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sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 08:21 AM Nov 2018

Final CNN poll : Dems 55% GOP 42%




CNN POLL CONDUCTED BY SSRS
Nov. 1-3
Likely Voters’
Choice for Congress

Democrat 55%
Republican 42%

Indies prefer Dems 53 to 39....

Likely Voters’
Choice for Congress

Women Men

Democrat 62% 48%
Republican 35% 49%




How Trump Is Handling
His Job as President

Approve 39%
Disapprove 55%

Worst position for a President going into a midterm ever.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/05/politics/cnn-poll-midterms-democrats-advantage/index.html

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GOP winning men by 1%....that would really be something, Dems winning women by 27%
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Final CNN poll : Dems 55% GOP 42% (Original Post) sunonmars Nov 2018 OP
Best part of all these polls is the word "final" manor321 Nov 2018 #1
well its Nov 5th, no time for anymore now, its done dusted. sunonmars Nov 2018 #2
The final poll will be completed tomorrow. It will likely take some time to compile. Vote! tootsie99 Nov 2018 #7
Being so far ahead, I only hope safeinOhio Nov 2018 #3
I stopped believing in polls when Trump was elected. nt zanana1 Nov 2018 #4
The polls reflected the people, it was the electoral clown college that failed there ck4829 Nov 2018 #10
Agree Cheviteau Nov 2018 #22
yea for real bdamomma Nov 2018 #15
We did as well. TNNurse Nov 2018 #17
wow i just watched about 30 seconds of morning joe barbtries Nov 2018 #5
Avoid the TV channels, they want a horse race for viewing figures, sunonmars Nov 2018 #6
i have to. barbtries Nov 2018 #8
+1000 llmart Nov 2018 #9
I am avoiding them all until tomorrow night DesertRat Nov 2018 #11
That might actually help us. honest.abe Nov 2018 #12
Impressive numbers. honest.abe Nov 2018 #13
Polls bdamomma Nov 2018 #14
EAT IT TRUMP 39% spanone Nov 2018 #16
Kick for Blue Wave!🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊 oasis Nov 2018 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2018 #19
Fuck the noise. Fuck the pundits. GOTV! dalton99a Nov 2018 #20
Exactly. Polls don't vote. nt Blue_true Nov 2018 #28
anybody dressing up as scary caravan people? Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #30
I'm going with, watoos Nov 2018 #21
It's the synagogue shooting now being reflected DeminPennswoods Nov 2018 #23
55% to 42% watoos Nov 2018 #26
That incident has been a big kicker here on the other side of the state too BumRushDaShow Nov 2018 #35
His followers are such bullies, loud and obnoxious like their fearless leader it appears redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #24
I can't wait for the poll tomorrow workinclasszero Nov 2018 #25
You bet, watoos Nov 2018 #29
Oh yeah workinclasszero Nov 2018 #31
Ignore the polls. If you haven't voted, make sure you do. Blue_true Nov 2018 #27
there are a few things that are really staggering about these numbers. unblock Nov 2018 #32
The problem is, people don't vote in a generic nationwide poll. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2018 #33
Hopeful...but then there's this little devil... FailureToCommunicate Nov 2018 #34
I am a proud member of the 48% of men in this country who aren't insane. scheming daemons Nov 2018 #36

Cheviteau

(383 posts)
22. Agree
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 10:19 AM
Nov 2018

You are absolutely correct. The founders devised the electoral college system to protect us from lying loudmouth tyrants that may come along and bamboozle the ignorant. I've never blamed anyone but the electoral college voters for what we are seeing today. They failed us miserably.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
17. We did as well.
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 09:49 AM
Nov 2018

I went to bed believing she would win and woke up to a nightmare. The election is the only real poll.

barbtries

(28,789 posts)
5. wow i just watched about 30 seconds of morning joe
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 09:04 AM
Nov 2018

and according to them it's so tight it could go either way.

i'm avoiding polls now especially the talking heads. in fact if i could i would go into hibernation until wednesday because i am too stressed.

barbtries

(28,789 posts)
8. i have to.
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 09:16 AM
Nov 2018

for the moment at least.
and you're exactly right. they're pushing for viewers to be glued into their channel. i'm thinking i'll do my best to go to sleep super early and maybe wake up for Colbert on Tuesday.

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
12. That might actually help us.
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 09:39 AM
Nov 2018

Sometimes our side needs a bit of fear motivation during the mid-terms. The Repubs always tend to show up regardless.

bdamomma

(63,840 posts)
14. Polls
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 09:42 AM
Nov 2018

blah. Just everyone get out the VOTE. Plus if anyone gives you problems ask for a provisional write in vote.

At least the Native Indians are voting, after their poor fiasco given to them.

Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,331 posts)
30. anybody dressing up as scary caravan people?
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 10:59 AM
Nov 2018

Just wondering if there are plans to dress up as the migrants are depicted in those apocalypse ads and dance near polling places -- over 100 feet away, of course. Could you be charged for causing fainting spells, anxiety attacks, or stampedes?

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
21. I'm going with,
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 10:05 AM
Nov 2018

Democrats taking back the Senate, and,

taking back the House by flipping 55 to 60 seats.

