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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 02:50 PM Aug 2012

New Romney Ad: Obama Cut Medicare To Pay For ‘Obamacare’ (Romney-Ryan "protects Medicare benefits")

New Romney Ad: Obama Cut Medicare To Pay For ‘Obamacare’

The Romney campaign is accusing President Obama of cutting Medicare by $700 billion in order to pay for "Obamacare," and has made that charge the centerpiece of a new ad. The basic claim: Obama stole the money seniors put into Medicare in order to give health care to other Americans.

"The money you paid for your guaranteed health care," a narrator says in the ad, "is going to a massive new government program that's not for you."

The ad claims that the "Romney-Ryan plan protects Medicare benefits for today's seniors and strengthens the plan for the next generation."

Watch:



http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/new-romney-ad-accuses-obama-of-cutting-medicare

Where have I heard that lie before?

Obama/Biden vs Romney/Ryan on Medicare and the Right Wing lies on Affordable Care Act (ObamaCare)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021128915

Bernie Sanders: Ryan Budget Facts
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021127836

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New Romney Ad: Obama Cut Medicare To Pay For ‘Obamacare’ (Romney-Ryan "protects Medicare benefits") (Original Post) ProSense Aug 2012 OP
President Obama's Campaign team's response ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #1
It just didn't cost you anything BeyondGeography Aug 2012 #2
I hope that the Obama campaign is hitting back hard on this $700 billion claim WI_DEM Aug 2012 #3
And that's an official campaign ad. Romney will stoop to anything. nt pnwmom Aug 2012 #4
I like this graphic to refute that lie: RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #5
Can someone help to frame the 716 Billion into an easily understood idea.. ?? nenagh Aug 2012 #10
Here's a good article. RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #14
Hear hear! Amonester Aug 2012 #15
Thank you... my Daughter is employed at a large Health Care Insurance Co here in Ontario... nenagh Aug 2012 #16
There's also an Obama Team ad warning voters about Romney/Ryan "will say anything" Amonester Aug 2012 #18
Thank you so much... nenagh Aug 2012 #20
One correction to your summary.. Princess Turandot Aug 2012 #21
"I'm Mitt Rmoney and I'm a lying sack 'o crap." AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #6
Mitt is afraid to appear in Florida with Ryan Enrique Aug 2012 #7
Another day, another lie from Mitt and Twitt. sinkingfeeling Aug 2012 #8
They need to be called out Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2012 #9
Always 'report' all false attacks to barackobama.com! Amonester Aug 2012 #11
I don't believe the Obama team got beat to the punch on this!!!! DAMN! Hit them first and HARD uponit7771 Aug 2012 #12
Romney just lies. ProSense Aug 2012 #13
President Obama's plan keeps Medicare going for another 8 years mvd Aug 2012 #17
Herman Cain repeated this lie today RebelOne Aug 2012 #19
Has anyone heard ProSense Aug 2012 #22
I've been trying to find the answer to this Mad-in-Mo Aug 2012 #23
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
1. President Obama's Campaign team's response ...
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 02:53 PM
Aug 2012

"No I didn't ... But we KNOW ryan's plan steals $700 million to give it to people making over $3 million a year."

nenagh

(1,925 posts)
10. Can someone help to frame the 716 Billion into an easily understood idea.. ??
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 03:16 PM
Aug 2012

Does the 716 Billion savings.. comes from capping the profits of the insurance companies?

Removing a 'surcharge' that the insurance co's were allowed to charge?

I like the phrase "surcharge' the insurance co's were allowed to charge under Bush...



Romney is going to lie about this until November..

RedStateLiberal

(1,374 posts)
14. Here's a good article.
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 03:31 PM
Aug 2012
http://www.medicareadvocacy.org/2010/10/28/health-care-reform-does-not-cut-medicare-benefits/

It outlines exactly how the ACA makes savings from Medicare.

Conclusion
The Affordable Care Act slows the growth in future Medicare spending by reducing overpayments to private Medicare Advantage plans, by restructuring up-dates in payments to many providers, and by tying payments to improved quality of care. Health care reform does not reduce Medicare benefits.

nenagh

(1,925 posts)
16. Thank you... my Daughter is employed at a large Health Care Insurance Co here in Ontario...
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 04:10 PM
Aug 2012

She is very much into 'caps' on % profit allowed..

and it seemed to me having listened to that clip (but forgetting where I saw it that it was essentially a surcharge.

How's about it is all about stopping the 'Bush Era Surcharge of 15% on Profits..(To induce health care providers to enter the Medicare market..)

Thanks so much It is really annoying me to listen to the lie over and over again..



Amonester

(11,541 posts)
18. There's also an Obama Team ad warning voters about Romney/Ryan "will say anything"
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 04:19 PM
Aug 2012

Romney/Rove will say anything to win.

Can't find a link to it at the moment (got to go out for an hour or two).

nenagh

(1,925 posts)
20. Thank you so much...
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 04:40 PM
Aug 2012

I must say that the Obama team helping to create the instant response ads.. has been great..

I appreciate the help with the links... This is such an important election.


Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
21. One correction to your summary..
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 05:04 PM
Aug 2012

the 15% surcharge went to insurance companies/for-profit managed care companies, not to health care providers. The doctors, hospitals etc. are the providers: they did not get this money.



ProSense

(116,464 posts)
13. Romney just lies.
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 03:28 PM
Aug 2012

"I don't believe the Obama team got beat to the punch on this!!!! DAMN! Hit them first and HARD"

The Obama campaign has been hitting Mitt on ending Medicare: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021122456

Mitt lies, that's what he does.

mvd

(65,173 posts)
17. President Obama's plan keeps Medicare going for another 8 years
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 04:12 PM
Aug 2012

RMoney/Lian would keep it going for 0 years. Good contrast.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
19. Herman Cain repeated this lie today
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 04:24 PM
Aug 2012

on the radio. He is taking over Neal Boortz's show and I heard him on the way to the store. I listen to Neal Boortz because I like listening to his lies so that I can dispute them.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
22. Has anyone heard
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 05:11 PM
Aug 2012

anything from the media and factchecking organization on this "new low" by the Romney campaign?

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