Wait! A dozen Dems threaten to not support Dem votes if Pelosi is speaker??

[Roland99]

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WTF??

[ret5hd]

1. They be wantin' sumthin'.

[eleny]

2. .

[Kaleva]

3. 10 out of over 200. A disaster for Nancy!

She needs 218 to be Speaker but with the number of Dems in the House growing, that may not be hard for her to get, even if a dozen Dems defect.

[lapucelle]

4. I don't think that's accurate.

Ten Democratic incumbents or members-elect told POLITICO that they will vote against Nancy Pelosi for speaker on the House floor, exposing a serious problem for the California Democrat in her bid to reclaim the gavel.

That's not the same as "not supporting Dem votes".

[Blue_true]

11. That is how I understood the short news piece that was posted.

They did not appear to say that they would not support democratic legistlation during floor votes, it would be fucking suicide for them to take such a position.

Several have said a while ago that they would not vote for her as Speaker, that is ok, IMO.

[irresistable]

14. If not voting for her on the house floor elects a Republican speaker....

then it is the same.

12 members of the house should not be able to dictate who the speaker is.

[lordbateman]

15. Educate yourself before you post. (nt)

[irresistable]

41. my apologies

[obamanut2012]

22. hahahahhahah

wut

[irresistable]

28. why do you think it is a good idea for Democrats to vote against Pelosi on the house floor?

[Codeine]

35. Not enough facepalm emojis on Earth

for that post.

[irresistable]

37. anyone who thinks that people should withhold even one vote from Pelosi on the floor...

Make me literally facepalm....no emoji's required.

It is ridiculous.

[SaschaHM]

39. They'd have to actively vote for a Republican Speaker for us to get one.

If no one has a majority (not just a plurality), it just starts another round of voting.

[irresistable]

40. I had seen some elections where Speakers where elected with less that 50 percent....

I misinterpreted that.

It seems that it was due to non voting rather than voting present or for another person.

So it is a majority of votes rather than a majority of the total house that allowed for a sub 50% win.

[Roland99]

24. That's what I thought, too, but not so sure

[guillaumeb]

5. Is Pelosi the only one capable of being the Speaker?

Obviously not. While experience does count, at what point should experience yield to a newer generation?

[Demsrule86]

10. At this time she is the only one who can navigate Trumpland....

[guillaumeb]

12. Adam Schiff comes to mind. Jan Schakowsky is another.

I am not arguing that she is incapable, but she is not immortal.

[dsc]

19. we won this election in no small measure thanks to middle aged women

and you suggest we toss a middle aged woman for a younger, less qualified man. Just what do think our base's reaction to that would be?

[guillaumeb]

31. Jan Schakowsky is a very progressive women in her 60s.

And the base is more to the left than the leadership, in my view. And polling suggests the same.

[Demsrule86]

42. That may be true...but right now she is fine. And we need her.

[democratisphere]

6. WTF happened with one for ALL, and ALL for one?!

Be very THANKFUL for what we have and don't f' it up!

[bdamomma]

13. yea

for real, let them not muff this up. Let the woman do her job please.

[Hoyt]

7. Unfortunately, Democrats don't always vote in tandem like GOPers. And some House members are in

Districts where voting for something considered too liberal -- by white wingers -- is the kiss of death. We'll have to see how it goes.

On the other hand, I'd bet just about anyone else up for Speaker will have some opposition.

[Wintryjade]

20. True. But, it is really petty if the reason is not the vote per se, but because they hold the vote

hostage to get something they want.

[Me.]

8. The Usual Suspects Led By Ryan & Rice

They pose as much of a threat to Dems as the Cons who want Nancy Out.

Democratic Reps. Ed Perlmutter of Colorado, who organized the Wednesday night call, Kathleen Rice of New York, Seth Moulton of Massachusetts, Bill Foster of Illinois, Tim Ryan of Ohio, Filemon Vela of Texas, Kurt Schrader of Oregon and Rep. Conor Lamb of Pennsylvania

[UniteFightBack]

25. I'll have to give Kathy a call about this. nt

[GeorgeGist]

9. I wish they'd fuck with Trump ...

and make Hillary Speaker.

[Jersey Devil]

17. First off, the numbers are not accurate

Current estimates are that we will have 235-238 seats, which means she could lose 17-20 members and still have the votes for a majority, either as speaker or on the floor.

[Me.]

27. Doesn't A Majority Of The Dem Votes Mean A Majority

Couldn't she lose more than 17-20 members? And who thinks they could get that majority besides her?

[Jersey Devil]

30. I believe the entire House votes for speaker, not just the majority party

I could be wrong, but that has always been my impression.

[Me.]

32. I Bet You're Right

[Wintryjade]

18. So, they are going to shoot themselves in the foot if they do not get their way, stabbing the

Democratic base in the back having worked our ass off to get the House? Not right.

[Me.]

21. Our Very Own Freedom Causcus

[Wintryjade]

26. Like we are not fighting an uphill battle enough. We have to deal with tantrums now. And coddling.

I am so done with coddling for our Democratic vote.

[UniteFightBack]

23. Nancy will figure it all out. nt

[lpbk2713]

29. They're not really Dems then.

If they are that easy to mutiny then they can't be relied
on to have any loyalty to anyone or anything else.

[Jake Stern]

33. Those of us who were dismayed at the stances of Joe Manchin/Heidi Heitkamp

were told that those votes were a necessary evil because of the make up of their constituencies.

The curious thing is many of those same folks are now talking smack about people not voting for Nancy Pelosi despite many of them coming from purple/red districts where the name Nancy Pelosi is an epithet

[SaschaHM]

34. I support her, but if she doesn't have the votes then....

Speakers are elected by majority rule. As such, unless some Dems cross over and vote for a Republican, there are just going to be multiple ballots until a majority is reach.

And that's excluding the fact that the Speaker-designate will be chosen prior to the start of a new congress (probably in Dec.). I think she will hang on for two years at least, but if she can't get the votes(and as a future speaker she should have a lot of leverage to persuade the caucus) then I really can't say she deserves to be speaker. I feel terrible writing that, but we need someone who can get the party to unite behind them and take the fight to Trump. I think Pelosi can do the latter, but I think others can do the latter as well. I'm not sure if she can do the former.

[workinclasszero]

36. Are these 10 turncoats named the Freedom Caucus?

[Johnny2X2X]

38. People made campaign promises.

Some of these Dems has to promise not to support her to her elected in tight districts. They should keep their promises.