Poll: Paul Ryan's early numbers worst since Dan Quayle

[greatauntoftriplets]

Mitt Romney picking Paul Ryan as his running mate may have sparked new interest in his campaign and invigorated the Republican base, but more Americans than not have a less-than-stellar opinion of the Wisconsin congressman.

A new USA Today/Gallup Poll found that 42% see Ryan as a “fair” or “poor” choice, compared with 39% who rate him as “pretty good” or “excellent.”

The only vice presidential nominee who has polled worse following their introduction to the public is Dan Quayle, who in 1988 was seen as “fair” or “poor” by 52% of Americans.

PHOTOS: Paul Ryan's past

Seventeen percent of adults say that Ryan’s candidacy makes them more likely to vote for Romney, slightly less than 18% of Americans who said the same for John McCain following Sarah Palin’s vice presidential nomination in 2008. Thirty-six percent of Republicans polled are more likely to vote for Romney following the Ryan unveiling though, 6 points greater than the Palin boost for McCain in 2008.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/la-pn-poll-paul-ryans-early-numbers-worst-since-dan-quayle-20120813,0,4769997.story

[progressivebydesign]

1. Noticed that Ryan is NOT a trending search on Yahoo at all.

He's conspicuously absent. Guess they already know his shit!

[pepperbear]

2. this might seem funny, but please remember that bush/quayle won in 1988, which is only to say that

people could be that stupid.

[californiamike49]

17. Yes, they won, but never forget ...

... that they ran against the legendary Michael "Tank" Dukakis.

[Blue Owl]

3. Good ol' J. Paulforth Ryan

Takes a rotten potato(e) to know one!

[MADem]

4. Gee, I wonder how he spells "potato?"

I can see why the "varmint hunter" liked him, though--he likes posing with dead deer.

And his humble, middle class house? That thing looks like a frigging mansion!


Those pics at the link are very revealing!

[eppur_se_muova]

7. He doesn't spell it -- he wants to privatize it. nt

[Rosa Luxemburg]

28. Good one!

[Drunken Irishman]

5. What's scary is that Bush went on to win that election in a landslide...

[Freddie]

6. Dukakis was a weak candidate IMO

Went to vote that year at our local school and had our daughter, then 2, with us. Waiting quietly in line she says "George Bush is a jerk!" thankfully everybody laughed. Yes she learned that at home!
She's a good Democrat now.

[DearAbby]

10. Obama isn't a Dukakis.

Nor do you seem to give him credit where it is due. Obama Campaign are on their game. We have to depend on our message and the GOTV. Stop with the fucking hand-wringing. We have work to do.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

29. I agree!

[penndragon69]

33. No...

Romney is today's Dukakis !

[WI_DEM]

11. he was the last dem to win West Virginia

in a presidential election--except for Clinton. Strange.

[yardwork]

12. Notice how the Republicans made a point of going after WV, MN, and WI.

The Rethuglicans made sure that those states went red in later elections. Can we get them back?

[tblue]

15. Michigan. Florida. Repubs plan ahead.

The whole idea in winning those governorships all along was to rig the apparatus for this election. Obama will have an uphill fight no matter how many people come out to vote for him. The DoJ better be on its toes right now! Election Day will be too late to cry foul.

Why isn't Obama making a public case against disenfranchisement??? Why didn't anybody in Wisconsin after the last two off-year elections that clearly were rigged? Too freaking patient the Demicratic party!

[Puglover]

32. Minnesota hasn't voted Red since 1972 Yardie!

[yardwork]

34. I didn't realize that! So Michele Bachmann is kind of an anomaly?

Good for Minnesota!

I wish that my state would go back Democratic.

[Puglover]

43. Yes, she is very much an anomaly.

Keith Ellison is my congress critter.

[tblue]

14. But, God bless him, the Dem was Mondale.

I love him but he didn't have that certain something. Obama does.

[lastlib]

20. (Uh, Mondale was in '84. It was Dukakis in '88....)

