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struggle4progress

(118,273 posts)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:49 PM Aug 2012

Who has Julian Assange screwed over the most thoroughly?

Assange boasts of having fathered at least four children around the world
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-02-11/europe/28547900_1_daniel-domscheit-berg-julian-assange-wikileaks-founder
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1355853/WikiLeaks-Julian-Assange-fathered-4-love-children-friend-claims-tell-book.html

Regarding the accusations of his Swedish girlfriends, Assange has sometimes said they were simply jealous of each other, and at other times he has suggested that he was caught in a covert US honeytrap as a reprisal for his leaks. In his autobiography, he holds both views simultaneously
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/wikileaks/wikileaks-founder-baffled-by-sex-assault-claims/story-fn775xjq-1225976459286
http://gawker.com/5842613/the-unauthorized-autobiography-of-julian-assange

Assange owes most of his fame to Manning. And in a year when his organization took in nearly $2 million, Assange promised $50K for Manning's defense and used Manning's name for fundraising purposes. But he only ever delivered $15K
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20011106-281.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/07/AR2010120704817.html?sid=ST2010120701470

Assange got $1 million or more in an autobiography deal. But part-way through, he suddenly decided he he wanted to cancel the contract. He never returned the money, though
http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/lifeandtimes/wikileaks-founder-gives-little-away-in-this-unauthorized-autobiography/537510
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/julian-assanges-unauthorized-autobiography-released-in-london/2011/09/22/gIQAtq2XnK_story.html

New York Times editor Bill Keller worked with Assange for a while, before experiencing (like many others) a sudden falling out. Assange eventually retaliated with a careful and elaborate hoax of column attributed to Keller
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/30/magazine/30Wikileaks-t.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jul/29/bill-keller-fake-column-wikileaks

Assange supporters put up about $375K to keep him out of jail during his extradition hearings in the UK. How did he repay them? He jumped bail. The folk who put up the money are hoping the courts won't take it too seriously
http://m.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/06/assange-breached-bail/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jun/20/julian-assange-supporters-240000-bail
http://www.itv.com/news/anglia/update/2012-07-27/julian-assanges-bail-backers-plead-to-keep-their-money/

At one time, people argued about the importance of redacting the US embassy cables. Then it turned out that Wikileaks had actually released them all anyway
www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/10/wikileaks_amnesty/
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2010/11/wikileaks_0
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2392345,00.asp
http://m.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/08/wikileaks-leak/
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/british-newspaper-guardian-hits-back-in-wikileaks-row-on-password-leak-of-us-diplomatic-cables/articleshow/9824960.cms

In 2010 Assange began threatening a major release of bank info, which he promised would take down a bank or two. Then he began urging people to dump their Bank of America stock. This affected stock prices and BoA launched an internal investigation. Assange went on TV to laugh about how much fun it was to watch the banks squirm. But then, after a few months, he said he wasn't sure the BoA materials amounted to much. Nothing significant was ever released
http://www.cnbc.com/id/42762811/The_Great_Wikileaks_Bank_of_America_Hoax
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2010/12/22/no-wikileaks-has-not-confirmed-it-will-target-bank-of-america/
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/wikileaks-warns-on-bank-of-america-place-your-funds-somewhere-safer_12182010
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/01/bank-of-america-wikileaks_n_790253.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/03/business/03wikileaks-bank.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/31/assange_says_us_cant_take_wikileaks_down/
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/02/11/108626/wikileaks-assange-doubts-value.html

Michela Wrong wrote a book on corruption in Kenya (It's Our Turn To Eat) that appeared without her permission on the WikiLeaks site. When she wrote asking Assange to respect her copyright, she received only ridicule
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/apr/10/wikileaks-collateral-murder-video-iraq


