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Sometimes I have to ask myself if wingers are really as bad as they all seem to be at any given time (Original Post) MrScorpio Nov 2018 OP
Yes, they are (n/t) PJMcK Nov 2018 #1
Invariably, yes. Baitball Blogger Nov 2018 #2
And getting worse and worse every day dalton99a Nov 2018 #3
They're also victims. The extremely wealthy pulling on those Hortensis Nov 2018 #4

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
2. Invariably, yes.
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 10:16 AM
Nov 2018

A fellow Dem friend and I were engaged in a conversation on Facebook, trying to correct another friend's misjudgment of posting a meme that falsely claimed Feinstein said that gun control would put an end to all crime. The comeback in the meme was Sam Elliot making one of those straw-chewing, back-throat put-downs, i.e. If stupid had wings, you'd be a jet. Then, all of a sudden, some right-winger came out and started posting the usual lies.

Foolish me, I looked up links that would prove him wrong. He didn't like it. Eventually, he posted a comment that was actionable. I'm not sure who he was directing his remarks to because he mentioned something about 36 years, and then ended the sentence that someone should put a noose around your neck.

I turned him into Facebook, and so did my friend. And then we blocked him so I can't tell you what happened. His profile photo showed a white guy with a rifle in a field, in a shooting position.

Yes, this kind of thing is right out there.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. They're also victims. The extremely wealthy pulling on those
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 10:34 AM
Nov 2018

rings through their noses have a very large cake cutter, and they're using it to take wealth and power from all of us.

For instance, they want to stop paying into social programs, or at least cut their share of taxes dramatically. Conservatives like their social programs very much, thank you, as much as we do as long as they don't go to the undeserving.

Gee, how to get conservative voters to agree to cut their own programs?

Well, support for our social programs drops substantially when it's believed a disproportionate share is going to the "undeserving" taking what they don't have a right to and haven't contributed for. We all feel that way to varying degrees, but conservatives especially. It's not just negativism. They honestly see misguided social spending as very harmful to the moral fiber of society, and there is strong evidence that it can be, but they're encouraged to imagine it a huge problem, rather than small, and not to recognize the very real benefits of some charity to and investments in others.

So a big part of the answer is to make conservative voters believe that they're being cheated while large numbers of scum are making out like bandits and that the fix is to "reform" social spending. Of course, Republican reforms out to be cuts for everyone and new restrictions on access. But that's not what's being explained to them, and they're kept too indignant and distracted by visions of millions of smirking cheaters swigging beer in their recliners to notice. Until it's too late, of course, and then their handlers will make sure they take the wrong lesson from it.

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