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Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 03:36 PM Nov 2018

Republicans Show Strength in Early Voting

This Opening Post should inspire more Democrats to vote!
In key Senate races, the numbers so far suggest a major GOP swing since 2016.
By Karl Rove
Oct. 31, 2018 6:40 p.m. ET

Get-out-the-vote efforts now assume special importance. Careful planning, precise targeting, months of preparation, and vast amounts of volunteer hours now either pay off in early and absentee voting as well as Election Day turnout, or they don’t and campaigns sink. But initial reports are good for Republicans. Last week NBC News found “GOP-affiliated voters have surpassed Democratic-affiliated ones in early voting in Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Montana, Tennessee and Texas”—all of which have key races for Senate, governor or both.

Nevada is the only state with a crucial Senate race in which NBC reported a Democratic advantage in early voting.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/republicans-show-strength-in-early-voting-1541025658

The most surprising aspect of this online "opinion" article is that Karl Rove is still at large, instead of in prison. It also displays a early voting facility in New Mexico, without mentioning anything about the state.

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Republicans Show Strength in Early Voting (Original Post) Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 OP
Written by Karl Rove. Lol. bearsfootball516 Nov 2018 #1
WHO BELIEVES A GOP ??? trueblue2007 Nov 2018 #16
Ah, Rove forgot to mention his big worry, bless his heart. Hortensis Nov 2018 #50
Yes I remember Rove in 2012 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2018 #60
Note the by-line: Karl Rove. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #2
KARL FUCKING ROVE? PCIntern Nov 2018 #4
His performance on election night 2012 was hilarious bronxiteforever Nov 2018 #28
I should have read down before I replied Blecht Nov 2018 #39
Bull ! pwb Nov 2018 #3
Piece of garbage dalton99a Nov 2018 #5
Don't forget Ham Rove's prognostication FAIL meltdown BumRushDaShow Nov 2018 #6
Thanks wryter2000 Nov 2018 #20
What's even more hilarious in retrospect is that they had Megyn Kelly BumRushDaShow Nov 2018 #31
Pure horse hockey vercetti2021 Nov 2018 #7
Why is Karl Rove BS posted here?? SaveOurDemocracy Nov 2018 #8
Another bad assumption that "GOP-affiliated voters" are voting GOP. PSPS Nov 2018 #9
Exactly tazkcmo Nov 2018 #15
This isn't the whole truth Demwolv Nov 2018 #10
Karl Rove drops his load on the Wall Street Urinal. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #11
I take the part that they are getting their asses kicked in NV seriously lol grantcart Nov 2018 #13
lol Karl should go back to college and get a degree grantcart Nov 2018 #12
actually, information like you posted is what I was seeking when I found the Rove comedy Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #37
Greasing the skids for the big steal? ZZenith Nov 2018 #14
Polls watchers, lawyers, hotlines, many have paper receipts...don't fret. Just go VOTE. LBM20 Nov 2018 #17
"we had the White House and both houses of Congress and did nothing" BumRushDaShow Nov 2018 #18
HAVA: ZZenith Nov 2018 #25
HAVA BumRushDaShow Nov 2018 #36
So you are saying that Congress can set MINIMUM STANDARDS for the states ZZenith Nov 2018 #40
Congress is *limited* regarding what it can do BumRushDaShow Nov 2018 #41
So we need to elect Democratic officials to state governments ZZenith Nov 2018 #54
Exactly. That is what "sitting it out" or waiting for "purity" got us. BumRushDaShow Nov 2018 #56
That's how it went. The chads were pretext for the Hurt American Voters Act (HAVA) lagomorph777 Nov 2018 #23
That is why these state elections matter MaryMagdaline Nov 2018 #52
by Karl Rove treestar Nov 2018 #19
Oh man ya got me! I was all upset until I saw the byline! lagomorph777 Nov 2018 #21
Sorry, but why the fuck maxrandb Nov 2018 #22
As stated in the OP, the intention is to get Democrats to vote, but... Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #30
I was wondering that myself...... W_HAMILTON Nov 2018 #35
Don't take anything for granted. Vote. Take +2 or more to vote Arazi Nov 2018 #24
Bwahahahahaaaa....KKKarl spanone Nov 2018 #26
Lol, rove is a has been and no data support his opinion... beachbum bob Nov 2018 #27
Karl Rove...planting the seed of victory for when they pull an Al Gore??? Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #29
Remember when Karl Rove said Democrats weren't going to take back congress in 06? Drunken Irishman Nov 2018 #32
Good find! BumRushDaShow Nov 2018 #42
It was an accidental discovery. I was seeking early election results Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #45
Right there is one reason why he was called "Turd Blossom" and "Bush's Brain" BumRushDaShow Nov 2018 #48
Hasn't youth voting exploded in Texas? NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #33
Karl is acting on the assumption all Republicans are voting straight Republican. Vinca Nov 2018 #34
WTF? Karl Fucking Rove??? WTF???? Blecht Nov 2018 #38
Posting Turd Blossom's excretions as fact???? n/t retread Nov 2018 #43
Are you posting this to discourage us? cagefreesoylentgreen Nov 2018 #44
The Opening Post clearly explains why I posted Rove "opinion" Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #46
Turd Blossom dressed as Mr Hanky for a Halloween Op-Ed. peekaloo Nov 2018 #47
Pence is predicting they hold the house.... Joe941 Nov 2018 #49
Oh, geez, you scared me! PatrickforO Nov 2018 #51
This is a democratic website and I didn't really appreciate seeing anything on/by/whatever SWBTATTReg Nov 2018 #53
Karl Rove opinion piece. honest.abe Nov 2018 #55
Rove - one of the biggest election fraud criminals of all time diva77 Nov 2018 #57
Karl Rove? Give me a break! NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #58
When Turdblossom speaks, nobody listens. VOX Nov 2018 #59
I think it's worth boycotting advertisers on WSJ based on them giving the megaphone to Rove on this. diva77 Nov 2018 #61

