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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAndrew Gillum Unconcedes As Florida Governor Race Heads For Recount
Florida Democratic gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum has walked back his concession of defeat as more ballots are left to be counted.
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/11/08/andrew-gillum-unconcedes-as-florida-governor-race-heads-for-recount.html
hlthe2b
(102,200 posts)manor321
(3,344 posts)Now can we get Al Gore to unconcede the 2000 race?
diva77
(7,639 posts)We have so many gaping wounds in recent US history as a result of what happened in 2000 election.
Sam3
(3 posts)rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)Thrill
(19,178 posts)obamanut2012
(26,064 posts)And, all were native Floridians who have seen a lot of elections down here.
California_Republic
(1,826 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)out of respect to his supporters and people who worked so hard on his campaign. Look what Abrams is doing in Georgia.
dalton99a
(81,432 posts)Your supporters want to make sure their votes are counted. Pretty sure they can wait 48 hours for you to thank them
quakerboy
(13,918 posts)Either you win or you lose. The result is in the votes that get counted, not in your own personal opinion of whether you did well enough or not, nor in whether you make a phone call or speach after the voting has stopped.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)California_Republic
(1,826 posts)forgotmylogin
(7,524 posts)Plus people want results, and there's always a party for both candidates, so a concession or an acceptance speech is expected at the end of the night.
I agree if the count is within 3% they should definitely hold off and give a Stacey Abrams "To be continued!" speech without conceding.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)But when it's so close one needs to wait.
quakerboy
(13,918 posts)Its one thing to acknowledge that your opponent seems to have gotten more votes this time, and stating that you give up.
The Mouth
(3,148 posts)quakerboy
(13,918 posts)Especially given how someone ends up rescinding it pretty much every election these days.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)onethatcares
(16,165 posts)that concession stuck in my craw. Let's take it home.
Bfd
(1,406 posts)Saying now the margins are so close, he still has a chance although he is still a small % behind.
He has to hang in there!
spanone
(135,816 posts)ffr
(22,668 posts)Being liberal is something to hold your head up proud about.
Being illiberal however, should be scorned.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)We have to find some way to counteract that type of thing. Otherwise margin for error is gone. Huge difference between 37% saying DeSantis is too conservative and 46% believing Gillum was too liberal.
Republicans pushed the fear that Gillum was a socialist and Florida would turn into another Venezuela. It was rejected by Politico as false, and by anybody with a fleck of common sense as laughable, but apparently it was very effective among heavily Cuban districts of Miami, where Gillum lost 16 points compared to Hillary in 2016. That 16 points was more than enough to shift the statewide outcome.
This Miami Herald article from early September is now being spotlighted as very accurate toward what played out in those Cuban districts. In recent days I have seen references to this article all over the place on Miami sites, with some Miamians saying it was exactly what their friends were saying about Gillum and Venezuela.
Fear is reality in the Trump era:
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article217956930.html
vdogg
(1,384 posts)Honestly, I'm disappointed that he gave up so quick. Abrams and Nelson never stopped fighting and Gillum just sort of rolled over. Not a good look. He needs to find his spine because there are much tougher battles ahead.
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)good sportsmanship that I believe Dems are way too full of. I guess it's upbringing.
Cha
(297,110 posts)about Andrew Gillium needing "to find his "spine". There's got to be at least one dissing our Democratic candidates.
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)I can't blame him at all as I can't blame State Rep. Kiah Morris of Vermont who couldn't get protection for her family after racially motivated death threats, vandalism at her home and her grounds, as well as multiple home invasions.
I don't want any more martyrs and am filled with gratitude for those who really tried and still trying. It's just heartbreaking that some dems cannot understand the spine it takes.
Cha
(297,110 posts)has more Courage than they'll ever know about.:candle
Cha
(297,110 posts)he withdrew his concession. No need to talk about Andrew Gillum's lack of "spine".
He has more courage than you'll ever know about.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)This is good news!
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)that ever corrected? I hope Beto had people on the ground checking out irregularities.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)You can't recount a machine vote unless that machine has a paper print out.
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Cha
(297,110 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)🤞🏾
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)LAS14
(13,781 posts)I wondered why Gillum was showing as Lost in the NYT website when he was less than half a percent behind. Then somewhere I saw that the trigger in Florida was 1/4 percent. Does anyone have solid info?
jcgoldie
(11,627 posts)1/4% is for a hand recount... 1/2% for a machine recount.
LAS14
(13,781 posts)... scheduled for a machine count. Unless there's a rounding issue.
LAS14
(13,781 posts)catbyte
(34,367 posts)Hekate
(90,629 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)Wasn't that fun?
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)That, to me, was the death knell for Gore.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)stuck in my mind.
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)Personally, I think he's the best thing going.
Cha
(297,110 posts)concession as facts changed on the ground.
Thank YOu, Andrew!
samnsara
(17,615 posts)...im so happy!!!!!
Wintryjade
(814 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Really makes me wonder if every vote is ever counted?!
True Blue American
(17,982 posts)At Republicans complaining about, Hords of Democratic Lawyers descending on Florida . after the hords that descended on Fla. in the 2000 election,including Republican Congressmen.
Remember how they stormed the BOE?
LAS14
(13,781 posts)... they've got Georgia as pink. But it hasn't happened. Is Gillum's switch not official?
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/06/us/elections/results-governor-elections.html
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)If, when all the vote are counted, he is ahead of DeSantis, what is he supposed to say "Give it to DeSantis because I conceded on incomplete information"?