2012 #1
How stupid. Try making them spend three years on minimum wage instead!! arcane1 Aug 2012 #2
+1 nichomachus Aug 2012 #4
well said dsteve01 Aug 2012 #27
+1 K8-EEE Aug 2012 #14
The best idea evilhime Aug 2012 #28
Just the notion of it is stupid--why is business experience that important? TwilightGardener Aug 2012 #3
It's because nichomachus Aug 2012 #5
Yep. A lot of talented people work hard at their business, but few succeed. reformist2 Aug 2012 #9
It's because people like Romney made a lot of money and they think they're fucking geniuses. bulloney Aug 2012 #19
The easiest way to become a millionaire nichomachus Aug 2012 #20
And also-- ANOIS Aug 2012 #16
GOP will never understand that the government is not supposed to be run like a business! reformist2 Aug 2012 #6
+1 RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #12
Which only shows that Romney is completely unsuited to being President Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #7
Yeah LOL isn't Ryan a "career politician" with "no executive experience?" K8-EEE Aug 2012 #8
New slogan? The Romney/Ryan Plan: Not very well thought out. FSogol Aug 2012 #10
Was Willard by any chance drunk when he proposed this? (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #11
If we amend the constitution again, it should be to define a PERSON as an actual PERSON. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #13
Stupid, privileged, rich kid. Scuba Aug 2012 #15
That is too funny! nt DesertRat Aug 2012 #17
As usual, Romney would write the law to service his very specific clique. Marr Aug 2012 #18
Let's see, who were the last 3 presidents who campaigned on their business leadership experience? bulloney Aug 2012 #21
How many businesses go under in a year? Kalidurga Aug 2012 #22
As Commander in Chief, shouldn't the president be required to have active duty military experience? yardwork Aug 2012 #23
Nixon and H.W. Bush were both in the Navy during WWII... RevStPatrick Aug 2012 #29
That's right. I knew that about Poppy. He ditched a plane. yardwork Aug 2012 #30
No worries. RevStPatrick Aug 2012 #32
I knew that about Reagan but I don't think it counts. yardwork Aug 2012 #34
Romney's style unionthug Aug 2012 #24
Doesn't Ryan's time as the Oscar Meyer Weiner count? mainstreetonce Aug 2012 #25
Driving the weinermobile doesn't count, eh? nt MADem Aug 2012 #26
I propose a constitutional amendment. GoCubsGo Aug 2012 #31
Sounded like a good idea to him when it would bar Obama gollygee Aug 2012 #33

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
4. +1
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:02 PM
Aug 2012

Yes, make them spend three year working on their feet for nine hours a day and minimum wage -- with no benefits.

evilhime

(326 posts)
28. The best idea
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 03:55 PM
Aug 2012

I have heard this season . . . yes let them live on minimum wage with whatever that allows them to afford re health care, food, housing, etc. Oh man, I would love to see that amendment!!!

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
3. Just the notion of it is stupid--why is business experience that important?
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:02 PM
Aug 2012

Why not academic experience? Legal experience? Medical? Engineering? I guess I'm in the minority that can't understand WTF is so magical about selling shit and accounting for it.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
5. It's because
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:05 PM
Aug 2012

people like Romney made a lot of money and they think they're fucking geniuses.

I once worked for a Fortune 500 company that was doing very well. The founder had invented a product that the market needed at the time and he made a ton of money and built a big company. Made a few other products that hit the market at just the right time. He thought he was a genius.

Their top salesman lucked into selling a much-needed product with no competition in a market segment that dearly needed what he was selling. Basically, he was an order-taker -- sort of like the guy who's at the ice cream stand at the beach on a hot day.

Anyway, genius founder thought that top salesman was a genius too and named him CEO. The company went from Fortune 500 to out of business.

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
19. It's because people like Romney made a lot of money and they think they're fucking geniuses.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 03:07 PM
Aug 2012

I agree with your assessment of the prevailing mindset in this country, nicomachus.

How hard is it being wealthy when you were already born that way?

ANOIS

(112 posts)
16. And also--
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 02:56 PM
Aug 2012

What about Education? Clergy? the Arts? Literary careers? The Service Industry?

It goes on & on.

RedStateLiberal

(1,374 posts)
12. +1
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:14 PM
Aug 2012

I wish they'd try to explain how being only interested in making profit has anything to do with helping form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity as outlined in the Constitution.

I guess they think balancing the budget is the only concern they should have. It's much more complicated than that.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
7. Which only shows that Romney is completely unsuited to being President
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:09 PM
Aug 2012

because he doesn't seem to understand how government should work. In most liberal democracies, politics is a profession; one goes to university, takes a degree in history and economics or political science, joins the debating team, and so on, to learn the foundations and principles of political thought on the one hand and the skills of persuasive argument and presentation on the other. Then one goes to work as a parliamentary aide or staffer and if selected by the party eventually may stand at election for a vacant seat. In most advanced liberal democracies, having elected representatives who actually understand the theory of how governments are supposed to work, of economics, of law, and so on is considered a good thing; it's only in the US, it seems, where people have the frankly crack-brained notion that a businessman will make a better Senator or President than a constitutional law professor or economist.

K8-EEE

(15,667 posts)
8. Yeah LOL isn't Ryan a "career politician" with "no executive experience?"
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:09 PM
Aug 2012

God they are so full of shit, their dumbass rhetoric is going to come back at them big time and watch them DROWN explaining this stuff, KARMA'S A BITCH....ROFLMAO!

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
21. Let's see, who were the last 3 presidents who campaigned on their business leadership experience?
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 03:11 PM
Aug 2012

Bush the Lesser
Herbert Hoover
Calvin Coolidge

Architects of the two worst depressions of the past century. How did that work for us?

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
23. As Commander in Chief, shouldn't the president be required to have active duty military experience?
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 03:19 PM
Aug 2012

Does this mean that we can retroactively revoke all the presidents who never served? Let's start with Nixon, moving on through Reagan and both Bushes...

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
30. That's right. I knew that about Poppy. He ditched a plane.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 04:03 PM
Aug 2012

I didn't know that Tricky Dick actually served. My bad. Thanks for understanding my point. Next time I'll fact check first.

 

RevStPatrick

(2,208 posts)
32. No worries.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 04:20 PM
Aug 2012

Actually, Reagan served as well.
In the propaganda unit.

Clinton and Obama never served.
I certainly don't hold it against them...

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
34. I knew that about Reagan but I don't think it counts.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 05:33 PM
Aug 2012

Maybe that's not fair.

Right, we don't hold it against Clinton and Obama because we aren't the ones going around saying ridiculous things like Romney does.

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
31. I propose a constitutional amendment.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 04:13 PM
Aug 2012

It will ban any blithering idiot, who cannot comprehend that there is far more to running the government than catering to small businesses (or business, in general), from becoming President of the United States. And, it will ban any blithering idiot who believes that the government should be run as a business, and who does not understand why it should not be. run as a business.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
33. Sounded like a good idea to him when it would bar Obama
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 04:26 PM
Aug 2012

Not so good when it would bar Ryan.

It was just an anti-Obama thing. He would have tried to ban people with the initials B.H.O. if he'd thought of it.

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