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muntrv

(14,505 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:46 PM Nov 2018

On "All In With Chris Hayes" a guest said that if Whitaker is AG, any defendant

being tried in Federal court could argue that the Justice Dept has no standing to prosecute because Attorney General is illegitimate. Any legal experts on DU agree?

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On "All In With Chris Hayes" a guest said that if Whitaker is AG, any defendant (Original Post) muntrv Nov 2018 OP
That was Neil Katyal, the guy who wrote the independent counsel rules. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #1
He said that because Whitaker has not been confirmed by the Senate yet, he is not legitimate. muntrv Nov 2018 #3
Not the JUSTICE DEPARTMENT has no standing to prosecute, but elleng Nov 2018 #2
That's one of those "nice in theory, ignored in reality" kinds of arguments Azathoth Nov 2018 #4

elleng

(130,669 posts)
2. Not the JUSTICE DEPARTMENT has no standing to prosecute, but
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:50 PM
Nov 2018

the Acting A/G has no standing/is illegitimate. Neil Katyal, the guest, is right.

Azathoth

(4,606 posts)
4. That's one of those "nice in theory, ignored in reality" kinds of arguments
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:23 PM
Nov 2018

Legally and constitutionally, of course, the DOJ derives its power from the President, who in turn delegates some of his power to the Attorney General. Government agencies might be created by law, but they are essentially just the staff of the cabinet secretaries who run them. The power they wield is the power of their boss. An illegitimate AG means the source of the DOJ's authority and power is illegitimate, sort of like a secretary making purchase orders at the behest of a impostor "boss" who was never hired by the company. In theory.

In practice, government agencies are autonomous bureaucracies and require very little input from El Jefe to do their day-to-day business. I personally doubt a court would even consider a challenge to any DOJ business that the AG wasn't directly involved in. And even then, since the power of the AG really resides with the President, courts might just reason that as long as the President signs off on the DOJ's actions, they are by definition legitimate.

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