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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,881 posts)
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 05:40 PM Nov 2018

CNN boss: If we break away from Trump coverage 'the audience goes away'

CNN President Jeff Zucker said his network's audience would dwindle if its news programming shifted away from covering President Trump.

In an interview published in the latest issue of Vanity Fair, Zucker said the reason why CNN spends much of the day reporting on Trump's day-to-day activities and his rhetoric stems from viewer demand.

“People say all the time, ‘Oh, I don’t want to talk about Trump, I’ve had too much Trump,’ ” Zucker told Vanity Fair. “And yet at the end of the day, all they want to do is talk about Trump."

"We’ve seen that anytime you break away from the Trump story and cover other events in this era, the audience goes away," he added. "So we know that, right now, Donald Trump dominates.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/414390-cnn-boss-if-we-break-from-trump-coverage-the-audience-goes-away

Hence why I don't watch CNN that much.

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CNN boss: If we break away from Trump coverage 'the audience goes away' (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2018 OP
Bingo. The problem with 24/7 news channels. The constant need to drum up viewership Roland99 Nov 2018 #1
Hmmm, maybe you're catering to the wrong audience... Wounded Bear Nov 2018 #2
Yeah Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2018 #17
I turn them off every time his ugly face or idiotic voice comes on. Squinch Nov 2018 #3
Yeah, cnn/jeff zucker.. you stay with Cha Nov 2018 #4
"Sorry, but I'm making too much money driving the country into this ditch" unblock Nov 2018 #5
+1 smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #22
Maybe if your non-Trump content was something other than vapid garbage and argument panels RockRaven Nov 2018 #6
He needs to head up an entertainment channel. That's not the voice of a newsman. unblock Nov 2018 #7
They are all entertainment channels now. Ron Green Nov 2018 #28
He's right and many here on DU are guilty as charged.... vi5 Nov 2018 #8
Rachel Maddow covers the Russia scandal far more than other Primetime hosts JonLP24 Nov 2018 #15
+1 I don't watch cable news either marylandblue Nov 2018 #23
It also frightens me... vi5 Nov 2018 #30
Democracy depends on compromise, so I don't mind if they try to marylandblue Nov 2018 #40
Yeah? So? Moostache Nov 2018 #9
CNN's version of Les Moonves: "It may not be good for America, but it's damn good for CNN." PSPS Nov 2018 #10
Because sensationalism Rizen Nov 2018 #11
Every time he's on I switch channels tavernier Nov 2018 #12
Then I'm in the minority Raven123 Nov 2018 #13
When will these pricks get it? 2 fucking years (which feel like 6) and these godamn hacks Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2018 #14
I don't think they will ever get it. Va Lefty Nov 2018 #18
Maybe they can exchange stories about the ratings in "the good ol' Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2018 #21
They need to learn how to talk about trump without talking about him. Afromania Nov 2018 #16
+1 ProudLib72 Nov 2018 #29
Fuck him malaise Nov 2018 #19
Do they ever break away from Trump enough to really back that up? Garrett78 Nov 2018 #20
Uh, no. I go away when the Mad King is on live. Lissen, Jeff Z, this is the guy who had a bomb sent. Hekate Nov 2018 #24
The guy behind the Leno/Conan fiasco. edbermac Nov 2018 #25
Actually, for me at least, I change the channel if I see or hear tRump MiniMe Nov 2018 #26
EXACTLY what i do bluestarone Nov 2018 #27
I agree that rump is too much of a topic but at least its mostly negative as it should be. I ... SWBTATTReg Nov 2018 #31
Maybe you should seek out a new audience EffieBlack Nov 2018 #32
I never watch them anyway. appleannie1943 Nov 2018 #33
This scares me. It makes me think that Trump could win again. Thank God for Oprah and Ferrilll zonkers Nov 2018 #34
That's exactly why I don't watch them. blueinredohio Nov 2018 #35
Unfortunately, Zucker's comments give credence to tRump's claim Totally Tunsie Nov 2018 #36
Fuck Jeff Zucker and the monster he created dalton99a Nov 2018 #37
Funny - Trump can't exist without CNN as his punching bag and CNN can't exist without Trump. Initech Nov 2018 #38
I haven't watched CNN since 2016 MineralMan Nov 2018 #39
As journalist go, Zucker is a ... GeorgeGist Nov 2018 #41

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,402 posts)
17. Yeah
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 06:10 PM
Nov 2018

maybe the rest of us thinking Americans would tune IN if there was something other than 24-7-365 coverage of Trump. Just a thought......

