I'm worried that DT45 will not accept the election.

[CK_John]

My opinion.

[ck4829]

1. A fair worry.

[dalton99a]

2. Fuck him and his whole damn family

[anarch]

3. yes, well...he probably doesn't accept his own mortality either, but it is what it is

Regardless, GOTV! We're in the home stretch....

[sunonmars]

4. Not a fucking thing he can do, its hundreds of different elections.

[dhill926]

5. this upcoming one?

what can he do?

[kysrsoze]

6. Wel, that's tough shot for him, isn't it?

[WhiteTara]

7. I think that's where Mueller steps in.

[ADX]

8. Of course he won't...

...He'll never accept ANY election that he doesn't "win".

[PearliePoo2]

9. There's leaks out of the White House that he's planning just that.

He's got legal teams planning to file challenges in individual states contesting results.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

28. Seriously? It's got to be against the law to interfere with election results.

Of course, we know the Repug motto: "If you can't win by the rules, change the rules."

[PearliePoo2]

34. Seriously. Carl Bernstein on 'Reliable Sources' discussing what his W.H. sources are telling him.

Carl discusses this plan starting at 3:11 in.

Link to tweet

Here's an article from Newsweek about it:

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-2018-election-illegitimate-democrats-take-control-congress-carl-1181683

snip:

"I talked to people...in touch with the White House on Friday who believe that if the congressional midterms are very close and the Democrats were to win by five or seven seats, that Trump was already talking about how to throw legal challenges into the courts, sow confusion, declare a victory, actually, and say that the election's been illegitimate," Bernstein told host Brian Stelter. "That is really under discussion in the White House."

[ScratchCat]

10. Here is the problem:

The elections are certified by the election supervisors of the 50 States. In absence of a legitimate issue of the votes being counted correctly, The election supervisors of each State will certify the election results regardless of what comes from Trump's twitter feed. Could there be one idiot in one red State who briefly tries to hold up the certification? Sure, anything is possible. But nobody went along with his "millions of illegal votes" nonsense in 2016, so don't expect many - if any - to go along with whatever xenophobic or racist claim he invents this time.

(dont want to say it but....)

A more plausible worry is some large-scale bot attack on November 6th that shuts down voting systems.....

[CK_John]

30. Remember that the Governor must send the winner to the Congress to be sworn in....

DT45 can call Congress and also cause problems also reminder what happened in Florida and hanging tabs.

[louis-t]

11. Tough shit. What's he gonna do?

Whine and cry and say Dems are the enemy of the people?

[violetpastille]

12. You're right. He won't.

He'll tweet. He'll bitch at his rallies. He'll crab to fox about it.

As he does.

[uponit7771]

13. No need to worry, he ... WILL NOT accept elections... he'll invite the Russians to help again but

... this time I pray we'll be watching and make these bastards pay.

[Pity Puddles]

16. I think the Russians are tired of Trump

so they'll not meddle it for the Republicans.

[uponit7771]

18. We'll see, from some Russian pols on Russian talking head shows Benedict Donald is doing what

... they want and that is

Materially helping Russian war interest in the ME and Ukraine (keyword materially)
Negatively affecting the US economy by
Getting the country into further needless debt
Enacting trade policies that are against US interest
Genning up internal conflicts as much as possible
Causing distrust in US election system (Putin is very anti liberal democracy)

[Pity Puddles]

14. He will be forced to resign or Amendment 25 will be in effect

At the same time, Pence gets the Amendment 25 treatment, and Speaker Pelosi becomes President Pelosi.

[beachbum bob]

15. Who really cares what trump accepts or not? Just wondering why that matters.

He is not king...not now, not ever

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

39. +1

[Nictuku]

17. This is why the 15,000 troops trouble me!

I know this sounds like tin foil hat, but it is the first thing I thought about when I heard he was going to send 15,000 troops across the country.

What if it is a ploy to get them ready to declare martial law if he doesn't agree with the election results?

Someone talk me down!

[bearsfootball516]

29. Well for one, the Pentagon already said that we aren't sending 15,000 troops anywhere.

[Nictuku]

44. Glad to hear it

I work (and commute) 13 hours a day, don't have the time like many here to watch the news all day.

[GulfCoast66]

38. No way to declare martial law in the US.

I mean, he can declare all he wants. But then what? No federal troops are going to try to take over civil power because no officer would order it.

