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I hate liberterians (Original Post) Guppy Nov 2018 OP
Rand Paul is a perfect example, too Ohiogal Nov 2018 #1
Ying and yang. Throck Nov 2018 #2
Were you debating with one? treestar Nov 2018 #3
no Guppy Nov 2018 #8
Many Libertarians are Ayn Randers vlyons Nov 2018 #4
++++ Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #12
I keep wondering Hsapienssapiens Nov 2018 #18
Hell no she wouldn't refuse, it's why she cashed the SocSec checks the gov sent her. Volaris Nov 2018 #19
Yeah, she'd probably grab me so tight she'd drown me, too... Hsapienssapiens Nov 2018 #41
Agreed Volaris Nov 2018 #42
for a political belief, libertarianism is a joke, a system that has NEVER actually existed ANYWHERE, beachbum bob Nov 2018 #5
Oh, it exists in Somalia Downtown Hound Nov 2018 #35
That is the best example, along with Yemen. nt Blue_true Nov 2018 #44
ah libertarians... Locrian Nov 2018 #6
I say the same thing rownesheck Nov 2018 #7
Ayn Rand is such a bad writer MountCleaners Nov 2018 #21
Emotional, but emotionally immature. Very 9th grade. violetpastille Nov 2018 #31
Their purpose is to help Republicans win elections dalton99a Nov 2018 #9
Malignant repubs Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #15
They have no concept of the common good C_U_L8R Nov 2018 #10
On the plus side TheFarseer Nov 2018 #11
Here in GA Guppy Nov 2018 #13
"I'm a Libertarian!" concreteblue Nov 2018 #14
Ex-Speaker Ryan will embrace that idea. oasis Nov 2018 #40
They are loathsome! 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2018 #16
Best description of a Lib: A Republican that wants to smoke dope. Funtatlaguy Nov 2018 #17
Most of the self-identified Libertarians I have know are Libertarians because pot The Genealogist Nov 2018 #22
At least they take votes from Republicans Rizen Nov 2018 #20
Self obsessed immature dolts. Boomerproud Nov 2018 #23
A libertarian is a person who is for funding public roads stopbush Nov 2018 #24
I've said it so many times it's almost a mantra MurrayDelph Nov 2018 #25
Racist white wingers, too ashamed to call themselves Republicans. Hoyt Nov 2018 #26
A libertarian is like the guy who tells a group: "Let's all go in together on some pizza!" Aristus Nov 2018 #27
Robert Nozick was pretty decent Loki Liesmith Nov 2018 #28
an old but true classic DonCoquixote Nov 2018 #29
Spot on underpants Nov 2018 #30
Brilliant! VOX Nov 2018 #43
In my dictionary violetpastille Nov 2018 #32
IMO the irony of libertarianism is that logically it calls for total redistribution of all wealth... malchickiwick Nov 2018 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo Nov 2018 #34
Sorry. That was mean. Iggo Nov 2018 #36
There is a car radio commercial JonLP24 Nov 2018 #37
I am not a libertarian because I am an adult. nt Ohio Barbarian Nov 2018 #38
Why? Just look at all of succesful and booming Libertarian nations Roland99 Nov 2018 #39
Violet at # 32 said it better then I did. irisblue Nov 2018 #45

treestar

(82,383 posts)
3. Were you debating with one?
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 08:35 AM
Nov 2018

I find them to have a tendency towards oversimplification. And yes, they act "above it all." They are convinced they have the answers.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
4. Many Libertarians are Ayn Randers
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 08:36 AM
Nov 2018

who hate all gov, except military. They want to privatize gov and pay no taxes. Selfish me-first bastards

Hsapienssapiens

(7 posts)
18. I keep wondering
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 09:00 AM
Nov 2018

...Ayn Rand once said on national TV that "altruism is evil." So, if she were drowning and I, the altruist, swam out to save her, would she refuse the aid? Just asking...

And, if libertarians really don't want to pay taxes, why not just nationalize the oil industry? That would be the easiest way...no?

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
19. Hell no she wouldn't refuse, it's why she cashed the SocSec checks the gov sent her.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 09:49 AM
Nov 2018

Not refusing the charity of another is, in it's own way, the ultimate act of being a selfish, self important prick.
I used to think the guys who ran banks failed at their own twisted ideology for even asking for the bailout money, but I think that was incorrect:
OF COURSE they were going to ask for it. And of course we were going to say yes.

It's the difference between being charitibly self interested, and just enabling the spoiled children

Hsapienssapiens

(7 posts)
41. Yeah, she'd probably grab me so tight she'd drown me, too...
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 05:09 PM
Nov 2018

The dream scenario for Libertarians is a nightmare in reality, like Somalia of a few years ago...