Cha

(297,123 posts)
4. Yeah, cnn/jeff zucker.. you stay with
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 05:42 PM
Nov 2018

that fucking dictator asshole and an altogether Other Audience Runs Away.

unblock

(52,183 posts)
5. "Sorry, but I'm making too much money driving the country into this ditch"
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 05:42 PM
Nov 2018

"I'll be glad to help the country just as soon as you figure out how to make it more profitable for me"

RockRaven

(14,958 posts)
6. Maybe if your non-Trump content was something other than vapid garbage and argument panels
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 05:43 PM
Nov 2018

people would tune in rather than tune out when you go away from Trump.

This is one of those "We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas" complaints.

Get f*cked, Zucker!

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
28. They are all entertainment channels now.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 07:00 PM
Nov 2018

They’re trapped in a financial model that demands quantity, not quality.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
8. He's right and many here on DU are guilty as charged....
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 05:43 PM
Nov 2018

Until people stop watching cable news, they'll continue to get the ratings they want and they'll continue to give the people what they want.

You all have the internet. There is literally nothing on cable news that you cannot find 8 trillion other places at the click of a mouse or finger. I have not watched a minute of cable news in easily 10 years or more and I don't at any point feel like I'm missing a single thing, or out of the loop or any of it.

There is zero reason for anyone to watch any cable news. O.K. if you want to give Rachel Maddow your time and give her the ratings then that is fine. Until then, anyone who watches cable news is responsible and culpable for their giving Trump exactly what he wants: tv time and attention.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
15. Rachel Maddow covers the Russia scandal far more than other Primetime hosts
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 06:04 PM
Nov 2018

On CNN and Fox News so the topics she covers are important as well give history and trivia lessons that always has a point.

Overall I agree though I can be guilty of watching CNN during the daytime.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
23. +1 I don't watch cable news either
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 06:34 PM
Nov 2018

I also think we talk about Trump too much on DU. Every idiocy that comes out of his mouth starts a dozen new threads. We should talk more about Democratic politicians and ideas.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
30. It also frightens me...
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 07:05 PM
Nov 2018

....too many of our leaders and Dem politicians in general fall for the ruse that bipartisanship is somehow a noble goal and an end in and of itself. I worry that with Trump gone that will be what they cling to, and go back to naively(and that's being generous because the alternative is too odious for me to consider) believing that they CAN or that they SHOULD negotiate with Republican terrorists.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
40. Democracy depends on compromise, so I don't mind if they try to
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 09:02 PM
Nov 2018

But I find that the Democrats are not very good at negotiating. I hope we learn to do better.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
9. Yeah? So?
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 05:47 PM
Nov 2018

If you stop handing out free crack, the crackheads go away too...what's you point? That it is OK to participate in the gaslighting of the republic because ratings rule?

Pathetic...journalism is not supposed to be about profits and ratings, it is supposed to be about truth and accountability of the powerful to the powerless. I would recommend a new career is better suited to 90% of the executives making decisions on coverage for the "news"...

Rizen

(708 posts)
11. Because sensationalism
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 05:53 PM
Nov 2018

in the media, Trump's gained a lot of free publicity. What's been proven from this whole nightmare is conservatives will support him; as long as he's racist and authoritarian there's no bad publicity.

Raven123

(4,813 posts)
13. Then I'm in the minority
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 05:54 PM
Nov 2018

I got so tired of Trump speaking about the media and the media debating over Trump that I have just tuned out.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
14. When will these pricks get it? 2 fucking years (which feel like 6) and these godamn hacks
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 05:59 PM
Nov 2018

are still propping up this goddamn monstrosity.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
21. Maybe they can exchange stories about the ratings in "the good ol'
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 06:25 PM
Nov 2018

days" when they're thrown in the gulags "for the enemies of the republic" or some shit. Yeah it's hyperbolic, I know. But still......

Afromania

(2,768 posts)
16. They need to learn how to talk about trump without talking about him.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 06:05 PM
Nov 2018

What they need to do is talk about the policies and how they are affecting people. We don't need 30 clips of him staying stupid stuff. We also don't need the talking heads pontificating about how he's so awful.