You need to calm down. We live in a republic. States run elections and declare winners.

[Nictuku]

45. Historically, yes.

That is the way it is supposed to be, but this motherfucker has broken all norms.

I will try to calm down. I have the day off and weekend to come where I am not feeling like a zombie with my horrid work schedule and commute. I will try to get some Zen time in and chill out.

A time like this, one could really use some pharmaceuticals. Or some Vodka.

[GulfCoast66]

46. I prefer Bourbon. Which is why there is none in my house!

Wine suffices now.

But if we win the house a bourbon seal will be broken!

[MFM008]

19. Hopefully it will

Cause terminal stress.....

[Totally Tunsie]

20. Where the hell does Doturd even come up with his ideas? He's not smart enough

on his own to think of such things. The 14th Amendment challenge is a good example - He really thought of overturning the birthright citizenship? Does his mind just automatically challenge every status quo?

I can't imagine the resulting mess if he gets involved in all these state races. The courts will be tied up for years.

[barbtries]

23. my thinking is

Stephen Miller is an evil weasel. i believe he was the brains behind the policy of stealing children from their parents.

[Totally Tunsie]

27. Stephen Miller is a real danger. He has way too much power.

He's a stealth deviant, working quietly in the background and doing enormous amounts of harm.

[barbtries]

31. that's my perception.

they got rid of bannon but miller's just as bad. a jewish nazi no less.

[magicarpet]

35. Source: It seems this trDump's right to void the 14 Amendment...

Oops,.. this was to be a response to,
Totally Tunsie
Comment# 20

_______________


Re: Birthright Citizenship Voided by Executive Order was the brainchild of Lindsey Graham and Kris Kobach. They concocted the idea and handed it off to King Fascist Fuhrer of Orange now he is running with it to excite his base at the Nazi Rallies.

Here is CNNs Anderson Cooper talking about the matter of the Birthright void/Exec Order, on his program in discussions with Kobach.

Jump to meter - 2:03 for the approx start.

[barbtries]

21. i'm more worried

about his cult. but of course he will incite them.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

40. Pretty sure

the prison system in America can handle all those cretins.

[Vinca]

22. It doesn't matter whether he does or doesn't.

[struggle4progress]

24. Ultimately nobody will care what he thinks

[MyOwnPeace]

25. Je'll Throw his biggest baby tantrum yet!

He’ll come out swinging at both sides. He’ll attack the pigs like Paul Ryan for railing to defend and fight for their own party.
Of course he’ll blame all of his favorite bomb targets - aka emocrats - for lying, cheating, and working to destroy his kingdom!

[CincyDem]

26. Along these lines...IIRC election results are "certified" by the Secretary of State in each state.

States with Democrats in the SoS office represent 193 House Seats.
States with Republicans in the SoS office represent 242 House Seats.
Quorum for the House to be in session is 218.

So....what happens here if the Republican Secretaries of State just drag their feet in certifying the election?

There was an instance in the recent past where a delegation was not seated for some reason until mid-January (vs the 1/2/xx start date). That didn't effect the workings of the House.

What happens if 1/2/19 rolls around and we're still waiting for delegations comprised of 242 members are still waiting to be certified.

I have this feeling that, if given the chance, trump would rather have no House then a dem House.

[barbtries]

32. i think he'll take every opportunity

to remind everyone that when he was the candidate he won. he is pathologically incapable of acknowledging his own faults, mistakes, crimes, defects, etc.

we just have to win and then we can begin the long road to democracy.

[John Fante]

33. I really don't care what he does or does not accept, do you?

[RockRaven]

36. His acceptance has no role in the process whatsoever.

He may incite violence in response to the election results, but he is doing that already.

He may abuse the office of POTUS for personal gain or powers of the executive branch for political purposes in response to the election results, but he is doing that already too.

[MoonRiver]

37. What's he going to do about it?

[LanternWaste]

41. He won't accept them. And he'll have a couple of stiff drinks, cry, shift blame and move on.

Outside of bad television programming and half-witted political drama plots, there's absolutely nothing he can do except whine. And he will.

[Hortensis]

42. One worry at a time.

There are people in every state, not just DC, whose job it is to prepare the legal strategies and paperwork and be ready to leap to action. No doubt they're too busy to worry for that matter.

[malaise]

43. Who

Fucking cares?

[roamer65]

47. He has no say about it, especially at the state level.