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gulliver

(13,168 posts)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 07:14 PM Aug 2012

The Romney/Ryan plan is just a sneaky trap. They've lost the election.

Last edited Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:36 PM - Edit history (1)

No over-55 senior in their right mind would believe that letting the Republicans screw younger workers would be a one-act play. The second the Romney/Ryan "gradual" Plan passed the Republican Congress and was signed into law, the Republicans would pull out one of their beloved privatization bills. Paul Ryan and his idol George W. Bush were big privatizers, and now there would be no reason for younger workers not to go along. The Republicans would pass privatization without a roll call. Dems wouldn't be able to fight it, because they would be in the minority and because younger workers would be so universally in favor of it.

Then younger workers would pull out of the system in droves, de-funding both Social Security and Medicare.

Why are Republicans playing dangerous political games like this with people's lives and retirement security? Even bringing up a generational divide-and-conquer scheme like this is irresponsible. It's not bold, it's crazy. Either Republicans don't know how destructive they are, or they do.

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The Romney/Ryan plan is just a sneaky trap. They've lost the election. (Original Post) gulliver Aug 2012 OP
They're like a computer virus... Arugula Latte Aug 2012 #1
If the Republicans lose - and they will - you can bet they'll try impeachment. Initech Aug 2012 #2
Also, setting up Ryan for 2016 Presidential race n/t Teamster Jeff Aug 2012 #3
I was just on AARP's message board; he is going to have to pull out a win, without them. justice1 Aug 2012 #5
This "generational divide-and-conquer scheme" customerserviceguy Aug 2012 #4
All four of my 4 grandparents are on Medicare and SS. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #6
Good luck with that. RagAss Aug 2012 #7
Both my Republican parents considered people on SS and Medicare freeloaders NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #8
 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
1. They're like a computer virus...
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 07:16 PM
Aug 2012

They'll sneak into your system under false pretenses, and then proceed to destroy it entirely.

Initech

(100,041 posts)
2. If the Republicans lose - and they will - you can bet they'll try impeachment.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 07:33 PM
Aug 2012

But the really scary thing - the difference now is that you bet they have not only the votes but also the financial power to remove Obama from office. And they will be able to achieve that under Citizens United.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
4. This "generational divide-and-conquer scheme"
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:33 PM
Aug 2012

as you put it, was baked into the cake. We've known since 1964 that there was a baby bust, with successively smaller generations following the baby boom. But the politicians from both parties who couldn't think beyond the next election just didn't care.

Money should have been put aside in regular, negotiable Treasury securities. That would have severely limited the ability of Congress to rob the Trust Fund of its surplus built up during the years the baby boomers hit their most productive parts of their working lives.

I've long said that if the boomers didn't reform Social Security when they held political power, that our children and grandchildren would gladly put a bullet through our heads to avoid paying the burden we left them, and that we might just deserve it. Paul Ryan is standing there handing them the gun.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
6. All four of my 4 grandparents are on Medicare and SS.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:36 PM
Aug 2012

Sadly, they're all Republicans but maybe this'll make 'em think a bit.

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
8. Both my Republican parents considered people on SS and Medicare freeloaders
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:58 PM
Aug 2012

But they both signed up for it soon as they could.

Then it became everyone except for themselves who were collecting it were freeloaders.

I suspect this is the typical way Republicans think.

Don

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