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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 02:31 PM Nov 2018

I fully support Stacey Abrams' insistence on counting all the votes.

There is less than 100,000 votes difference. All the absentee and provisional votes aren't counted. And there was fraud going on...I think there's a lawsuit still on file about it. She's hoping for a runoff, which I fully support at this time.

I'm sure she's discouraged and dirt tired. I commend her for her grit and energy in going the distance. She's amazing.

Sad that Gillum conceded, since there is also less than 100,000 votes difference, and that's a huge state. Maybe that will change...do they still count all the votes, even though one has conceded?

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I fully support Stacey Abrams' insistence on counting all the votes. (Original Post) Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 OP
me too! samnsara Nov 2018 #1
Don't think conceding means anything. That can be withdrawn. Hoyt Nov 2018 #2
hope so cuz Andrews closing in! samnsara Nov 2018 #3
Absolutely montanacowboy Nov 2018 #4
Catch 22 for democracy--SOS is also candidate. Why? librechik Nov 2018 #5
I know. You'd think there'd be a state law requiring the SOS to recuse his SOS duties... Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #8
What is the threshold for a runoff? NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #6
I don't know. I read that Nelson is expecting a runoff... Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #9
I don't think Florida has a runoff NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #12
Pardon me...recount. Wash Post is reporting ... Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #15
The winner has to top 50% or a runoff takes place. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2018 #13
So do I. smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #7
russians colluded with republicans AGAIN this year to screw over US democracy Achilleaze Nov 2018 #10
recount, re-recount, re-re-recount Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #11
There was a lawsuit... Baconator Nov 2018 #14

samnsara

(17,606 posts)
1. me too!
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 02:31 PM
Nov 2018

..we had a HORRIBLE person win the Wash state Governorship over our female incumbent. She insisted on a recount....actually TWO recounts.... and she WON!

librechik

(30,674 posts)
5. Catch 22 for democracy--SOS is also candidate. Why?
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 02:38 PM
Nov 2018

did we tolerate this? Same sort of thing happened in 2000 in Florida, when SOS was Bush campaign chairman. There should be lawsuits! Oh, yeah, SCOTUS. We are so fucked.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
8. I know. You'd think there'd be a state law requiring the SOS to recuse his SOS duties...
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 02:43 PM
Nov 2018

for his own election. It's a huge conflict of interest.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
6. What is the threshold for a runoff?
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 02:38 PM
Nov 2018

I had heard that the Abrams team thought they were past that threshold, but I have not seen confirmation

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
9. I don't know. I read that Nelson is expecting a runoff...
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 02:49 PM
Nov 2018

but I don't know if that has changed.

Heard pundit on tv say that recounts almost never change the initial result. Still, so much is at stake, and FL is so important, that I think the Democratic Party should support a full-out effort to turn over every rock to make sure that Abrams and Nelson weren't elected, even by a few votes.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
12. I don't think Florida has a runoff
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 02:55 PM
Nov 2018

correct me if I'm wrong.

The runoff in GA would be another full election on December 4th between just Abrams and Kemp, and no 3rd party candidates. That will be all about turnout.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
15. Pardon me...recount. Wash Post is reporting ...
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 02:58 PM
Nov 2018

Wash Post is reporting that Nelson has stated "We are proceeding to a recount..."

Yay! Don't give up the ship, if there's a glimmer of a chance.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
7. So do I.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 02:38 PM
Nov 2018

I think there is a very good chance that more than 100,000 voters have been purged from the rolls in that state (probably mostly minorities) if not more. You will never convince me that they didn't cheat.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
10. russians colluded with republicans AGAIN this year to screw over US democracy
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 02:51 PM
Nov 2018

See article on russian electoral meddling in today's New York Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/06/opinion/midterm-elections-russia.html?emc=edit_th_181107&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=479430271107

"...a senior analyst for our cybersecurity company, suggests that while these measures may have rendered some of the Russian tactics of 2016 less effective, they haven’t fully stopped Russian influence operations. In many instances, they seem to have merely caused Russia to shift or develop new tactics..."

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,259 posts)
11. recount, re-recount, re-re-recount
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 02:53 PM
Nov 2018

Kemp screwed with voters and votes. Keep recounting until a (non-partisan) judge weighs in.

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
14. There was a lawsuit...
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 02:57 PM
Nov 2018

Filed yesterday requesting that Kemp be barred from oversight of any follow counts etc..

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