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diva77

(7,629 posts)
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 08:11 PM Nov 2018

New Yorker article: How Voting-Machine Errors Reflect a Wider Crisis for American Democracy

By Sue Halpern October 31, 2018
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-voting-machine-errors-reflect-a-wider-crisis-for-american-democracy

When reports began circulating last week that voting machines in Texas were flipping ballots cast for Beto O’Rourke over to Ted Cruz, and machines in Georgia were changing votes for the Democratic gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams to those for her Republican opponent, Brian Kemp, it would not have been unreasonable to suppose that those machines had been hacked. After all, their vulnerabilities have been known for nearly two decades. In September, J. Alex Halderman, a computer-science professor at the University of Michigan, demonstrated to members of Congress precisely how easy it is to surreptitiously manipulate the AccuVote TS, a variant of the direct-recording electronic (D.R.E.) voting machines used in Georgia. In addition, Halderman noted, it is impossible to verify that the votes cast were not the votes intended, since the AccuVote does not provide a physical record of the transaction.

Election-security experts, meanwhile, used the opportunity to remind the public—yet again—how susceptible touch-screen voting machines are to error, especially because they often rely on outdated and unsupported software. As the Brennan Center for Justice cautioned back in 2008, typically machines flip votes because they aren’t properly calibrated. This can happen, and does happen, to candidates from any party. But none of that was what we were hearing from election officials themselves. “The machines do not have glitches,” Stan Stanart, the county clerk in Harris County, Texas, which uses a system called the Hart InterCivic eSlate, told a local television station. He blamed mistakes on the voters themselves.

The irony here is that these particular vote-flipping machines were deployed across the country in response to the monumental failure of punch-card voting machines during the 2000 Presidential election, when so-called hanging chads very likely resulted in the wrong man winning. The crisis that ensued inspired a bipartisan Congress, in 2002, to pass the Help America Vote Act (HAVA). Among other things, HAVA created the Election Assistance Commission, which it then deputized to test and certify voting machines. The act also allocated millions of dollars for election-infrastructure upgrades, much of which was used to replace traditional voting machines with computerized machines like eSlate and the AccuVoteTS. Georgia, in fact, was the first state to adopt D.R.E. touch screens statewide.
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New Yorker article: How Voting-Machine Errors Reflect a Wider Crisis for American Democracy (Original Post) diva77 Nov 2018 OP
If Voting machines received benld74 Nov 2018 #1
Right? Or ATMs. n/t targetpractice Nov 2018 #2
I get what you're saying but doesn't the house always win in successful casinos? diva77 Nov 2018 #6
Each machine is tested by the benld74 Nov 2018 #7
Problem is, there is no "balance sheet" to achieve with whom you vote for... diva77 Nov 2018 #8
They are not errors but part of the programing of the machines. Botany Nov 2018 #3
And the polls have tended to now need "adjustment" lostnfound Nov 2018 #4
I agree 100%. The perfect crime too because it's so hard to get hold of the tangible evidence - diva77 Nov 2018 #5
"Errors"? gratuitous Nov 2018 #9

benld74

(9,901 posts)
1. If Voting machines received
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 08:20 PM
Nov 2018

The same scrutinity

As

Vegas Slot machines


This country would be

Much better off

If Vegas Slot machines received the same
Scrutiny as
Voting machines

Vegas would be gone
In less than 1 years time

diva77

(7,629 posts)
6. I get what you're saying but doesn't the house always win in successful casinos?
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 09:59 PM
Nov 2018

Not a good fit for voting!!!

Real elections need to be transparent - done using paper ballots, hand-counted at the precinct level with public oversight.

benld74

(9,901 posts)
7. Each machine is tested by the
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 11:14 PM
Nov 2018

Vegas Casino Commission? Not sure if name

But they’re tested, to ensure nothing crooked about them. Can’t be hacked for instance

diva77

(7,629 posts)
8. Problem is, there is no "balance sheet" to achieve with whom you vote for...
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 12:40 AM
Nov 2018

If a machine has malicious code to change votes, the only total the machine can be tested for is that the number of voters in equals the number of voters out. And sometimes elections officials fail to acknowledge total voter discrepancies as well.

The "voting" machines do not meet the burden of proof that votes will be counted as cast.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
3. They are not errors but part of the programing of the machines.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 08:36 PM
Nov 2018

Ever since HAVA we have seen a red state shift in voting that does not match
the changes in demographics or the will of the American people.

lostnfound

(16,162 posts)
4. And the polls have tended to now need "adjustment"
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 09:53 PM
Nov 2018

And patterns exist which vary by type of machine / software version, from what I could see

diva77

(7,629 posts)
5. I agree 100%. The perfect crime too because it's so hard to get hold of the tangible evidence -
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 09:56 PM
Nov 2018

I wish journalists would reconsider the inaccurate and common use of the phrase "voting-machine errors" and replace it with "possible tampering with election equipment"

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. "Errors"?
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 12:52 AM
Nov 2018

Those errors all seem to be happening in one direction. If Republican votes were being changed to Democratic, those machines would be out of service yesterday.

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