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russspeakeasy

(6,539 posts)
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 01:24 PM Aug 2012

Speculators, how do you justify driving up the price of food and fuel ?

Driving up futures prices, driving up fuel and food prices puts you in the position of stagnating this economy for your own selfish gains.

You are certainly entitled to make a profit, but not at the price of making life more difficult for the majority of us.

I would like to see a law passed forcing you to take delivery of your purchases.

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Speculators, how do you justify driving up the price of food and fuel ? (Original Post) russspeakeasy Aug 2012 OP
Yes, something has to be done about speculation. They are essentially gambling on whether GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #1
how do you justify driving up the price of food and fuel ? 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #2
check this out! RepublicansRZombies Aug 2012 #3
Thanks, RRZ ... surrealAmerican Aug 2012 #4
Welcome to DU. What a great article, that Bank should get a lot of publicity sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #17
"We don't have to justify anything to you people. It's perfectly legal." librechik Aug 2012 #5
congressional dems and repubs agree, this speculation is legal and allowable. too bad nt msongs Aug 2012 #6
"I would like to see a law passed forcing you to take delivery of your purchases." Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #7
Simple solutions do exist. Solutions, as in the problem is solved now we can move on to the next one Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #12
Cake is cheap. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #8
The NPR "allowed" (aka not confronted) excuse is they're bringing revenues to that sector uponit7771 Aug 2012 #9
They're not "entitled to make a profit" Hydra Aug 2012 #10
And the speculators who popped the mortgage bubble, they are bad people also? AngryAmish Aug 2012 #11
Yes. n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #13
Making life difficult? How about "starving millions"? Scuba Aug 2012 #14
Exactly right about taking delivery. Only actual producers or consumers ought to be in these markets reformist2 Aug 2012 #15
BECAUSE IT MAKES US MONEY! DUH? trof Aug 2012 #16

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
1. Yes, something has to be done about speculation. They are essentially gambling on whether
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 01:25 PM
Aug 2012

or not poor people get by.

 
3. check this out!
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 01:35 PM
Aug 2012

Look everyone, there is a bank that has morals!!!! (not in the US of course)


Germany’s second-biggest lender, Commerzbank, says it will no longer participate in market speculation on basic food prices. The bank says it has removed all agricultural products from its funds for moral reasons.

Commerzbank of Germany confirmed on Thursday it had withdrawn from market speculation on prices for basic food items. The country’s second-largest lender said it had removed all agriculture products from its ComStage ETF CB Commodity fund.

http://investmentwatchblog.com/shock-germanys-second-biggest-lender-commerzbank-says-it-will-no-longer-speculate-on-basic-food-prices-for-moral-reasons/

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
17. Welcome to DU. What a great article, that Bank should get a lot of publicity
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 07:03 PM
Aug 2012

for what it's doing. Thank you so much for posting this. In fact it should be an OP as a lot of people will miss it here.

A Bank with a conscience? Good for them

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
7. "I would like to see a law passed forcing you to take delivery of your purchases."
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 02:03 PM
Aug 2012

Hear! Hear!

And FWIW, my conservative hubby has said the same thing.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
12. Simple solutions do exist. Solutions, as in the problem is solved now we can move on to the next one
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 02:46 PM
Aug 2012

But regardless of how simple or cheap, or easily achieved a solution might be, we always face the same roadblock. The jackals that profit from the problem's existence.

uponit7771

(90,302 posts)
9. The NPR "allowed" (aka not confronted) excuse is they're bringing revenues to that sector
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 02:11 PM
Aug 2012

...and benefiting everyone to some degree.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
10. They're not "entitled to make a profit"
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 02:40 PM
Aug 2012

They are encouraged to make profit off a useful product or service they provide, preferable by their own hands.

They don't have the divine right to profit off of everything and anything, especially whether someone gets to eat or have clean water or medical care. Amazing that we've accepted that as "moral," in the words of Alan Greenspan.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
11. And the speculators who popped the mortgage bubble, they are bad people also?
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 02:43 PM
Aug 2012

Or the speculators who are driving Greece out of the Euro? They are bad too? (The only way for Greece to get out of their depression is to go back to the drachma).

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
15. Exactly right about taking delivery. Only actual producers or consumers ought to be in these markets
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 06:51 PM
Aug 2012

Or at the very least, speculator interest should be fixed at a constant level, if liquidity is a concern.

trof

(54,256 posts)
16. BECAUSE IT MAKES US MONEY! DUH?
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 07:00 PM
Aug 2012

Jeez, you people are SO dense.
We make huge piles of money speculating on basic necessities.
Hey, people HAVE to have them!
We do not give a shit what that does to the 99%.
We have a house in the Hamptons, a penthouse in Manhattan, and a condo in Boca.
We drive really nice cars.
And boats.
Or are driven in them


Our kids go to the best schools.
Our trophy wives shop at Tiffany.

Please understand this: We do not care that our financial dealings may cost you more at the grocery store. That doesn't affect us. Hell, we have food flown in for a party.

Get over it.

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