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allgood33

(1,584 posts)
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:01 AM Nov 2018

This is what hurts so bad...

Trump lies, degrades, incites violence. The GOP lie, cheats, surpasses.

And it doesn't matter to 50% of our fellow citizens. It just fucking doesn't matter. They don't care!! They applaud it!! They revel in it!

They know as we know that Stacey would have won had it not been for the voter purging. They know and we know that FL carried out more hanky-panky with voting machines.

I have a broken heart for all those kids and voters who stood in line to vote early, who voted in rain yesterday. These people deserve better, we all deserve better. DAMN IT! WHEN WILL THE UNIVERSE PUNISH THESE BASTARDS??

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bullwinkle428

(20,628 posts)
1. I totally hear you. I live in Iowa, where a certain portion of the state re-elected
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:03 AM
Nov 2018

an open Nazi.

At the same time when the other 3 districts sent Democrats to the House.

 

MrGrieves

(315 posts)
2. He is going down
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:05 AM
Nov 2018

Look he has gotten away with everything the last two years. That isnt going to happen anymore with us in the house. MORE will get exposed and when this tax bomb goes off this next spring people are going to wake up. He has betting with the economy like a drunk at the blackjack table so his luck is going to run out sooner or later and that's when it is unfortunately going to come home to roost.

We need to take today off, celebrate or mourn whatever you gotta do, but then the real resistance work begins.

philf99

(238 posts)
6. I pray you are right but fear you wrong
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:16 AM
Nov 2018

My opinion is that last night shows the politics of hate and division work real well in many parts of the country.

This is exactly how Trump will play his reelection campaign.

I see him losing the popular vote again but I see very good scenarios where he win the EC by dividing the country

renegade000

(2,301 posts)
3. The right-wing/Fox "news" bubble is strong...
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:07 AM
Nov 2018

We have to figure out how to pierce it in the absence of outside shocks (e.g., recessions).

To some extent the current realignment of more educated/suburban communities to the Dems is likely a result of interpersonal networks helping with this, but there's a big chunk of the country that this doesn't reach...

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
4. I hear you...but I lived in Georgia for over 10 years...it is a tough state for Democrats
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:07 AM
Nov 2018

Half the time, you don't even have Democrats running in the races. I think purging hurt us but, I don't know if she wins without it. I hope so.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
7. it's important to remember that the Repubs approach of appealing to racism and bigotry is tactical
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:23 AM
Nov 2018

more than it is strategic...the party recognized they can easily get votes from huge numbers of white people just by appealing to their already inherent racism and fear...granted, these characteristics are fostered by the hate-mongering feedback loop of right-wing/AM radio/evangelical "Christian" influencers, but it was the recognition of these reactionary mental defects being deeply bred into the white voting population that led the Republican party to adopt this approach as their basic campaign platform in the first place; it's not as if the party itself caused the people to think that way...after all, it was only with the "Southern Strategy" that the openly racist, white-supremacist voters moved away from the Democratic party that had been their home since the mid-1800's.

jpljr77

(1,004 posts)
8. It's NOT 50%. Republicans don't have the majority of votes or hearts or minds in America.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:24 AM
Nov 2018

Yesterday, 50,605,144 people (51.1%) voted for Democrats and 46,744,251 (47.2%) voted for Republicans.

In the Senate, it was 45,019,157 (56.8%) Democrat 32,999,700 (41.6%) Republican.

In Governor races, it was 40,585,781 (49.2%) Democrat 39,857,598 (48.3%) Republican.

In 2016, only 46.1% voted for Trump, nearly 3,000,000 votes fewer than Hillary Clinton.

A Republican hasn't won a majority of votes in a presidential election since GWB in 2004 when he won 50.7%. And HE was the first since his father in 1988.

Republicans and their advisors decided a long time ago that this is the way things are. Rather than attempting to change it by, you know, appealing to more people, they opted to game, and in some cases, rig the system to their advantage. They DO NOT CARE about the will of the people, they only care about winning.

Democrats need to take note of this. There have been great gains in ungerrymandering the country, but it's going to take more.

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