Ivanka, Donald Jr. and Eric Trump were born BEFORE Ivana was a US Citizen

[Demovictory9]

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[Wellstone ruled]

1. Told you so,

ship this spawn back to Slovakia post hast.

[grantcart]

2. Ivana was from the Czech Republic lol I know you need a program to keep it straight

[dawg day]

28. It was Czechoslovakia when Ivana was there.

Part of the Soviet bloc, "unified" as one nation.

She was Czech. "Married" an Austrian man (apparently only to get an Austrian passport), and left the Soviet bloc (easily.... back when people were still getting shot trying to defect). She ended up in Canada (probably illegally) and would cross the border to work in the US (illegally), before meeting Trump.

She eventually got citizenship, along with her parents (chain migration!), but like so many immigrants, her first years here were as an undocumented worker.

Ditto Mrs. Trump #3, who apparently "immigrated" by overstaying her "genius" visa.

[Grassy Knoll]

3. That's Why Trump Is The Biggest Hypocrite

The Media Wont Say Shit About This, Sad!

ps: Eric Likes Marbles.

[Cha]

4. VIRAL THIS.. Tweet it to the trumpass monster.

[Beaverhausen]

5. Did Melanie become a citizen before or after Barron was born?

[MrsCoffee]

9. Barron was born March 2006. She became a citizen in 2006 but I can't find an exact date.

[Tanuki]

13. And if she lied about working illegally when she first arrived, her citizenship can be cancelled

retroactively. Show your papers, Melania, and have that press conference to answer questions and clear it all up, like your husband said (during the campaign) that you were going to do "in a couple of weeks"! Cancellation of her citizenship would probably cancel the "chain migration" (Trump's term) citizenship of her mom and Donald-lookalike dad, too.

[Hekate]

6. Works for me

[ecstatic]

7. Ya know?!

I was born under the same circumstances but if rolling it all back means Donald and all his kids from Ivana and Melania get deported FIRST, then I might consider going along with it. Tiffany appears to be safe at the moment, and I'm ok with that.

[JI7]

8. but they are all white so that's different

[democratisphere]

10. Cancelling their birthright won't be necessary.

The entire drumpf cult clan will be living in exile in Russian Siberia.

[Stonepounder]

11. Unfortunately, unless he wants to declare that both parents have to be citizens,

most countries that have 'restricted birthright citizenship' only require one parent to be a citizen or legal permanent resident for a child to be a citizen.

However, I would love to see the whole damn family have their citizenship cancelled.

[Shrike47]

12. Doesn't matter if one parent isn't a citizen. Takes both not be eligible.

[ashling]

14. Not that I want to rain on anybody's parade, but

They gain their status as citizens by having an unAmerican father, not solely through the 14 A


I know that most everybody knows that, but I am amazed sometimes by what some people on our side ... even here at DU .... don't understand


(sorry, I am a former college govt. instructor)

[ecstatic]

18. I assume it's mostly in jest

At least it is on my end. Remember, President Obama's mother was a US citizen, but that didn't stop the birther-in-chief from running wild with conspiracy theories & questioning Obama's legitimacy.

[ashling]

20. Me too, but

I did that once with another post (I don't remember exactly what it was about)
and I ended up (along some others) about the constitutionality of something that was clearly unconstitutional on its face.

I was teaching a class online one time and I usually tried to get some discussion going about what they think of "politics" etc. One of the students said that she was really informed ... because she watched Fox News ALL the time.

I am fairly sure that no one here watches Fox News ALL the time ... though I am not discounting that there may be a few masochists around ... you just never know what the other guy online has in his/her mind.

I had a student in a face to face class in Texas government one time. She had already failed my wife's class in U,S, govt. This was back when the whole open carry thing was about to hit the fan. I brought up the fact that some preacher in Houston was going around to grocery stores, et al., carrying an AK type gun. I naively asked "why would somebody do something like that?" - a rhetorical query not needing a reply. She immediately piped up with her answer for everything: "Because we can."

We immediately went into a discusssion of conflicts of rights, which, of course made no impact whatsoever on her fevered little mind. I ended up by saying that at any rate, that was a kindegarten answer: "You're not the boss of me." and reminded her that she was in college now. She dropped my class not long thereafter.

Oh, Oh ... one more:

Another online class. The student's paper was on the Scalia vs Tribe argument on judicial interpretation. Her paper started out ok, as it was undoubtedly copied from the book ... then her discussion of original intent went way off the rails. She posed an extremely salient question: What if the Hebrews had said that they didn't understand what the words to the ten commandments meant. Then she proceeded to quote the whole blessed thing (pun intended - by god take ownership of your puns ... there's probably a whole Russian Orphanage of Unintended and Unclaimed Puns that will never get into this country))

I explained that this was Texas Govt., not, Religion ... and anyway, like the whole Old Testament was pretty much about the Hebrews not understanding what god meant in the ten commandments!

[dawg day]

29. I had a student who said that God was the founder of the United States

[ashling]

30. I just remembered what the other question was

Someone was reposting the tired old meme that Biden could run as president with Obama running as VP

[Raine]

15. Trump's a citizen

so his kids are too...

[dsc]

16. is he

both of his parents were emmigres.

[ashling]

31. He was born here wasn't he

sarcasm

[dansolo]

17. Please stop this crap

As funny as it seems, this is stupid point to make, because birthright citizenship is not applicable if one of the parents is a U.S. citizen.

[Blue_true]

22. If Trump's granddad was not a citizen, then by Trump's new definition,

Trump is not a citizen because his dad was not one.

[struggle4progress]

25. But wasn't Donald actually born in Kenya?

[Vinca]

19. If Tiny was a citizen they're fine . . . IF.

I'd still like to see the paper trail of Trump immigrants. Did Grandpa ever bother to follow the law? If not, Fred Trump's birthright citizenship is kaput and his offspring would have to go back to the old country. Buh-bye, Tiny.

[Blue_true]

21. Ha. Let's see how the weasel spin that. nt

[onenote]

23. So what.

The proposals to limit birthright citizenship that have been put forward in the past (this isn't a new idea) would not extend birthright citizenship where neither parent was in the US legally, but would recognize citizenship if one parent was here legally. That's likely to be what Trump and/or Graham put forward (if they actually put forward anything).

[UTUSN]

24. K&R

[tymorial]

26. If it's good enough for america it's good enough for the first family

[pamdb]

27. trump kids

Problem is, Donald was a citizen so I don't think the whole birthright thing counts. But I could be wrong, I often am.

[guillaumeb]

32. Trump was/is a US citizen.

Making his children citizens.

[Demovictory9]

33. I know that. But there is still irony here... him being so anti immigrant.

[guillaumeb]

34. He is also a moron.

And we both know that.