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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 04:13 PM Nov 2018

Can the Republic Strike Back? By Andrew Sullivan

Whatever else it will be, Tuesday will be a relief. We will finally find out where we are in the surreal dystopia of the last two years. We will see, in a tangible way, what America now is.

These years have been overwhelmed and saturated by a single figure with no political experience, who won almost 3 million fewer votes than his opponent, has had consistently lower approval numbers than any of his recent predecessors, and speaks and acts in ways no previous president ever has. He has cast a staggering spell over a hefty segment of the population, and he has earned the intense loathing of the rest. And for these very reasons, it has been tortuously hard to see what is in front of our noses.

Is this the new normal? Or has this been a detour into the freak zone, with a president accidentally elected, a major party temporarily hypnotized, but with a population still aware of something called reality? We’ve tried and tried these past two years to figure that out, and there are many layers of meaning here, but we haven’t had a clear test of anything. Polls are not elections. Only elections are elections. We are entering the human phase of the trials.

There are few historical guides. It is hard to think of a precedent for a president who endorses violence against political foes, sees the Justice Department as his own personal prosecutor, calls the press “the enemy of the people,” tears children from parents, brags of multiple sexual assaults, threatens to lock up his opponents, enthuses about war crimes, “falls in love” with the foulest dictator on the planet, refuses to divest of personal holdings in office, lambastes allies, treats the Treasury as a casino, actively endorses the poisoning of the environment, destabilizes NATO, baits minorities, lies incessantly, and oversees a resurgence of the white nationalist right. Any single gesture in any one of these areas would have been political death for most previous presidents. But we live in a time when we have come to expect that all this can now empower and even reward an American politician, rather than ruin him.

Next Tuesday will tell us whether that expectation is misplaced. Our polarization is so strong a real wave will be hard to achieve. But a president with this record and of this character can still be rebuked, repelled, and rejected, and, more importantly, so can his party. I know no more than anyone else, and yet I feel in my bones the opposite of what I felt two years ago. Then, it seemed obvious to me that Hillary Clinton had not sealed the deal, or come close to it, and that the freshness of the underdog and the populist tenor of the times could easily give us a Trump presidency. Now, it feels like the opposite. My instincts tell me that every single person whom this president has dismissed, insulted, or demonized will show up to vote. If they do, they will pierce the Trump bubble. They were a majority two years ago, after all, before this nightmare of governance began. They could be a bigger majority next Tuesday.

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Can the Republic Strike Back? By Andrew Sullivan (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2018 OP
There are far more decent Americans vlyons Nov 2018 #1
Golly, Andy . . . gratuitous Nov 2018 #2
There are many good reasons to dislike Sullivan but bronxiteforever Nov 2018 #3

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
1. There are far more decent Americans
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 04:25 PM
Nov 2018

than there are deplorables. As Trump's lies, chaos, corruption, and stupidities get more and more blatant, more and more decent Americans achieve new depths of disgust. After we take the House and begin hearings on all the malfeasance and corruption of the Trump era, the rats and cockroaches will slink off back to the sewer and pretend that they can't recall ever supporting Trump. Trumpsters will become pariahs.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Golly, Andy . . .
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 04:28 PM
Nov 2018

If only Trump's way hadn't been paved for him by a corrupt political party and whose racist policies hadn't been given credibility by a certain magazine editor who thought that the racist theories of Charles Bell needed a fair public hearing.

We remember, Mr. Sullivan, even if you'd prefer we forget.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
3. There are many good reasons to dislike Sullivan but
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 04:33 PM
Nov 2018

on a personal level, his column on the day after 2016 election made me realize I could not remain just a voter. It was gut wrenching and accurate. Mostly, I can’t stand him, but this column is great as well.

I believe this statement of his:

My instincts tell me that every single person whom this president has dismissed, insulted, or demonized will show up to vote. If they do, they will pierce the Trump bubble. They were a majority two years ago, after all, before this nightmare of governance began. They could be a bigger majority next Tuesday.

I do think the Republic hangs by a thread and, unlike Sullivan, I believe we have fantastic new leaders coming up the ranks.
But kick and recommend.

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