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Who has Julian Assange screwed over the most thoroughly? (Original Post) struggle4progress Aug 2012 OP
Character assassination. He provides truth. That is all we require of him larkrake Aug 2012 #1
It's only character assassination if it's not true struggle4progress Aug 2012 #6
No one. And I hope others like him step up to leak everything they can get their hands on. nt Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #2
Pass n/t Change has come Aug 2012 #3
Nice Try... FAIL !!! WillyT Aug 2012 #4
Lol, major fail! sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #5
Everyone he's ever come into contact with? Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #7
Almost everyone he's come in contact with, except for Berg who stole the Bank docs and saved sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #8
WikiLeaks supporter David House lashes out against Julian Assange struggle4progress Aug 2012 #9
... Assange allowed Israel Shamir, a genuinely sinister Holocaust denier, struggle4progress Aug 2012 #11
... David Leigh and Luke Harding's history of WikiLeaks describes how journalists took Assange struggle4progress Aug 2012 #18
DU rec... SidDithers Aug 2012 #10
Manning is the Shyne to Assange's Puff Daddy RZM Aug 2012 #12
Depends moondust Aug 2012 #13
Nobody but himself. ananda Aug 2012 #14
Whistleblower protection bill dies again, on the 1-yard line struggle4progress Aug 2012 #16
Should we call you DietPepsi? girl gone mad Aug 2012 #15
I guess "The Choice Is Yours," but I wasn't "Born in the Carolinas," and struggle4progress Aug 2012 #17
So you don't like Assange either? Le Taz Hot Aug 2012 #19
In the Fall of 2011, I made an effort to ensure that every DU2 state forum struggle4progress Aug 2012 #21
Other. Himself. nt. NCTraveler Aug 2012 #20

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
8. Almost everyone he's come in contact with, except for Berg who stole the Bank docs and saved
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 12:31 AM
Aug 2012

the banks from being exposed, loves him. Leaders of almost every country in South America, Africa, the new governments in the ME, not to mention all the journalistic organizations who have given him awards for excellence in journalism

Who hates him? Sarah Palin, Sean Hannity, Fox and Friends, Rush Limbaugh, Joe the betrayer Lieberman, Savage Nation. Man do they ever hate him. Every dictator whose corruption Wikileaks exposed, whose murderous campaigns he helped put a stop to. Tunisia's dictatro, Ben Ami eg. Mubarak, Kenya's dictator, who disappeared hundreds of innocent people.

The man is a hero everywhere except in the minds of dictators.

Another spectacular fail in this disaster of as thread.

struggle4progress

(118,273 posts)
9. WikiLeaks supporter David House lashes out against Julian Assange
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 12:41 AM
Aug 2012

MIT computer scientist attacks founder in series of tweets that claim his actions 'put WikiLeaks supporters at risk'
Ed Pilkington in New York
Tuesday 31 July 2012 14.08 EDT
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jul/31/wikileaks-david-house-julian-assange

struggle4progress

(118,273 posts)
11. ... Assange allowed Israel Shamir, a genuinely sinister Holocaust denier,
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 12:46 AM
Aug 2012

to take unredacted US State Department cables to Belarus. These were pure gold for Lukashenko’s KGB because they contained the names of opposition figures who had spoken to American officials ...

Lukashenko’s goons could not have been more appreciative. Shamir arrived in Belarus shortly after street protests against the dictator’s theft of the rigged 2010 general election. The KGB beat, arrested and imprisoned hundreds of demonstrators. The Belarusian state media said that Shamir had allowed the KGB to ‘show the background of what happened, to name the organizers, instigators and rioters, including foreign ones, without compromise, as well as to disclose the financing scheme of the destructive organizations’.

Among the figures the state press said Wikileaks had ‘exposed’ as America’s collaborators were Andrei Sannikov, widely regarded as the true winner of the election; Oleg Bebenin, Sannikov’s press secretary, who died in suspicious circumstances, as Lukashenko’s opponents are wont to do; and Vladimir Neklyayev, a writer and former president of Belarus PEN, who is now under house arrest ...

The brass neck of Julian Assange
46 Comments Nick Cohen - 21 February 2012 17:09
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/nick-cohen/2012/02/the-brass-neck-of-julian-assange/

struggle4progress

(118,273 posts)
18. ... David Leigh and Luke Harding's history of WikiLeaks describes how journalists took Assange
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 05:37 AM
Aug 2012

to Moro's, a classy Spanish restaurant in central London. A reporter worried that Assange would risk killing Afghans who had co-operated with American forces if he put US secrets online without taking the basic precaution of removing their names. "Well, they're informants," Assange replied. "So, if they get killed, they've got it coming to them. They deserve it." A silence fell on the table as the reporters realised that the man the gullible hailed as the pioneer of a new age of transparency was willing to hand death lists to psychopaths. They persuaded Assange to remove names before publishing the State Department Afghanistan cables. But Assange's disillusioned associates suggest that the failure to expose "informants" niggled in his mind.

