How is Joe Scum allowed to spew this Democrats love big government more than

[malaise]

all this crap he's talking about?
Let 'dead girl in the office' Joe Scum give up the cushy Congressional health care for his son and pay his own way.

Fuck you Joe Scum!! As long as there is society, there will be government.

[taterguy]

1. In the States we have this wacky thing called the First Amendment

And the reason he's on the air is that he makes money for his bosses.

[Angry Dragon]

2. He is still a murderer or knows who did kill her

in my opinion

[malaise]

3. Tweety is tearing him a new one

Go Tweety.
You want to throw grandma to the train and reward the capital gains guy.

[taterguy]

7. In the States we have this wacky thing called due process

The thing about the Bill of Rights is that it applies to everyone, not just the folks we like.

My caveat is that I honestly don't know any of the details of the case you're referring to since snobs like me don't pay much attention to cable TV.

[Angry Dragon]

9. post #1 -- just exercising mine

I do not watch cable news

[taterguy]

10. Your reply was Post #2

I'm so confused.

[Angry Dragon]

15. You had post #1 and I was using my free speech

Amendment #1

[Surya Gayatri]

4. The problem isn't that he spews this crap--just his

usual RW talking points repeated as if by a drunk parrot.

It's the court jesters sitting at his round table, bobbing their heads in obsequious unison--they're the ones that make me

But, Tweety is there right now tearing him a new one!

[malaise]

5. Is there a single program on cable where a former Democratic Party rep

is allowed to spew the party position for three hours?

[Ghost of Tom Joad]

6. and no one ever questions him about why they want goverment in our bedrooms.

He is so over the top, he never mentions how much these god awful wars are costing. What a douche.

[Surya Gayatri]

11. His ignorant bluster is intended to

cow everybody else into sycophantic silence.

I wonder if he ever watches videos of his own show--just how stupid, doctrinaire and aggressive he comes across.

[malaise]

14. Good question but Tweety just cornered him

re the absence of Bush and Cheney at their convention.
Why aren't you proud of them?
Joe Scum cuts them off - haahahahahahaha

Thanks Tweety!

[Surya Gayatri]

17. Like I said down thread, doesn't the guy

ever review videos of his own show--just to get an idea how he comes across?

Obviously not. If Mika wasn't there to pull things together, the whole operation would descend into chaos.

[malaise]

21. He is there to push ReTHUG talking points

and reinvent himself.

[rfranklin]

8. Bush, Bush and Reagan grew government and government spending at a phenomenal rate...

Republicans are always projecting to cover their tracks.

Krugman: Reagan Was More Keynesian Than Obama

...Just over three years into Reagan’s first term, government jobs grew by 3.1 percent; at the same time during Obama’s tenure, they’ve been cut by 2.7 percent. Hundreds of thousands of public sector jobs have been shed in recent years. Government jobs also grew under President George W. Bush, which helped keep unemployment down during most of his two terms.

“After there was a recession under Ronald Reagan, government employment went way up. It went up after the recessions under the first George Bush and the second George Bush,” Obama said last month on the campaign trail. “So each time there was a recession with a Republican president, compensated — we compensated by making sure that government didn’t see a drastic reduction in employment. The only time government employment has gone down during a recession has been under me.”

More broadly, federal spending growth under Obama has been remarkably low by historical standards. The pressure from the GOP and D.C. political elites, who have been hostile to Keynesian economics in recent years, has put the administration in a tough spot

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/paul-krugman-ronald-reagan-barack-obama-keynesian-economics.php

[Surya Gayatri]

12. Thanks for this...useful for shooting down RW talking points!

[kentuck]

18. It's not like he started with a balanced budget...

or a surplus even. That was what we had before we turned it over to Bush and the Republicans. If Obama had started with a balanced budget, the spending would be almost nothing, even less if he had not inherited a depression.

[dkf]

19. Reagan didn't grow public employees, the states did.

And his spending was the arms race.

....


Start with government employment (which is mainly at the state and local level, with about half the jobs in education). By this stage in the Reagan recovery, government employment had risen by 3.1 percent; this time around, it’s down by 2.7 percent.

Next, look at government purchases of goods and services (as distinct from transfers to individuals, like unemployment benefits). Adjusted for inflation, by this stage of the Reagan recovery, such purchases had risen by 11.6 percent; this time, they’re down by 2.6 percent.

And the gap persists even when you do include transfers, some of which have stayed high precisely because unemployment is still so high. Adjusted for inflation, Reagan-era spending rose 10.2 percent in the first 10 quarters of recovery, Obama-era spending only 2.6 percent.

Why did government spending rise so much under Reagan, with his small-government rhetoric, while shrinking under the president so many Republicans insist is a secret socialist? In Reagan’s case, it’s partly about the arms race, but mainly about state and local governments doing what they are supposed to do: educate a growing population of children, invest in infrastructure for a growing economy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/05/opinion/krugman-states-of-depression.html?_r=1

[rfranklin]

24. Just like Obama didn't fire all the state workers under his tenure...

but we're painting with a broad brush here.

[dkf]

25. He doesn't have control over that.

He can try to head off layoffs by giving money to the states but he can't make them hire or keep them from laying people off.

A lot of the funds that went to the states were used to reduce their municipal debt. That is why it wasn't as effective as projected.

During Reagan's time it is possible the municipalities had more room to expand with lower debt loads, so they did.

[malaise]

20. Good post

ReTHUGs just lie - facts do not matter

[Surya Gayatri]

13. The Spanish-speaking guy from Telemundo is sticking Joe's

nose in Repuke shit, too!

Good stuff--Joe is reduced to huffing and puffing.

[JaneyVee]

16. I hate talk like that, it undermines our democracy. We vote for representation.

We vote for a pro-active Govt to advance society. Private sector will not do it.

[highplainsdem]

22. He's succumbing to hysteria now that it's more and more obvious the Ryan pick was a mistake.

Incredible change from his mood yesterday.

[99Forever]

23. **sigh**