All of that polling doesn't take into account unlikely voters who are going to vote Democratic.
All of that polling and even early voting results does not take into account Registered Republicans who are going to vote Democratic.

It's so close to tomorrow I can hear the blue tsunami coming.

DeminPennswoods

(15,285 posts)
23. It's the synagogue shooting now being reflected
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 10:21 AM
Nov 2018

in polls. Most of the other recent polls only caught the day of and/or day after the shootings. There's a little of the magabomber, too, but luckily no one died.

I'm a little closer to the situation being here in PA, but you could literally feel the shock, then the disgust set in. That coupled with the response of the Squirrel Hill, Jewish and wider Pittsburgh area community made a stark contrast with Trump's hateful rhetoric that inspired the shooter. I think it was the final straw for many Americans. That's why this poll result doesn't surprise me at all.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
26. 55% to 42%
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 10:53 AM
Nov 2018

is big enough of a margin to overcome the rigged voting machines.

13% is a big number, whoo hoo, I can't wait for tomorrow when we find out that 13% was low ball.

BumRushDaShow

(128,902 posts)
35. That incident has been a big kicker here on the other side of the state too
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 11:27 AM
Nov 2018

particularly because we have a large Jewish population here in Philly, the numbers of which would be equivalent to ~70% of the population of the entire city of Pittsburgh.

We will definitely need whatever extra turnout is necessary to ensure that Casey and Wolf get re-elected (for state level races).

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
24. His followers are such bullies, loud and obnoxious like their fearless leader it appears
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 10:27 AM
Nov 2018

there are more of them than there really are. They think they can bully and intimidate us into submission, just like the orange moron.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
29. You bet,
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 10:58 AM
Nov 2018

and it's only going to get worse. Wait until those Trumpers who got $25.00 more per pay file their taxes at the end of the year and don't get that big refund they are used to getting.

Trumpers are pretty gullible people but I think Trump's 35% base is going to shrink a lot more.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
27. Ignore the polls. If you haven't voted, make sure you do.
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 10:56 AM
Nov 2018

Use today and tonight and tomorrow before polls close to call anyone that has not voted and press them to vote.

unblock

(52,205 posts)
32. there are a few things that are really staggering about these numbers.
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 11:08 AM
Nov 2018

first, disapproval of 50% or worse is remarkable in a democracy.

second, this is not an anomaly. per gallup (https://news.gallup.com/poll/203207/trump-job-approval-weekly.aspx), donnie has had disapproval of 50% or worse for his entire presidency with the sole exception of his first week, just after his inauguration.

third, it's mind-blowing that the historical levels of disapproval of the presidency *and* the widespread notion that the midterms are a referendum on donnie, republicans could easily not lose seats in the senate, and might even gain one.

fourth, gerrymanding and voter suppression and disenfranchisement and voter id and other dirty tricks will still have a big impact. even while 538 predicts on average a gain of around 38 seats for democrats, this is far lower than it should be, or would be, in the absence of such dirty electoral tricks.

fifth, it remains mind-boggling that he has even 39% approval, despite making it his mission to offend virtually anyone who isn't a white, male, christian, rich, conservative, straight, cis, natural-born citizen of natural-born parents.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,851 posts)
33. The problem is, people don't vote in a generic nationwide poll.
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 11:16 AM
Nov 2018

They vote for specific people in individual offices: Governor, Senator, Representative, their state house and senate. Mayor, city council, county commission. Thanks to Gerrymandering, or more correctly thanks to Republicans understanding how districts are drawn and making sure they are the ones in charge of drawing them, they hold disproportionate power at the ballot box.

Very few offices are elected by state wide voting: Governor, Senator, Secretary of State for that state, and a few others. For every other office, exactly where you live affects who you can vote for. And if Democrats win by big margins in specific districts in, say, the House races, but narrowly lose the ones they lose, overall Democrats could garner a lot more votes and still not take back the House. Essentially that's what happened in the Presidential vote two years ago.

Please do not accuse me of being a Debbie Downer. I've been through too many elections in my lifetime, and remember all of them very clearly. Especially starting in 2000. I also recall very clearly the myriad of stories in '03 and '04 about the voters who'd gone for W in 2000 but sure as hell weren't going to vote for him four yeas later. Made it look like President Kerry was a sure thing. In the end, W got some 12 million more votes than he got the first time, and won the popular vote with as good a margin as is usually expected. Think about that. 12 million MORE votes despite supposed wide-spread opposition to him and his awful war in Afghanistan. Which we're still fighting, by the way.

A lot of people, especially on the Liberal/Progressive/Democratic side fail to understand the depth of the hatred for us that a significant percentage of people out there have. A lot of people who voted for Trump in 2016 were not die-hard Trump supporters, but they sure as hell weren't about to vote for Hillary. The Republicans understand all too well just how to motivate people to vote for them. They do it mostly by stirring up fear and loathing, and it's incredibly effective.

For the most part I trust and respect FiveThirtyEight. That site tells us the Dems have an 87% chance of taking the House, but only a 16% chance of taking the Senate. Taking the House will be huge, but without the Senate there is almost no hope of passing meaningful legislation, and of course every single judge Trump nominates will be confirmed. And all of the awful people he's appointed to head the very agencies they want destroyed will still be working at those agencies. We have a very, very long way to go.

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