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
50. Ah, Rove forgot to mention his big worry, bless his heart.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 12:07 PM
Nov 2018

Who can blame him for refusing to dwell on the reality that most of their larger than normal early turnout is their usual reliable voters who are just...dutifully voting early instead of on election day.

And, of course, they don't know how many conservatives will stay loyal in the booth, allllmost all, but...

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,757 posts)
60. Yes I remember Rove in 2012
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 05:15 PM
Nov 2018

He thought for certain Mitt Romney was going to win and seemed rather pissed off when he didn't.

PCIntern

(25,490 posts)
4. KARL FUCKING ROVE?
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 03:40 PM
Nov 2018

Oh in that case let me take the gas pipe.

You mean President Romney’s Karl Fucking Rove??

BumRushDaShow

(128,506 posts)
31. What's even more hilarious in retrospect is that they had Megyn Kelly
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 04:59 PM
Nov 2018

yes THAT (now-unemployed) Megyn Kelly, march down to the "Decision Desk" to find out what was going on (starting at 5:15).

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
15. Exactly
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 03:57 PM
Nov 2018

I've seen too many GOPee-ers say they will be voting Democratic for the first time in their life. Add that to the fact this is a Rove written article and you get good news for the Democratic Party.

 

Demwolv

(88 posts)
10. This isn't the whole truth
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 03:48 PM
Nov 2018

Democrats have already surpassed Republicans in in-person voting in many of those states. Absentee ballots (which usually always go red because many of them are older voters) are what push republicans over...

ALSO. He's not counting on voters who aren't registered one way or another which most likely will not split 50/50 in this count. In my state, we don't have to register one way or another to vote in a primary. I have always voted Dem but I'm an independent register. They're using this to keep Dems away. Don't fall for the bait!!

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
12. lol Karl should go back to college and get a degree
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 03:49 PM
Nov 2018


In AZ the early voting by party is exactly the same as it has always been,

42 Republican

34 Dem

23 Independents


But here is the problem Carl, Martha McSally is only getting 88% of the Republicans and Independents are breaking 20% to the advantage of Dems.



Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
37. actually, information like you posted is what I was seeking when I found the Rove comedy
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 07:45 PM
Nov 2018

Do you have a link to a reliable website with similar statistics on other states? Someone else posted it was in a Rupert Murdock media toilet, which makes it even funnier; but the main point is no one should take these important, mid-term elections for granted. LET'S GET OUT AND VOTE!

ZZenith

(4,115 posts)
14. Greasing the skids for the big steal?
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 03:53 PM
Nov 2018

When is this country going to get serious about election integrity?

2009 we had the White House and both houses of Congress and did nothing to eliminate these infernal electronic “voting machines,” manufactured by hard-core Republican zealots.

The whole “hanging chad” charade was such a clever way to influence states to adopt the most corruptable voting method imaginable. EVM’s will NEVER be more verifiable than paper ballots and yet we all fall like lemmings off that cliff.

