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Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:15 AM Nov 2018

Overall a good night - with dark shadows

Largely through the hard work of the Resistance the Republic lives to fight another day. With Democratic control of the House, Trumps crimes will not be swept under the rug. There will be no more tax givaways to the rich. Republican corruption will be probed. Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and Obamacare have protection in the House of Representatives, where Democrats now govern by a relatively comfortable margin. This is all HUGE. Had Democrats failed to take the House everything was at grave risk with a power hungry and emboldened Chief Executive reigning unchecked in the White House. This can't be overstated. Thus if for no other reason, it was a good night.

Americans now have voted, with significant majorities, against Trump in the popular vote in 2016, and now against Republicans in both the House and Senate if the cumulative votes for members of both bodies are tallied by party preference. That at the very least says something at least mildly reassuring about the American people, even though our political system is slanted toward rural America by granting every state two Senators regardless of its actual population. With the House systematic gerrymandering in favor of Republicans muted some of the Democratic surge but it could not stop it. And the machinery by which Republicans managed to install those gerrymandered districts has now shifted somewhat against them. With Democratic pick ups in important Governorships and with Democratic gains in State legislatures. much of that gerrymandering now can be reversed for subsequent elections.

Democrats elected new generations of leadership last night, something our Party desperately needed. Many dynamic younger candidates won seats in Congress, they represent a positive future for all of us. The same holds true for State and local contests where strong new candidates were recruited - and won.

It remains frightening however exactly how much racism remains active in America, and how many low information voters continue to fall in line behind a wannabe Strongman in Trump. This would terrify me if our resistance had not proved its mettle against him last night. We rounded a corner with Democratic non presidential year turn out finally starting to surge. The battle is now engaged. We have to build on these victories and not be discouraged by our losses. Remember, this was still "an off year election" and statistics about the economy favored the Republicans. The odds of an economic slow down before 2020 are relatively high. The potential for damning information about Republican rule emerging from Democratic oversight in the House are great. And then there is the work of Special Counsel Mueller yet to be fully revealed.

New leaders are emerging in our Party even if all of them could not yet break through last night. We must keep up the fight, we are actually (slowly) winning.

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Overall a good night - with dark shadows (Original Post) Tom Rinaldo Nov 2018 OP
One of the DARKEST SHADOWS: russian meddling in 2018 elections Achilleaze Nov 2018 #1
The results from FL and GA sure look suspicious. lark Nov 2018 #2
Yes, I suspect lots of republican-russian electoral scuzz will surface Achilleaze Nov 2018 #4
Another thing, the Democratic Socialist message works DeminPennswoods Nov 2018 #3
The Democratic rebound in in Midwestern states was definitely a major bright spot Tom Rinaldo Nov 2018 #6
Our System Is Rigged colsohlibgal Nov 2018 #5

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. One of the DARKEST SHADOWS: russian meddling in 2018 elections
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:21 AM
Nov 2018

The republicans' darkside partners in crime, russian BLACK OPS, significantly screwed around with our election again. Meanwhile republicans stuck their heads up their asses, and did not lift a finger to slow the russian attacks down, or to protect and defend the integrity of US democracy.

Article in this morning's New York Times ON Russian Meddling in the Midterms.

They haven’t stopped trying to influence our elections.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/06/opinion/midterm-elections-russia.html?emc=edit_th_181107&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=479430271107

"...a senior analyst for our cybersecurity company, suggests that while these measures may have rendered some of the Russian tactics of 2016 less effective, they haven’t fully stopped Russian influence operations. In many instances, they seem to have merely caused Russia to shift or develop new tactics...

"Indeed, our company is currently detecting more overall activity in real time from continuing Russian online influence operations targeting the midterm elections than has been disclosed by social media platforms or detected by researchers during the same period before the election in 2016..."

lark

(23,083 posts)
2. The results from FL and GA sure look suspicious.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:39 AM
Nov 2018

My husband says I'm crazy and just don't want to accept the fact that so many Floridians are idiot racist haters. However, a state that approves letting felons vote after they've paid their time does not seem like a state that would elect Scott 3 times and DeSantis? Also the fact that Scott, DeSantis & Kemp all won by 1% or less just seems extremely suspicious and then add in drumpfs win in FL by 1% in 2016 just seems to be so artificially contrived.

DeminPennswoods

(15,273 posts)
3. Another thing, the Democratic Socialist message works
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 12:08 PM
Nov 2018

If I were head of the DSCC/DCCC/DNC, I'd be recruiting DSA members to run in these midwestern states. Just look at the ballot initiatives that passed for expanded medicaid and minimum wages in these states.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
6. The Democratic rebound in in Midwestern states was definitely a major bright spot
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 01:36 PM
Nov 2018

And the message that our candidates there carried was a winning one. When voters vote on the real issues, rather than getting emotionally manipulated by fear, mongering we usually do well.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
5. Our System Is Rigged
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 01:31 PM
Nov 2018

Thom Hartmann today pointed out that 12 million more people voted for democratic senators than republicans yet they will keep running the Senate.

Hillary gets 3 million more votes than that Orange nightmare yet loses, Gore got more votes than Dubya yet loses.

The Electoral College was put in to mollify the racist South and we’re still paying big for it. The way the Senate is set up is not much different.

It all stinks and we need to enjoy taking the Housr back then get to work changing the whole Damn system that has us where we are.

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