It is hard to believe now, but honest people once worked for WikiLeaks for all the right reasons. Like me, they saw the site as a haven; a protected space where writers could publish stories that authoritarian censors and libel lawyers would otherwise have suppressed.

James Ball joined and thought that in his own small way he was making the world a better place. He realised that WikiLeaks was not what it seemed when an associate of Assange – a stocky man with a greying moustache, who called himself "Adam" – asked if he could pull out everything the State Department documents "had on the Jews". Ball discovered that "Adam" was Israel Shamir, a dangerous crank who uses six different names as he agitates among the antisemitic groups of the far right and far left. As well as signing up to the conspiracy theories of fascism, Shamir was happy to collaborate with Belarus's decayed Brezhnevian dictatorship. Leftwing tyranny, rightwing tyranny, as long as it was anti-western and anti-Israel, Shamir did not care.

Nor did Assange. He made Shamir WikiLeaks's representative in Russia and eastern Europe. Shamir praised the Belarusian dictatorship. He compared the pro-democracy protesters beaten and imprisoned by the KGB to football hooligans. On 19 December 2010, the Belarus-Telegraf, a state newspaper, said that WikiLeaks had allowed the dictatorship to identify the "organisers, instigators and rioters, including foreign ones" who had protested against rigged elections ...

The treachery of Julian Assange
The WikiLeaks founder, far from being a champion of freedom, is an active danger to the real seekers of truth
Nick Cohen
The Observer, Saturday 17 September 2011
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/sep/18/julian-assange-wikileaks-nick-cohen

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
12. Manning is the Shyne to Assange's Puff Daddy
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 12:49 AM
Aug 2012

Manning did what he did of his own volition. But there is a bit of a left holding the bag quality to the whole thing.

moondust

(19,972 posts)
13. Depends
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 01:08 AM
Aug 2012

on how much usable intelligence was extracted from the leaks by Pakistan, Taliban, Iran, North Korea, China, etc. and what they did/do with it. Maybe dead people but chances are we'll never hear about it.

ananda

(28,856 posts)
14. Nobody but himself.
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 01:15 AM
Aug 2012

He's a hero to people who would like to see
more transparency in government as well as
accountability for what government does.

struggle4progress

(118,273 posts)
16. Whistleblower protection bill dies again, on the 1-yard line
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 01:34 AM
Aug 2012

By Robert Brodsky
December 23, 2010

... The 2010 Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act (S. 372), which advocates have worked on for more than a decade, actually passed the Senate on Dec. 10 by unanimous consent.

But ... GOP lawmakers ... expressed concern that the Senate-passed version could lead to national security disclosures similar to those published on the WikiLeaks website.

Although supporters argued the legislation did not permit the leaking of classified information, House Democrats agreed to remove the controversial provision. The measure then passed the House on Wednesday afternoon by unanimous consent ...

The House revisions, however, forced the bill back to the Senate for another vote. Before the lame-duck session expired, a single unidentified senator placed a hold on the bill ...

http://www.govexec.com/oversight/2010/12/whistleblower-protection-bill-dies-again-on-the-1-yard-line/32998/


That's what Assange and Manning accomplished legislatively for US whistleblowers in the fall of 2010

struggle4progress

(118,273 posts)
17. I guess "The Choice Is Yours," but I wasn't "Born in the Carolinas," and
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 01:40 AM
Aug 2012

"Live For Now" doesn't adequately describe my philosophy. Moreover, I rather doubt I can "Change the Game"

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
19. So you don't like Assange either?
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 08:36 AM
Aug 2012

I remember very few DUers by name but you I remember.

Last year I won 4 ribbons for my Fair entries and posted my triumph in the CA forum. You IMMEDIATELY started like 15 nonsense threads in that forum so my thread would quickly drop to the bottom. I mean, that forum NEVER moves that fast. I'm assuming you did that because you didn't like my politics. Yep, I remember you.

Oh, and btw, I agree with the posters above: FAIL.

struggle4progress

(118,273 posts)
21. In the Fall of 2011, I made an effort to ensure that every DU2 state forum
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 02:13 PM
Aug 2012
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