If they steal it, how do we prove it?

BumRushDaShow

(128,506 posts)
18. "we had the White House and both houses of Congress and did nothing"
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 04:12 PM
Nov 2018

It's because of a little thing called the U.S. Constitution.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/tenth_amendment


I.e., except for the elections for the U.S. Congress, as set forth in Article I of the Constitution, where the requirements, numbers, and agreement on the date is set nationwide, similarly the election of the President being set forth in Article II, everything else that has to do with voting not already covered under the 14th, 19th, 24th, and 26th Amendments, are controlled by the states.

(DU needs more Civics 101)

ZZenith

(4,115 posts)
25. HAVA:
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 04:38 PM
Nov 2018

“The Help America Vote Act (HAVA) of 2002 was passed by the United States Congress to make sweeping reforms to the nation's voting process. HAVA addresses improvements to voting systems and voter access that were identified following the 2000 election.”

I am done with the naive and I am done with the mendacious.

BumRushDaShow

(128,506 posts)
36. HAVA
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 05:53 PM
Nov 2018

has nothing to do with what you are talking about. Did you actually fucking read it? HAVA is merely "guidance" and "best practices" and "minimum standards". It is up to the states to determine how they are going to implement their own voting processes.

Here it is - https://www.eac.gov/assets/1/6/HAVA41.PDF

Anything beyond that would be challenged as a 10th Amendment issue. You might notice that Washington State has no polling places or machines at all - it's all "mail-in" voting.

Trust me - I want it as much as you to have some standardized system nationwide is a tall order that will be argued, infringes on the 10th Amendment.

ZZenith

(4,115 posts)
40. So you are saying that Congress can set MINIMUM STANDARDS for the states
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 01:21 AM
Nov 2018

regarding federal elections?

Is that what you are telling me?

BumRushDaShow

(128,506 posts)
41. Congress is *limited* regarding what it can do
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 05:16 AM
Nov 2018

when it comes to functions that are related to "elections" and I posted what is in the Constitution about "federal" elections.

However your assertion was this -

2009 we had the White House and both houses of Congress and did nothing to eliminate these infernal electronic “voting machines,” manufactured by hard-core Republican zealots.


And I will say it again - there is (unfortunately) a limitation as to how far Congress can "dictate" to states how to handle things that would fall under the 10th Amendment. Meaning they CANNOT tell a state which manufacturer and which machine they are to use nationwide. Over the past decade, citizenry have attempted to take their states to court for the most egregious touchscreen systems that apparently met "minimum requirements" and they lost.

Instead of whining about what Congress should do, people need to corral voters in their states and take control of their own state governments so that Democrats can put in place the more reliable systems.

This bullshit about Democrats "doing nothing" is truly tiresome.

ZZenith

(4,115 posts)
54. So we need to elect Democratic officials to state governments
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 03:26 PM
Nov 2018

on voting systems that are corrupted.

Gotcha.

BumRushDaShow

(128,506 posts)
56. Exactly. That is what "sitting it out" or waiting for "purity" got us.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 04:25 PM
Nov 2018

But it also reflects the fact that a number of state GOP seats went uncontested for far too long, so all that did was solidify their control, and at the worst possible time - the decennial census.

Fortunately what we have going for us is how extreme the GOP has gotten since 2010, which is finally causing the GOP juggernaut to crumble in some states, resulting in a rise of "independents" willing to vote for Democrats. And now with more Democrats actually CONTESTING seats (thanks to groups like "Indivisible" ), the tide is changing and more pressure will soon be brought to bear at the state level, to begin to make the necessary changes.

If you have enough people coming out to vote - that can often be more than enough to offset the "corrupted machines" because too many obvious "errors" will raise a red flag. Close elections with corrupted machines, not so much.

You have people who watch things happen, people who make things happen, and then those people who wake up and say "What the hell just happened?". Now is the time to get things in place for 2020.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
23. That's how it went. The chads were pretext for the Hurt American Voters Act (HAVA)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 04:16 PM
Nov 2018

Electronic "voting" is simply a more efficient way to steal elections.

MaryMagdaline

(6,851 posts)
52. That is why these state elections matter
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 12:26 PM
Nov 2018


If we get democrats in FL, MI, WI, GA, we can protect the vote.

maxrandb

(15,298 posts)
22. Sorry, but why the fuck
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 04:15 PM
Nov 2018

is a Turd Blossom opinion piece from a Murdoch owned piece of shit Retrumplican propaganda pop-up book being posted on DU???