We all know Trump is a piece of Walking garbage and that anything, and I do mean ANYTHING, that comes out of that dude's mouth is a bold faced lie.

Just give us the facts. There is no ambiguity in the truth and no way to spin the gop view point now that the masks are off, or on to be more aproppo.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
29. +1
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 07:03 PM
Nov 2018

No more clips! No more annoying, whiny voice! No more platform!!!

I watched about fifteen minutes of Anderson Cooper the other night. He played about ten clips of the Rump yammering away. That was enough for me. There is really no reason for that. Why not read a transcript?

malaise

(268,885 posts)
19. Fuck him
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 06:19 PM
Nov 2018

They made that choice.
They are promoting a serial. Liar, a racist, a fascist and tax evader and 'fraudster' and criminal who settled in court for a fraudulent university to make money.

Where is his evidence?
This is profit over country - fuck you.

Hekate

(90,633 posts)
24. Uh, no. I go away when the Mad King is on live. Lissen, Jeff Z, this is the guy who had a bomb sent.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 06:39 PM
Nov 2018

....your way. Being mealy-mouthed has not helped you so far -- why think it will help now?

edbermac

(15,937 posts)
25. The guy behind the Leno/Conan fiasco.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 06:40 PM
Nov 2018

In 2010, in response to a public controversy over the network's reported rescheduling of late-night hosts Jay Leno and Conan O'Brien, Los Angeles Times reporters Meg James and Matea Gold wrote that Zucker's tenure had led to "a spectacular fall by the country's premier television network" and dubbed the intra-network feud and subsequent public relations fallout "one of the biggest debacles in television history".[22] Under Zucker NBC fell from being the number one rated network to the lowest rated of the four broadcast networks and was occasionally being beaten in the ratings by programming on some of the more popular cable channels.

Days later, New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd wrote that in Hollywood "there has been a single topic of discussion: How does Jeff Zucker keep rising and rising while the fortunes of NBC keep falling and falling? ...many in the Hollywood community have always regarded him as ...a network Napoleon who never bothered to learn about developing shows and managing talent." She explained that Zucker "is a master at managing up with bosses and calculating cost-per-hour benefits, but even though he made money on cable shows, he could not program the network to save his life."[23]

Dowd also reported that an unnamed "honcho at another network" stated that "Zucker is a case study in the most destructive media executive ever to exist... You’d have to tell me who else has taken a once-great network and literally destroyed it."[23]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Tonight_Show_conflict

SWBTATTReg

(22,100 posts)
31. I agree that rump is too much of a topic but at least its mostly negative as it should be. I ...
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 07:16 PM
Nov 2018

recall when he started that the other repug candidates were complaining about all of the coverage he got for free. Now he's complaining because the coverage is all negative (except faux news which is worthless and isn't news anyway, it's gossip). You reap what you sow.

When we get our democratic candidates in office, there will be lots of things to do that I think we can talk about that do need discussions and the like, such as reverting the lopsided trends towards awarding the 1%ers vs. average everyday Americans. Seems like a gross distortion here. Other areas need to be enhanced and acted upon, and I guarantee you that rump is NOT going to provide any leadership. If anything, he's going to go constantly on road trips for the so called 2020 campaign (which I don't think he's going to do, he is stealing the money in broad daylight).

We have to provide the leadership (democratic candidates) since you've seen the republican controlled Congress show just how they act in a leadership fashion, by awarding their donors and not the American people w/ tax cuts first.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
36. Unfortunately, Zucker's comments give credence to tRump's claim
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 07:29 PM
Nov 2018

that cable news and the networks would fail without him. Damn...I hate to see him proven right, in this or anything.

While I ha-a-a-a-te the orange bastard, I am strangely fascinated by watching him on TV. It's like watching a car wreck or a fire consuming a building - as horrible as it is, you just can't look away. Of course, much of that is the possibility - or should I say, probability - of hearing him say something so stupid, so absurd that you have to see it as it's happening.

Maybe it's just that I get out all my toxins by screaming at tRumphole as he's speaking. Yeah, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Initech

(100,060 posts)
38. Funny - Trump can't exist without CNN as his punching bag and CNN can't exist without Trump.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 07:39 PM
Nov 2018

I believe that irony has come full circle.

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