They seem to ignore the fact that civilization is why humans became successful as a species.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
5. for a political belief, libertarianism is a joke, a system that has NEVER actually existed ANYWHERE,
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 08:36 AM
Nov 2018

ANY PLACE or at any time.

Hell they are my favorite people to mock

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
35. Oh, it exists in Somalia
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 01:17 PM
Nov 2018

A shining example of what no functional government and unrestricted and unregulated capitalism looks like.

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
7. I say the same thing
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 08:39 AM
Nov 2018

almost every day! Their whole "don't help anyone", "no government", "unregulated free market", "unregulated everything" garbage makes me angry. Isn't their hero ayn rand? Weren't the last years of her life spent living off social security and Medicare?

When there is only a repuke and a libertarian running for a certain office, i don't cast a vote for that office. I always hope that somehow they notice that.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
21. Ayn Rand is such a bad writer
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 10:54 AM
Nov 2018

I wouldn't trust the intellect of anyone who thinks she is worth anything.

Plus, she's supposed to be a rationalist, but her writing is really florid and emotional.

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
31. Emotional, but emotionally immature. Very 9th grade.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 12:58 PM
Nov 2018

In her books the guys are always flinging the women to the ground before sex. They never seem to do it any other way.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
15. Malignant repubs
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 08:46 AM
Nov 2018

almost as bad...but just barely. Agree to ALL the above.
I take that back...they ARE just as bad. Shot in the fanny w themselves re. "the answers"

C_U_L8R

(44,983 posts)
10. They have no concept of the common good
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 08:40 AM
Nov 2018

Something stopped developing in adolescence. It's all what's-in-it-for-me and fuck everyone else. It's time they grew up and started caring about the world and their neighbors.

TheFarseer

(9,317 posts)
11. On the plus side
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 08:41 AM
Nov 2018

Libertarians are like their Green Party, taking votes away from the R’s. Libertarians them selves are usually greedy dickheads or colossally misinformed on what having no government would actually be like.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
22. Most of the self-identified Libertarians I have know are Libertarians because pot
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 11:02 AM
Nov 2018

I haven't met many of them, most I have known I knew in college. They wanted pot to be legal. I don't think many of them cared about the rest of that morally bankrupt philosophy.

stopbush

(24,392 posts)
24. A libertarian is a person who is for funding public roads
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 11:41 AM
Nov 2018

as long as they intersect with the streets in their gated community.

MurrayDelph

(5,291 posts)
25. I've said it so many times it's almost a mantra
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 12:28 PM
Nov 2018

Libertarians are little prats who rationalize their selfishness by maintaining two falsehoods:

an artificially high (and false) opinion of their own self-worth, matched with
an artificially low (and equally-false) view of everyone else's.

Aristus

(66,275 posts)
27. A libertarian is like the guy who tells a group: "Let's all go in together on some pizza!"
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 12:33 PM
Nov 2018

The pizza arrives, he eats twice his allotted share, and then doesn't chip in.

Libertarians drive on public roads, but call the taxes levied to pay for them 'robbery'.

They breathe the air we pay to keep clean, but insist the government is taking away their hard-earned money.

They drink the water we pay to keep potable, but think environmental protection regulation is unfair to polluting corporations.

Fuck 'em...

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
32. In my dictionary
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 01:01 PM
Nov 2018

Libertarian:

"Someone who likes to smoke pot but hates black people."

(Someone always comes back at me, "NO they just don't want to pay taxes." That too.}

Independent:

A Republican that wants to have sex with Democrats.

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
33. IMO the irony of libertarianism is that logically it calls for total redistribution of all wealth...
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 01:11 PM
Nov 2018

Because, from an objective, rational analysis, their "I, Me, Mine" ideology only makes sense if everybody on the planet begins at the very exact same place economically.

The fact that the world is inherently unequal in how opportunity and resources are distributed is exactly what makes libertarianism a farce (and progressive-ism the only logical stance).

Response to Guppy (Original post)

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
37. There is a car radio commercial
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 01:26 PM
Nov 2018

It goes like "No one says to themselves I need to make this Republican cereal, take my kids to a Democratic school, fill my car with Libertarian gasoline." I'm like you wouldn't want Libertarian gasoline.

Their business freedoms are deadly but when it com3s to social policy we could be natural allies.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
39. Why? Just look at all of succesful and booming Libertarian nations
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 03:04 PM
Nov 2018

.........

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Uh. Wait. Never mind!

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