[Safetykitten]

24. Yes, odd is it not? He went on to become VP. Well, don't mind us whistling past the graveyard.

Oh, and that map? That will be 2012's map. A sea of red. Except for California and Illinois.

[n2doc]

25. Only in your dreams n/t

[Drunken Irishman]

26. Yup. Obama's only going to win two states.

Do you have any evidence to suggest this or are you just pulling it out of your ass?

[uponit7771]

27. What was wrong with Dukakis?! Regards

[Drunken Irishman]

30. He was an awful candidate.

Who mishandled an election the Democrats had no business losing.

[JI7]

36. no he wasn't. but we learned a lot about negative attacks and other things from

that campaign and future ones.

Dukakis was hurt when people didn't find his answer emotional enough when asked about his wife being raped or murdered or something like that.

but he was doing ok much of the time.

[Drunken Irishman]

37. He was a bad candidate...

Even Dukakis admitted he ran a bad campaign. He was a good guy, a great governor and a lousy candidate.

[uponit7771]

41. Was he not responsive to attacks etc?

[Johonny]

31. nothing, they smeared him mercilessly

Much like they did to Kerry. The MSM couldn't get over that Reagan era ended badly just as they couldn't believe Bushes first term was terrible. They carried Bushes water like no ones business and savaged Dukakis's wife, blamed him for things totally uncontrollable, and never ever brought up Iran Contra...

Much like the 2004 election about two years after the election no one wanted the "winner" anymore.

[Art_from_Ark]

42. Don't forget the "Willie Horton" ads

Especially the ones that depicted murderers going through a revolving door in the Massachusetts prison system. Those ads were probably what hurt Dukakis the most.

[HiPointDem]

8. not a good example: quayle's team won.

[TeamPooka]

13. my first thought too

[JI7]

35. but Obama is incumbant and Bush had been serving as VP, and they lost in 1992

and i believe Dukakis was doing ok until the question about death penalty and something about if his wife was raped.

[HiPointDem]

39. what?

[JI7]

40. well, question about IF someone raped his wife

what should happen to them. i don't remember the exact question but i think it was asked if it was his wife .

but his response wasn't considered emotional enough . and he had been attacked with the whole willie horton and being soft on crime thing so that stuck out.

[sonias]

9. Mitt is such a great decider

Isn't he? He really should find a country perfectly suited to his lack of quality decision making. I'm sure there are other countries he'd fit in better.

Oh I know just the country Amercia. They're probably going nuts over this decision in Amercia.

http://amerciaiswithmitt.tumblr.com/

[mick063]

16. Bush/Quayle was still riding the Reagan coat tails.

The GOP was much more moderate back then as well.

Comparing the extremism of Ryan with the basic incompetence of Quayle is apples and oranges.

Quayle was young at the time and any competent GOP politician in his shoes would have been set up for a promising presidential run when his turn came around. The general public quickly dismissed Quayle as a candidate and Quayle jokes went viral before there was an internet. That is how incompetent he was perceived to be.

Ryan is a different animal. He brings a very scary brand of political philosophy to the table. He isn't a man that will be laughed at. He is a man that will be feared. The negatives for Ryan are much worse than the negatives were for Quayle. Back then, folks didn't expect radical change when the GOP came in to power. Now they do.

[lastlib]

21. Paul Ryan is Dick Cheney with up-to-date distemper shots...

Watch your backs--

And GOTV!!!!

[reformist2]

18. Ryan isn't a dodo like Quayle.

[californiamike49]

19. The worst thing about Ryan ...

... is the way the mainstream media treats him like a reasonable man. This morning's Washington Post referred to him in the lede as "deficit hawk" Paul Ryan. Ain't it grand how you can still spend money on massive tax cuts for the rich and be considered a deficit hawk?

[HangOnKids]

22. Hi Mike! Great Post

Good to see another CA Democrat. Welcome.

[bhikkhu]

38. Yes - while if you look at his proposals he's more of a RW radical

or an extremist looking not to govern, but to overturn.

[malthaussen]

23. Even Gallup can't polish this turd n/t