White Evangelicals, This is Why People Are Through With You

[SHRED]

An older article worth reading.

And yet today, you openly give a “mulligan” to a white Republican man so riddled with depravity, so littered with extramarital affairs, so unapologetically vile, with such a vast resume of moral filth—that the mind boggles.

https://johnpavlovitz.com/2018/01/24/white-evangelicals-people/?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=johnpavlovitz

[msongs]

1. unfortunately they aren't through with us. maybe the rapture will come soon nt

[leftieNanner]

3. You nailed it!

This is what they are hoping for and they have decided that Trump was ordained by God to bring them to Jesus when he comes down to send the rest of us into the pits of despair.

I'm a church goer myself (choir, music librarian, vestry, etc.) but not THAT kind of church.

I think if their Rapture thing does happen, they will be very surprised to find out what happens.

[keithbvadu2]

7. Maybe the rapture has already happened... and they're still here with us.

Maybe the rapture has already happened... and they're still here with us.

[NastyRiffraff]

35. That toon captures them perfectly

It's not about God or morality. It's about money. Some of them actually SAY that: "Prosperity Gospel."

[keithbvadu2]

37. Judas was an early modern day conservative disciple.

Judas was an early modern day conservative disciple.

Judas got 30 pieces of silver, but just once, for selling Christ.

Pat Robertson, Jim Bakker and their ilk get millions of dollars repeatedly for selling Christ.

Judas was a fool for doing a one-time sale.

[ooky]

6. Watching them fly away would be nice.

[47of74]

20. Yeah just don't run into the street while watching them....

[ooky]

27. I laughed.

[kimbutgar]

34. Whenever I hear the word "rapture" that visual pops into my mind

I remember rewinding this and watching it several times. Just goes to show you how stupid evangelicals are, their lives So unhappy and miserable they dream of being raptured!

[CrispyQ]

36. One of their best openings ever!

I laughed so hard.

[libdem4life]

2. I'd like to add narcissistic, pathological liar.

And cheating people out of millions of dollars, jobs, livelihood and torn up families. Just to name a few others.

Morally depraved...all of them.

[littlemissmartypants]

33. Sociopathetic. eom

[zentrum]

4. Reading about ....

...the role of the Southern Evangelicals in the run up to the Civil War. They supported succession and were indifferent to or supportive of slavery.

Little about our current crisis is really new in America.

[NewJeffCT]

16. Interesting

I think white evangelicals are also the reason for the War on Christmas, but I can't find confirmation on google anymore (found an article years back, but have not been able to find it again)

The article can be summed up as follows - Back in the dawn of the television era, almost all the TV ads around the holiday season were all about "Merry Christmas" - toys and all other things to buy for Christmas. Evangelicals were aghast that the most holy of holidays were being associated with such crass commercialism, so they came up with the idea of saying "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" so that time of year won't be associated with just Christmas.

So, the War on Christmas when people say "Happy Holidays" actually originated with evangelicals 50-60 years ago.

[zentrum]

18. Very funny!

BTW--the reason they supported succession was that the minority of white landowning slave holders--the 1% of the 1860's--purposely manipulated their evangelical beliefs to turn them against the authority of a Central Government --so they'd fight for the landowners right to keep their slaves. Evangelicals have been against the Federal government ever since. Their only "authority" (hard to be believe given their racist cruelties) is supposedly the Bible.

Here's a book about it:

Confederate Reckoning: Power and Politics in the Civil War South, by Stephanie McCurry. Was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize in history in 2011. (The winner that year was Columbia’s Eric Foner for The Fiery Trial, about Lincoln’s changing views on slavery.)

[FakeNoose]

22. That's a new one on me

I always thought we changed to "Happy Holidays" because of political correctness. Not everyone celebrates Christmas so by saying "Merry Christmas" we're assuming that they actually are Christians who celebrate it. However it turns out that the change to "Happy Holidays" was made by the very people who are bitching and moaning now.

Go Figure!

[NewJeffCT]

24. as I said above

I'm almost certain a read an article on the history of Happy Holidays maybe 8-10-12 years ago that stated what I said above. However, I've tried to find it several times since and have NOT had luck. So, my memory could be wrong.

[FakeNoose]

26. I lived in New York for a while and I said "Happy Hanukkah" a lot

... maybe even more than I said "Merry Christmas!" I'm not Jewish but many of my friends and co-workers were.

[NewJeffCT]

29. I always make it a point to say "Happy Holidays" to people for personal reasons

I used to say happy holidays through high school & college in the 80s - in high school, I worked in a store where the owners were Jewish, so it stuck out to me as important to not exclude those who were not celebrating Christmas.

A few years after college, I stupidly decided that maybe I'll go around and say "Merry Christmas" to people instead. No idea why.

Of course, right after that, I met a very pretty, smart and outgoing young woman some time after Thanksgiving. After a great conversation (something I was horrible at in my teens and 20s, so I was really liking her), I ended with "Oh, have a very Merry Christmas" - and, of course, she came back with, "I'm Jewish" and not in the friendliest of tones.

The ONE TIME I did say "Merry Christmas" it screwed up a potential really cool girlfriend for myself.

Ever since, it's been Happy Holidays.