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
30. As stated in the OP, the intention is to get Democrats to vote, but...
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 04:58 PM
Nov 2018

As expected, the OP got a few laughs. Now that you informed me Murdoch owns the media toilet for Rove opinions, I am smiling too!
too funny!

W_HAMILTON

(7,835 posts)
35. I was wondering that myself......
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 05:34 PM
Nov 2018

I think I've learned that you can't really determine how someone will react to a piece of news -- e.g., does a story like this increase or actually decrease Democratic turnout? -- so, I've fallen back on the old tried and true "just do the right thing."

And posting a story written by Karl Rove on this website is certainly NOT doing the right thing......

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
24. Don't take anything for granted. Vote. Take +2 or more to vote
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 04:22 PM
Nov 2018

Rove is an insider. I don't take anything for granted anymore

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
29. Karl Rove...planting the seed of victory for when they pull an Al Gore???
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 04:51 PM
Nov 2018

Karl really ramped up this ugliness w..."Politics is War"...rhetoric. GD how many lives do these people have??
GO AWAY KARL.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
34. Karl is acting on the assumption all Republicans are voting straight Republican.
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 05:29 PM
Nov 2018

I've seen a number of GOP voters interviewed who are either splitting their vote in order to have a check on Trump or voting totally Democratic.

PatrickforO

(14,559 posts)
51. Oh, geez, you scared me!
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 12:13 PM
Nov 2018

But it's by Karl Rove. The same guy who freaked out when Obama won his second term in 2012.

And, yes, I do agree Rove should be in prison.

SWBTATTReg

(22,077 posts)
53. This is a democratic website and I didn't really appreciate seeing anything on/by/whatever
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 12:41 PM
Nov 2018

karl rove and I never do. I hope never to see his name or whatever on DU ever again.

diva77

(7,629 posts)
57. Rove - one of the biggest election fraud criminals of all time
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 04:52 PM
Nov 2018

Mark Crispin Miller discusses how Rove's IT guru died in a plane crash prior to giving deposition where he would talk about how the votes from Ohio were shunted through a republican server on election night 2004.

Rove's IT Guru Warned of Sabotage Before Fatal Plane Crash; Was Set to Testify
Mike Connell, the chief IT consultant to Karl Rove, reportedly asked for protective custody from the government before he died.

By Amy Goodman / Democracy Now!
December 22, 2008,
https://www.alternet.org/story/114674/rove%27s_it_guru_warned_of_sabotage_before_fatal_plane_crash;_was_set_to_testify

SNIP
MCM:Well, the lawyers in the case refer to him as a high-IQ Forrest Gump, by which they mean that he seems to have been present at the scene of every dubious election of the last eight years. We're talking about Florida in 2000. We're talking about Ohio in 2004. We're talking about Alabama in 2002. He seems to have been involved in the theft of Don Siegelman's re-election for governor. There's some evidence that links him with the Saxby Chambliss-Max Cleland Senate race in Georgia in 2002. To be Karl Rove's IT guru seems to have meant basically setting it up so that votes could be electronically shaved to the disadvantage of the Democrats and the advantage of Republicans.

AG: What do you mean, "electronically shaved"? I mean, you've got all these precincts all over Ohio. They're counting up their votes. What does he have to do with this?

MCM: Well, specifically, there's a computer architecture setup called "Man in the Middle," which involves shunting the election returns from, you know, the state in question -- in this case, Ohio -- shunting them to a separate computer elsewhere. All of the election returns in Ohio in 2004 went from the Secretary of State's website -- this is Ken Blackwell -- to a separate computer in a basement in Chattanooga, Tennessee, which was under the control of another private company called SMARTech.

So we have now two private companies: GovTech Solutions, which is Connell's company, SMARTech, which is run by a guy named [Jeff] Averbeck. And the company -- the third private company that managed the voting tabulators in Ohio was called Triad. All three of these companies worked closely together on election night in Ohio in 2004. It turns out that the state's own IT person was sent home at 9:00 p.m. They said, "Go ahead. Go home. We'll take care of this." So that this trio of highly partisan and, let me add, Christianist companies basically took over the whole --

SNIP

VOX

(22,976 posts)
59. When Turdblossom speaks, nobody listens.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 05:12 PM
Nov 2018

Except his right-wing toadies. These RW white fossils bum a career by spraying shit-mist on everything in sight.

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