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douglas9

(4,358 posts)
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 06:13 AM Nov 2018

Troops Set Up Concertina Wire along Rio Grande

HIDALGO – An extra layer of security now lines the Rio Grande near the Hidalgo Port of Entry.

Troops were seen setting up concertina wire along the river.

We’re told troops were sent with enough wire to cover more than 150 miles.

Watch the video above for more information.

http://www.krgv.com/story/39410042/troops-set-up-concertina-wire-along-rio-grande

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Troops Set Up Concertina Wire along Rio Grande (Original Post) douglas9 Nov 2018 OP
Is this true? SWBTATTReg Nov 2018 #1
yeah. Kurt V. Nov 2018 #4
The republican Draft-dodger-in-Chief merits mass mockery Achilleaze Nov 2018 #2
fences and walls onethatcares Nov 2018 #3
Yes. When half our nation has no problem with a president Hortensis Nov 2018 #5
It's. not half Andy823 Nov 2018 #6
The 46% NON-voters of 2016 were in effect Hortensis Nov 2018 #10
I see your point Andy823 Nov 2018 #11
I wish that were true. Toward the end it became clear Hortensis Nov 2018 #13
What are they going to stop with it, deer? Blue_true Nov 2018 #7
Your tax dollars spreading hate across the border of our ally spanone Nov 2018 #8
Gloves, wire cutters, Ilsa Nov 2018 #9
Hungary, September 2015: dalton99a Nov 2018 #12

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
2. The republican Draft-dodger-in-Chief merits mass mockery
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 06:23 AM
Nov 2018

for his knee-knocking paranoia. Dirty Donny (R) is afraid one of the hungry, homeless children escaping from right-wing thugs will spoil his golden, gourmet, luxury republican golf goof offs (which we hard-working taxpayers are forced to pay for with our taxes).

onethatcares

(16,163 posts)
3. fences and walls
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 06:32 AM
Nov 2018

work two ways.

Back in elementary school I was told only communist and fascist regimes fenced their people in and kept them from traveling freely.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. Yes. When half our nation has no problem with a president
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 07:18 AM
Nov 2018

who says openly that he wants his people to fear and obey him, everyone should note that walls can work against those inside also.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
6. It's. not half
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 09:38 AM
Nov 2018

In the 2016 election:

200,081,377 registered voters

92,077,433 46 percent who did not vote

108,003,944 did vote

62,984,828 voted for trump

65,853,514 voted for Hillary Clinton

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. The 46% NON-voters of 2016 were in effect
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 10:38 AM
Nov 2018

Trump and Republican supporters, state and federal.

Voters don't create power. We allocate it, for instance to one or the other of only two candidates who will be our next president.

Every vote NOT cast for Trump's only opponent helped elect a man who was openly corrupt, depraved and immensely incompetent, admiring of murderous dictators, probably treasonous, and promising to commit injustices and persecute minorities.

Nonvoters aren't exactly democracy's strength. "It" couldn't have happened in Germany without them and won't happen here without them.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
11. I see your point
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 10:47 AM
Nov 2018

And I agree that those who did not vote helped trump, but the real diehard trump voters, who support him no matter what "did" vote, and I think many of those who did not vote "WILL" vote this time around. My point is half of this country does NOT support him. A lot of those who stayed him thought there was no way that trump could win so they just sat it out. Bad idea.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. I wish that were true. Toward the end it became clear
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 11:33 AM
Nov 2018

that Trump really could win. It must have brought some out, but not that remaining 46%.

Regarding them, note half of all Americans are conservative by nature. Although conservatives tend to be more reliable voters, a very large chunk of nonvoters would vote Republican if they did. (That has to include a lot of non-immigrant Hispanic conservatives with a tradition of not voting and for whom even many months of campaign insults and threats were not enough to make them vote for a white female Democratic candidate who was supported by a strong black bloc.)

That leaves probably over half of the 46% who aren't particularly conservative and who are typically white, less educated, and less affluent, and of course typically younger. Although some among the young will develop civic consciousness, most nonvoters seldom or never do get involved. This very diverse mess of people doesn't exactly average out to...average in any measure of citizenship.

After all, most came through two years of campaigning and claimed not be able to see a difference between or anything in either party worth voting for, or against. This was with a strikingly corrupt and predatory Republican congress, angry social/religous conservatives, and Trump facing off against liberal principles of equality and justice, women's and other civil rights, universal healthcare, protecting climate, affordable college and a living wage for full-time workers. A small portion, of course, were engaged radicals who eagerly soaked up all the anti-Democratic agitprop and refused to vote in outrage; those won't change.

Sigh. to both.

You're right, though -- of course -- that this time more are voting. The polls are so unreliable.
Until 2016 I was always an optimist, and in 2018 I'm really hoping they stand up in numbers large enough to be read as an unmistakable rejection of the nationalist and populist authoritarianism rising on the right.

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