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torius

(1,652 posts)
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 05:04 AM Nov 2018

Is there a way to monitor gun purchase or permits records

So that we who prefer to be safe could check the social media accounts of the buyers? Maybe some of these crazed shooters could be stopped if people knew they had bought a gun and got the word out.

A lot of employers check social media before hiring an employee, I think people applying for gun permits or buying guns should be checked too. But since the NRA will never allow that, at least the public should be able to check.

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Is there a way to monitor gun purchase or permits records (Original Post) torius Nov 2018 OP
You want access to the ATF's private database? NickB79 Nov 2018 #1
The paranoids would just build them rather than buy them Amishman Nov 2018 #2
"Lawmakers Drafting Bill That Would Allow Social Media Checks Before Gun Purchase" sl8 Nov 2018 #3
Cool, thanks! torius Nov 2018 #4
"Some logistical concerns" ... Straw Man Nov 2018 #5

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
1. You want access to the ATF's private database?
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 09:38 AM
Nov 2018

To post the names of gun owners on Facebook?

You can see just how sideways that would go, right?

And no, it has been illegal to do what you proposed since the National Instant Background Check Sysytem was implemented in the early 1990's.

Amishman

(5,554 posts)
2. The paranoids would just build them rather than buy them
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 09:53 AM
Nov 2018

This is already starting to be more prevalent, can't find it now but I was reading about a bust in MA where a guy with a criminal record was caught with over a dozen home built guns. Between 3D printing and home CNC equipment, our laws aren't set up for the increasing ease of making guns at home without a lot of specialty knowledge

torius

(1,652 posts)
4. Cool, thanks!
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 03:02 AM
Nov 2018

Hope they can do it in a legal and fair way. Seems like a logical part of a background check.

Straw Man

(6,622 posts)
5. "Some logistical concerns" ...
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 04:05 AM
Nov 2018

Last edited Tue Nov 6, 2018, 01:46 PM - Edit history (2)

"Lawmakers Drafting Bill That Would Allow Social Media Checks Before Gun Purchase"

There are some logistical concerns as free speech and gun rights complaints are likely to come up.

That's the understatement of the century. Will this be done for every gun purchase? By whom? Police agencies don't have the manpower to perform these functions. The background check for my NY concealed carry permit took six months, and that was without a social media check.

How many social media outlets will be checked? Going back three years? How will the person's actual identity be verified through the smoke and mirrors of social media identities? What kind of content will be deemed objectionable? Will there be judicial oversight of the process? Does anyone have any idea of the scope of such an undertaking?

Without the creation of a sizable state agency dedicated to this task and this task alone, such a law would serve only as a massive impediment to all firearm purchases in New York State. I would suggest that this is by design, and this is just another salvo in the culture war that is gun control in contemporary America: another "let's stick it to the gun people" effort masquerading as "reasonable gun safety legislation." And since it is possible, even likely, that any potential perpetrator will have already procured his firearms before starting to post his screeds, this massive effort will ultimately be fruitless.

Headlines like this are a Republican strategist's wet dream.
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