[Mersky]

32. My little holiday protest plan: Mappy Molidays!

I plan to respond to all smug or overly chipper Merry Christmas wishes with a tart, Mappy Molidays! This will do two things: tell me who's paying attention and allow me to respond to anyone actually taken aback that, "if you actually care about how I responded, then you probably don't deserve a Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays."

I'm not about to conform to right wing Christians' senses of entitlement to dominate all corners of life in this country.

I'll save the real holiday wishes for the kiddos, especially those torn from their families by the Criminal in Chief and gang.

[moondust]

5. And parents in general,

if you support this POS do you really presume to have the moral authority to discipline your own children when they start acting like him?

[tclambert]

8. If you don't specify a name they will accuse you of attacking Trump

though it could apply to many Republicans.

[Texin]

21. I think it applies to ALL of the remaining stalwart rethugs.

They've sold their souls out to tRump. God - whatever or whether one believes or not - or karma is watching.

[Xipe Totec]

9. Evangelicals are swine selling bacon. nt

[renate]

10. John Pavlovitz is SO good

I follow him on Facebook... he is consistently excellent.

[LudwigPastorius]

11. "...you openly give a "mulligan" to a white Republican man so riddled with depravity, so..."

...and, their reply will be, "God works in mysterious ways".

As long as they get their SC ruling overturning Roe, they could justify supporting Satan himself.

[YOHABLO]

12. Ironic isn't it. Talk about making deals with Devil.

[Pepsidog]

13. Brilliant piece of writing, the depravity of Evangelicals is mind boggling.

[UTUSN]

14. Perfectly said, thanks for posting. Sent it out to e-mail circle, including a couple of the culprits

[Initech]

15. Yup, they trashed Clinton but somehow Trump gets a mulligan. WTF.

[OMGWTF]

23. IOKIYAR

[dlk]

17. Amen!

[SWBTATTReg]

19. What's sad about our posts and the like criticisms that they receive, is that the evangelicals ...

won't read and/or absorb any of the criticisms what-so-ever.

They are in a mindset so fixed that the world around them could blow up and yet, they'll be still stubborn and not alter one iota of their thinking. It's like the evangelicals who sold everything, their properties, everything in 1844 because the end of the world was coming and it didn't. They did this same thing in the year 1000, the 2000, and I'm sure that there some additional years for some reason they determined that the end was coming.

It's dangerous to follow a cult as we all know. These people who supposedly study the bible 24x7x365 obviously haven't really looked critically at what rump is doing, and even going so far to condone rump's actions (by not really looking at rump's words/actions, they are condoning everything rump has done).

What actions? This p***y grabber has led efforts to repeal the ACA, gave the bulk of the last tax act to the ultra rich (83%), and are actively engaged in shutting down numerous services and the like that serve our elderly, our poor (meals on wheels comes to mind), the disabled, minorities. These people in my mind are actively supporting the devil's own work by supporting such an obviously flawed candidate as rump.

Believe me, if I ever saw one of these so called 'christians', I would not hesitate to give them a piece of my mind. I would chase them off my property (I did on my parents property when they came around) and do ask them to leave my property when they have come to my door. Believe me, I don't feel bad whatsoever in doing so, after all, they've shut the door on so many truly needing help in these days and times (look at what rump is doing w/ the refugees streaming through Mexico now...a truly sad and horrible situation, why aren't more US churches helping these people out? Where is the so called Christian spirit?

One of the words I'd use is pathetic and hypocrites, who are obviously very partisan.

[ChoppinBroccoli]

25. Because Evangelicals Only Have Two Core Beliefs

1. Hate gays.

2. Hate abortion.

The end.

[LiberalLovinLug]

28. One more

3. Hate women in positions of power

[lindysalsagal]

30. Ain't it the truth. Amen.

[vi5]

31. Good, now that everyone finally seems to agree....

....on what many of us have known and said for decades now, can we all agree to laugh in the face of any "consultant" or "strategist" or anyone on "our side" who tells us what we can do to appeal to these people? The answer is nothing. It was nothing when we tried to appeal to them after their phony outrage over Bill Clinton. It was nothing when we tried to appeal to them by betraying women and lgbtq allies by making unnecessary compromises on birth control and abortion and gay rights and all of it. And it's nothing now.

So rather than listening to people who say our path to victory and sustained leadership is to appeal to these hypocrites, let's do what we should have always been doing which is laugh at them and strengthen our appeals to our base and to the people who believe in what we believe.

[Mersky]

38. Check, check, checkety-check,... for every point Pavlovitz wrote

Lemme start by saying that I am not religious. Haven't been since I was appalled to my core when I learned of the Spanish Inquisition and of slavery when I was thirteen. I announced to my folks that I couldn't align myself with any institutionalized religion, because of the danger that religion and power poses to the greater good of humanity. These days, I feel that I am back in eighth grade aghast at the behavior and views of people who call themselves Christians. Every. Single. Day.
For years.

I am trying to find the words to tell various conned conservatives I have to interact with on a weekly basis that they don't need to pray for me or my mother going thru cancer treatment and facing insufficient health insurance options for next year or my 90 yr old father in law who is recovering from a broken vertebra whilst being sued, again, by a 'Christian' neighbor who can't keep his bulldozer to himself. I really don't want thoughts and prayers from trump supporters as they are meaningless.

[UTUSN]

39. I want to kick this again

[ck4829]

40. K&R

[JI7]

41. White Evangelicals have been exposed as White Supremacists with their support for Trump